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    [Today 11:30 PM] [PM to MegaSpongeUSA] Reficulris
    : CD = This leads to this leads to this leads to this (-------------------------------->-------------------------->---------------------------0 )

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    : HP from this side it's this, from this side it's that, from yet another side it's those or it's not theirs. ( A, a-, 4, Aupsidedown)

    [Today 11:30 PM] [PM to MegaSpongeUSA] Reficulris
    : DA is If i clash This and That it will become a That (A and B are in opposition, but that opposition leads to C)

    [Today 11:31 PM] [PM to MegaSpongeUSA] Reficulris
    : VS is ehhh let's throw everything in a hat, shuffle it a bit and see what stays alife (can't do this...)
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    CD - Presuppose something + Something happens = Then you get this
    VS - Remember a million things not related to each other - forget all the connections to their context + rearrange connections = A smart person who can't remember seemingly obvious details made explicitly clear.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If itís a disease, itís nobodyís fault. Yay empiricism.

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    More simplifications please. Want to get into cog styles but too lazy.

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    Mind you, my simplifications are in no way authoritative and probably wrong, here to create discussion not to educate!

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    [Today 04:47 PM] lungs: vs is like sweeping up all the shit on the floor and then making a dusty lil sculpture out of it
    [Today 04:48 PM] Reficulris: lungs: can you put that quote about VS in my cognition styles simplified thread?
    [Today 04:49 PM] lungs: ummm... i could but i'm just talking shit, really...


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    @miss BabyDoll
    ooooh the Goddess of explanation.... please simplify it.

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    Today 05:51 PM woofwoofl: CD and DA are like a chain, HP and VS are like a pool
    Today 05:51 PM woofwoofl: the CD chain is straight and goes from one place to another, but if one link breaks, the chain falters
    Today 05:52 PM woofwoofl: DA would be more like a flow-chart; anything that would make breakage occur would just send it into one of the backdoors installed in the flowchart
    Today 05:54 PM woofwoofl: the pool of HPs waters would be forever clarifying and revealing more and more discrete shapes, the VS pool would all be water, it's the movement that would change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Persephone View Post
    @miss BabyDoll
    ooooh the Goddess of explanation.... please simplify it.
    pers i will- we need to revise chat logs n i need to write the cog styles up in short first (:

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    I've often referred to VS as having a reset button. They seem sort of like a rubber band. They'll only stretch out of their psychological/beliefs comfort zone just so far and then they'll snap back into it. The next time they talk it'll be as if the previous conver never happened.

    I think it might have to do with only being able to handle a certain level of chaos before needing to restore 'order' again. And part of human nature is to stick with what's familiar and comfortable.


    Edited to add: i forgot to mention that sometimes, down the road, they will show that somehow they've incorporated the new info, but they'll treat it as if it's something they've always thought/believed, and will have forgotten the times when they rejected it, or snapped back to a previous comfort zone.
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    HP - If I hold it like this, its like this. And if you hold it like that, its like that. So basically, its all that shit. Examine it yourself, you'll see.
    DA - its not. And it is. Its both. But which is it? Ill just choose whats preferable when I need it.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If itís a disease, itís nobodyís fault. Yay empiricism.

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    I think DA is better than VS with contradictions. They can live with the possibility of opposites and make that make sense. VS gets to the same contradiction and because context and details get lost, they mesh the contradiction until its coherent and subjectively not so contradictory any more. This is an example of how Negativism makes and observes boundaries, while synthesis looks to transmute or eradicate them. Analysis v. Synthesis on conceptual boundaries.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If itís a disease, itís nobodyís fault. Yay empiricism.

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