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    Default Chess masters personality according to website

    http://www.chesspersonality.com/type/prodigy


    ***There are 4 dichotomies...

    Attacking / positional --> Irrational / rational ?

    Aggressive / solid --> Extravert / introvert ?

    Intuitive / calculating --> Intuition / sensing ?

    Emotional / Calm --> Ethical / logical ?

    ***There are 16 types...

    Prodigy
    Professional
    Romantic
    Surgeon
    Technician
    Anaconda
    Assassin
    Barbarian
    Champion
    Escape artist
    Genius
    Grinder
    Mad scientist
    Magician
    Mastermind
    Natural
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    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    I am attacking / aggressive / intuitive / calm. ENTP ???
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    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
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    Lol

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    There goes your hypothesis: I got Attacking, Solid, Calculating, Calm.

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    He was described as having a "psychological" style of play, which confused his opponents. But in fact he was simply ahead of them in his understanding of the dynamics of chess. Lasker understood how to create counterplay, how to change the theater of battle when one part of the board was weak, and how to transform advantages. His defensive and endgame technique were the key to his great results.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    Assassins are all about controlled aggression. They tend to play sharp openings (especially 1.e4 as white) and look to attack the opponent's King. But their attacks are not wild or careless - everything is still governed by the objective demands of the position and exact calculation. Assassins tend to play "against the pieces" rather than "against the opponent". They won't alter their own play to try to take advantage of the opponent's psychology.
    Robert J Fischer is an Assassin

    Bobby Fischer (1943-2008), the eleventh World Chess Champion, was one deadly Assassin. One of the most dominant players of all time, the American became a grandmaster at the age of only fifteen and eventually took the world championship in a 1972 match with Boris Spassky. Fischer's perfect composure, along with accurate calculation and great will to win, caused his opponents to crumble. Fischer's opening repertoire was very limited, but also very sharp and very well prepared. All in all, Bobby Fischer was a chess machine long before actual chess engines could play at anywhere near that level.



    The same as Aylen but with more pronounced attacking side.


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    I wish I knew more people's types so I could hypothesise about what the type-relatedness is here.

    Also, apologies for the very small photo. If you click on it it grows to be a regular size.
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    Ha if I base it on slater's definitions, I am ESTp.



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    Assassin

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    That Lasker dude sounds ILI.

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    mastermind! (:

    n i'd rather dichotomize as: attacking/positional --- extro/intro (openings/attacks/assertion)
    aggressive/solid --- irrational/rational (predictability/consistency of moves, "attacking is the right way, risk avoidant")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contra View Post
    That Lasker dude sounds ILI.
    If that is true my "E" turns to "L" when I play chess. I was taught to play by an ILI.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss BabyDoll View Post
    mastermind! (:

    n i'd rather dichotomize as: attacking/positional --- extro/intro (openings/attacks/assertion)
    aggressive/solid --- irrational/rational (predictability/consistency of moves, "attacking is the right way, risk avoidant")
    Then you tested ILI


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    slightly more positional
    slightly more solid
    slightly more calculating
    very calm

    The Professional. Considering I was in the middle for 75% of the dichotomies, I can't say this means much to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss BabyDoll View Post
    mastermind! (:

    n i'd rather dichotomize as: attacking/positional --- extro/intro (openings/attacks/assertion)
    aggressive/solid --- irrational/rational (predictability/consistency of moves, "attacking is the right way, risk avoidant")
    mmm.. yes, I think you are right

    attacking / positional.....extrovert / introvert

    aggressive / solid....irrational / rational

    intuitive / calculating.....intuition / sensing

    calm / emotional....logics / ethics
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Vladimir Kramnik looks LII or ILI...and he is, according to this site, intuitive, calm, positional and solid ("LII" acording to my approach)
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    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Fischer: attacking, aggressive, calculating and calm "SLE" according to my approach.

    I think he was very Fi polr, non-politically correct, etc
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    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Kasparov: attacking, solid, calculating, emotional (ESE according to my approach).
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    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
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    Capablanca: positional, solid, intuitive, emotional ("EII")
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    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Karpov: positional, aggressive, intuitive, calm ("ILI")
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Anand: attacking, solid, intuitive, calm ("LIE")
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    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    If anything, I guess your personality has an influence on your way of playing chess. The pseudo-typings I have done may be right after all
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    Socionics: ENTp
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    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Kasparov: attacking, solid, calculating, emotional (ESE according to my approach).
    I think Kasparov is LSE.

    His conversation with Peter Thiel (ILI) reminds me of a lot of the conversations I've had with LSEs. Plus it just kind of looks like supervision.

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    I’m a Technician. I don’t take like taking many outright risks and I would prefer to build strong defense.

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    I got surgeon. Sounds right.

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    Kasparov as LSE I can totally see that. He was the first world champion to lose against a computer. Smh and my “chess type” beat him

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    I think Kasparov is an LIE.

    do you have to have a certain elo to do the personality test? it's funny how I never really think about any of these questions while playing. I just do stuff that feels natural to me. I don't know any opening moves or names, feels like too much of a time investment. made an account on chess.com some weeks ago and my elo was around 1400 and a bit higher for bullet, but overall I just play and rarely think about offering a draw in certain positions for example. I prefer to watch chess instead of playing it.

    finished it now and got Alexander Alekhine. never heard of him suprisingly.
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    Alekhine is supposedly one of the aggressive player professionally but also versatile. Probably C subtype.

    And now that I think about chess game theory and subtype, I think you’re initially right about Magnus being C. Originally, he was aggressive but then switched it up and wanted to be unpredictable so he focuses on an unpredictable opening as a way of making it harder for his opponents to figure out his moves. His strength is in middlegame and that’s the area with the least theory, as in it’s essentially uncharted territory. Magnus even said he loves middlegame and that’s his favorite part. Opening theory changes a lot, but endgame is really consistent and don’t really change. For someone with a style that’s more focused on endgame (like me), I would think that correlates to N sub. But for Magnus who loves being all “unpredictable” in opening where it’s technically the most unpredictable part of the game and thus it leads to uncharted middlegame which makes it really hard to analyze moves during this phase (or at least I think so), this shows he heavily favors Ne + Se.
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    oh yeah the middle game is by far the most interesting aspect of the game to me because it leads to a lot of possibilities. I also prefer to just do exercises on lichess instead of playing games

    https://lichess.org/training
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    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

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    That’s funny because I like opening and endgame but middlegame is not interesting to me. I think it’s because this is an area where I can’t calculate the probabilities and it irks me. I’m not exacting but I don’t like it when I’m not at least being able to ballpark and eliminate possibilities. I want to get an idea of what I’m working with and middlegame is too changeable. I legit don’t like any games where the mechanics changes. Chess is cool but I mainly like the theory behind the play.

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    Bobby Fischer - LSI, probably Creative subtype as there is a little more Extroverted Sensation coming from him rather than a Magnus Carlsen. Not surprisingly, L (Ti) types seem to gravitate towards chess. A game of sequential movements carried out in reality. Lots of systemizing. Maybe T (Ni) as their Starting function helps out a bit too.

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