Typing bandwagon

[Aylen]

I am just giving some tentative impressions for the most part. I can get a bit set in my perceptions unless something has drastically changed them. I will update if I need to. I am not doing it in any order.

@mercutio

SLE-Se 458 (not sure of the order) sx/sp/sx confirmed but not final. I am still open to 468.

I think this is my first typing in this thread and maybe the last, especially if I'm wrong. Huh, I thought I could do this without second guessing or posting a disclaimer. Guess not.

Edit: 8w7 first

@Ollyx2OxenFree - IEI - so/sx

@Persephone - IEI-Ni sp/sx

@InvisibleJim - ILI sp first

@darya - EIE-Ni sx/so *updated*

@Pookie - IEI-Ni so/sx

@Elina - IEE (still open to change this one and recent chatbox conversations has me thinking about it more)

@Spider - Beta, possibly EIE. sx/sp [she left us! ]

@Words - SLE-Ti (stop it! ) sx/sp

R1 - SLE-Ti sx/sp but maybe sx/so (lots of reflection on this one) meh maybe

Edit::
@Miss S - IEI-Ni (yes I want to steal her from gamma)

@mfckr - LIE-Ni sx first (I want to say there is a 5 in your tritype too but unsure)

Edit2:
@lifer/fighter/lucy - LII the analyist and tritype the mentor 125 and sp/so <-- it just kind of hit me today and pretty much confirmed for me by chatbox lately.

Transkar - SEE

Edit3: OntheRox - ESI 6w5 sp/sx or sp/so

Edit4: @strrrng obvious, even without one on one interaction, IEI-Ni

Edit5: I like to see how my impressions of type play out over time. My newest addition are:

@Jimmers ILI (now I am looking for instincts and tritype impressions) I am kind of proud of this one so I am hoping it doesn't change.

@McBain EIE sx/so (I think this was my first impression of you. If not it was IEI, which might have been first, because poetry)

Edit6: Kill4me - LSE 684 so/sp

Maritsa EII sp/sx 269

Subteigh EII sp/so 954

[darya]

I actually agree precisely on all your Beta and NF typings Spider is Beta NF imo.

[Olly From Wally World]

Every IEI gets a subtype except lil ol' Olly.

Hmmm, so just post our type impressions for others? I may try to get into this, I usually don't care too much to do so or want to know the person better in order to type them. With growing confidence typing, I may contribute. Think there are threads on this already, too.

[Aylen]

Every IEI gets a subtype except lil ol' Olly.

Hmmm, so just post our type impressions for others? I may try to get into this, I usually don't care too much to do so or want to know the person better in order to type them. With growing confidence typing, I may contribute. Think there are threads on this already, too.

But, but, this is my thread! I am trying to maintain it's purity. hahah You get no subtype the same way I get no subtype. I think there is a balance most of the time but yes we both tend to lean in the Ni direction when it counts.

And yes, you may post your impressions in my thread. I am not a dictator.

Edit: For the record, I am only typing people I have had some kind of one on one interaction with.

[darya]

Every IEI gets a subtype except lil ol' Olly.

Hmmm, so just post our type impressions for others? I may try to get into this, I usually don't care too much to do so or want to know the person better in order to type them. With growing confidence typing, I may contribute. Think there are threads on this already, too.

My impression of both you and @Aylen leans towards Ni subtype after talking to you, but not by much. And yes, I could totally be wrong

[Olly From Wally World]

My impression of both you and @Aylen leans towards Ni subtype after talking to you, but not by much. And yes, I could totally be wrong

How do you differentiate Ni and Fe subtype? Do you use contact/inert, DCNH, accepting/producing or what?

[darya]

How do you differentiate Ni and Fe subtype? Do you use contact/inert, DCNH, accepting/producing or what?

DCNH. But I don't care that much about subtypes, so I prefer to just use the two main ones. I'm sure you've studied things better than me and I obviously don't know you in depth, so if you self-type D-IEI (I've just noticed that btw ), I have absolutely nothing against it. It was just an impression from our conversation, where you as far as I noticed displayed very strong Ti and not that much Fe (you sounded fairly logical, like an IEI/ILI hybrid hehe). You striked me as something pretty much in the middle, that's why I understand why Aylen didn't give you a subtype

[Olly From Wally World]

DCNH. But I don't care that much about subtypes, so I prefer to just use the two main ones. I'm sure you've studied things better than me and I obviously don't know you in depth, so if you self-type D-IEI (I've just noticed that btw ), I have absolutely nothing against it. It was just an impression from our conversation, where you as far as I noticed displayed very strong Ti and not that much Fe (you sounded fairly logical, like an IEI/ILI hybrid hehe). You striked me as something pretty much in the middle, that's why I understand why Aylen didn't give you a subtype

Oh, it's fine. Can somewhat see what you mean. I can somewhat remember the only brief group call we had, right before your vacation. Fairly casual convo (we spoke a bit about fashion), I can be a lot more logical-seeming if we are talking about socionics or enneagram. got super into them when I was unemployed. Male feelers are more logically conditioned while feeling for women is encouraged so feeling men may not seem as feely. Same with logical women seeming a bit more feely. That said, I don't think I'm as logically inclined in everyday life at all but if we are talking typology, I can get Ti-like. Takes me hours upon hours to respond to a simple thread though, you don't even know, lol. It's not a big natural grasp of mine. I was read as and fit Sage with Priest influence though, the communicating/information giving type (lol you may not be into that stuff but Aylen is).


Didn't know you were into DCNH. Seems only a few are into it. There's dichotomies in it too. Distance/contact, initial/terminating and connecting/ignoring. Distant introverts are the more clear introverts which I don't think I fit as much to myself or others. In comparison to myself, Aylen is more clearly distant (overwhelmed socially more easily), more scattered/disorganized seeming (no offense, Aylen!) and initiating in an irrational way and likely connecting which is dynamic (although harder to tell with this dichotomy for me). Harmonizing suits her well, IMO, dichotomies and description add up so Ni subtype for her. I fit contact better and am stronger in rationality than her (more follow-through) yet still irrational. Adds up to D which I relate to best.


What are you sitting at now, type and subtype-wise?

[Radio]

Every IEI gets a subtype except lil ol' Olly.

if that's you in your avatar, then you look Si-SEI.

[Aylen]

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I love it when you supervise me. Heh I was going to add you to the first wave but I was not sure if you would want to be. Now you have made yourself a target!

[Aylen]

Didn't know you were into DCNH. Seems only a few are into it. There's dichotomies in it too. Distance/contact, initial/terminating and connecting/ignoring. Distant introverts are the more clear introverts which I don't think I fit as much to myself or others. In comparison to myself, Aylen is more clearly distant (overwhelmed socially more easily), more scattered/disorganized seeming (no offense, Aylen!) and initiating in an irrational way and likely connecting which is dynamic (although harder to tell with this dichotomy for me). Harmonizing suits her well, IMO, dichotomies and description add up so Ni subtype for her. I fit contact better and am stronger in rationality than her (more follow-through) yet still irrational. Adds up to D which I relate to best.

I am deeply wounded. Get out of my thread you beta wannabe alpha dog!

If you watch Olly on webcam, and talk to him, you can see he fits IEI, he is so beta. It feels like an adventure when we talk, while we try to pull Se out of thin air to motivate each other. It would probably look chaotic to some when we jump from subject to subject but usually get back around to finishing up what we started on. He questions me sometimes because he knows I was off in my head and not listening and we keep trying to talk at the same time so we often end up interrupting each other and I have gone off on tangents, probably.

Um, I am clearly more rational than you!

[Aylen]

Yeah, I tritype 854.

Mmhmm, that makes sense and the 5 has always felt pretty strong to me.

[Amber]

I am just giving some tentative impressions for the most part. I can get a bit set in my perceptions unless something has drastically changed them. I will update if I need to. I am not doing it in any order.


@Ollyx2OxenFree - IEI - so/sx

@Persephone - IEI-Ni sp/sx

@InvisibleJim - ILI sp first

@darya - IEI-Fe sx-so

@Pookie - IEI-Ni (sp/so maybe)

@Elina - IEE sp/so (still open to change this one)

@Spider - Beta, possibly EIE. sx/sp

@Words - SLE-Ti (stop it! )

R1 - SLE-Ti sx/sp but maybe sx/so (lots of reflection on this one)

Edit::
@Miss S - IEI-Ni (yes I want to steal her from gamma)

@mfckr - LIE-Ni sx first (I want to say there is a 5 in your tritype too but unsure)

[Aylen]

Unless I have a one on one interaction with it, I will not attempt to type it. It looks a bit social first though.

[darya]

Male feelers are more logically conditioned while feeling for women is encouraged so feeling men may not seem as feely. Same with logical women seeming a bit more feely. That said, I don't think I'm as logically inclined in everyday life at all but if we are talking typology, I can get Ti-like. Takes me hours upon hours to respond to a simple thread though, you don't even know, lol. It's not a big natural grasp of mine.

Gender differences was the first thing I thought of too, just didn't brought them up before You know, now I was thinking about how you interact in group (written) chats, and it's true, you seem IEI-Fe and also so/sx there. About the logic thing, I never doubted your IEI-ness (or Beta for that matter)

What are you sitting at now, type and subtype-wise?

My self-typing is the same as yours, it just makes the most sense when it comes to intertype relations and Reinin. But I'm not completely sure, so I'm leaving things open

[IBTL]

if that's you in your avatar, then you look Si-SEI.

Good call indeed! I completely agree.

His avatar specifically reminds me of M.I.A., and she's Si-SLI.

[Aylen]

Good call indeed! I completely agree.

His avatar specifically reminds me of M.I.A., and she's Si-SLI.

Do you completely agree that his avatar looks SEI or that his avatar looks SLI or that he has some form of Si?

[IBTL]

Do you completely agree that his avatar looks SEI or that his avatar looks SLI or that he has some form of Si?

I completely agree that his avatar looks Si-SEI.


Do you want the videos? The first video has much more Si porn (like food porn) than the second video.

[Olly From Wally World]

if that's you in your avatar, then you look Si-SEI.

That is me. No comment on the VI though. I have gotten many different VI impressions, even gamma SF. I'm sure of my type though.

Good call indeed! I completely agree.


His avatar specifically reminds me of M.I.A., and she's Si-SLI.

Lol, @point and maybe someone else think M.I.A is SLE. They played her in TC like last week. Idk what she is but her music is okay.

[darya]

Lol, @point and maybe someone else think M.I.A is SLE. They played her in TC like last week. Idk what she is but her music is okay.

I think M.I.A. is clearly Beta.

[Olduvai]

I think M.I.A. is clearly Beta.

indeed, I'd say she's SLE

[darya]

indeed, I'd say she's SLE

I just went to watch her interviews and read her lyrics, and yes, definitely SLE Love her.

[IBTL]

I would like to know why so many people type others on this forum as IEI or SLE, when in reality, very few people here are of either type. It's like, if you're a sensor then you're SLE and if you're a feeler then you're IEI.

Another way of looking at this bias is comparing it to using two colors out of the crayon box to fill in a color by number drawing. Why bother using 16 crayons at all if you never intend to use anything but say yellow and blue. Bleh!

[darya]

I would like to know why so many people type others on this forum as IEI or SLE, when in reality, very few people here are of either type. It's like, if you're a sensor then you're SLE and if you're a feeler then you're IEI.

Another way of looking at this bias is comparing it to using two colors out of the crayon box to fill in a color by number drawing. Why bother using 16 crayons at all if you never intend to use anything but say yellow and blue. Bleh!

First of all, your statement is false and your analogy is idiotic and irrelevant. Second of all, awww do you wanna be the only blue crayon in the box ? Guess what: you're not a special snowflake. So just because the quota of yellow crayons for the day was reached, you decided to type M.I.A. as SLI? Makes sense.

And did it ever cross your mind that the members of this (obscure to say the least) forum are not the representative sample of general population? Of course not.

[Olly From Wally World]

I would like to know why so many people type others on this forum as IEI or SLE, when in reality, very few people here are of either type. It's like, if you're a sensor then you're SLE and if you're a feeler then you're IEI.

Another way of looking at this bias is comparing it to using two colors out of the crayon box to fill in a color by number drawing. Why bother using 16 crayons at all if you never intend to use anything but say yellow and blue. Bleh!

What makes you say that there are very few IEIs and SLEs in reality?

[chemical]

I haven't seen a giant number of SLE, it seems the more often typed thing is IEI.
There's no reason to presume the forum demographics are representative of the human population at large.

I guess the only thing I'm not such a fan of is that introverted intuition is introverted, not just intuition of time. If people want to simply think of it as intuition of time, use Gulenko notation and cal it "T" rather than calling it Ni. The moment someone calls it Ni, it should visibly demonstrate what intuition in the introverted form is.

I've got this strange theory that it's more OK just thinking of Ni as mostly in terms of "T" in the case of Ni-Fe with Fe-subtype, since that type is relatively ambiverted in the ego. Not okay with Ni-subtype. Personally I don't think all types (with subtype included, since personally I think you might as well look at things in terms of 32-64 types with the 16 as starting point) are really equally distributed in the populace at large.
And I especially think the Ni-subtypes of IEI and ILI are stranger creatures than might appear at first sight.

[IBTL]

[Aylen]

Hahah, actually the song seems so delta and sung by a gamma? I think the beta tool of choice could be an axe.

WTF, now I am typing tools.

[Aylen]

I haven't seen a giant number of SLE, it seems the more often typed thing is IEI.
There's no reason to presume the forum demographics are representative of the human population at large.

I guess the only thing I'm not such a fan of is that introverted intuition is introverted, not just intuition of time. If people want to simply think of it as intuition of time, use Gulenko notation and cal it "T" rather than calling it Ni. The moment someone calls it Ni, it should visibly demonstrate what intuition in the introverted form is.

I've got this strange theory that it's more OK just thinking of Ni as mostly in terms of "T" in the case of Ni-Fe with Fe-subtype, since that type is relatively ambiverted in the ego. Not okay with Ni-subtype. Personally I don't think all types (with subtype included, since personally I think you might as well look at things in terms of 32-64 types with the 16 as starting point) are really equally distributed in the populace at large.
And I especially think the Ni-subtypes of IEI and ILI are stranger creatures than might appear at first sight.

It takes me a little while to get what you are saying but I guess the feeling is there and then it clicks. Ni is so much more than intuition of time but I have not been able to explain it in a way that makes sense except to a few who see it similar to me. Time is an aspect (this is not the word I want to use but I am using it as a placeholder for now) of Ni but not what I experience Ni to be.

[chemical]

Basically I think the difficulty of explaining what Ni really is becomes lessened by turning it into purely time vs static.
The real deal with this I think is for intuition to tend towards a static way of seeing things is to have a definite object stimulating one's attention and the intuitions being (roughly) a direct product of that stimulation. With introverted intuition, much of it can go on independent of objective effects. They intuitively perceive the subjective situation itself, meaning not perceiving it in terms of what the exact subjective situation is, and how it is a product of certain stimulation, but rather implicitly, that is through and intuitive grasp of the possible ways of seeing the subjective situation.

In an interesting way, this actually makes some of the true Ni subtypes less in touch with the exact nature of how the subjective situation relates to them, because again they aren't seeing it in terms of what it exactly is, rather from the background of it. To have a sense of "I" one tends to have to focus on consciousness (because our sense of "I" essentially is identified with consciousness). Yet intuition suppresses what is stimulated by activity of a conscious origin, for one cannot have a sense of the implicit experience of things without foregoing this to an extent. By definition basically, that which is explicit knowledge must be knowledge whose source is an identifiable factor of consciousness.

[IBTL]

Retypes SLE

What did you want me to do? Get defensive? It definitely was my first reaction, but then somehow I didn't want it. Maybe one day I'll be able to use comedy instead of conflict in order to invoke a more receptive response when doling out criticism, but then perhaps throwing fireballs is more efficient. We shall see as "the work of deep-seated, sustainable change remains the hardest work there is." - Bill Taylor

I think the beta tool of choice could be an axe.


WTF, now I am typing tools.

The tool of a beta would be merciless indeed...

[Mega]

Basically I think the difficulty of explaining what Ni really is becomes lessened by turning it into purely time vs static.
The real deal with this I think is for intuition to tend towards a static way of seeing things is to have a definite object stimulating one's attention and the intuitions being (roughly) a direct product of that stimulation. With introverted intuition, much of it can go on independent of objective effects. They intuitively perceive the subjective situation itself, meaning not perceiving it in terms of what the exact subjective situation is, and how it is a product of certain stimulation, but rather implicitly, that is through and intuitive grasp of the possible ways of seeing the subjective situation.

In an interesting way, this actually makes some of the true Ni subtypes less in touch with the exact nature of how the subjective situation relates to them, because again they aren't seeing it in terms of what it exactly is, rather from the background of it. To have a sense of "I" one tends to have to focus on consciousness (because our sense of "I" essentially is identified with consciousness). Yet intuition suppresses what is stimulated by activity of a conscious origin, for one cannot have a sense of the implicit experience of things without foregoing this to an extent. By definition basically, that which is explicit knowledge must be knowledge whose source is an identifiable factor of consciousness.

I don't get what you are saying.
I can't see the way you are describing to be useful to me to make Ni a knowledge. I understand what you think Ni is. I don't understand what you are trying to convey. Focusing on one stimulation/experience to understand Ni better, yes. Explaning what is Ni, yes. Saying that Ni is conscious and that knowledge is a source of something identifiable in the counsciousness, therefore we understand Ni, no.

[Aylen]

What did you want me to do? Get defensive? It definitely was my first reaction, but then somehow I didn't want it. Maybe one day I'll be able to use comedy instead of conflict in order to invoke a more receptive response when doling out criticism, but then perhaps throwing fireballs is more efficient. We shall see as "the work of deep-seated, sustainable change remains the hardest work there is." - Bill Taylor

The tool of a beta would be merciless indeed...

I'd rather...

[Amber]

addendum : Warrior Princess / Lucy Lawless : immensely annoying type, Sx last (so/sp probably), E 1, no idea of Sociotype - behaves more like a psychotic IEI than a LII, but LSI is also an option

[Creepy-theticalanti]

*updated*

Wtf Aylen. Why didn't you include me. Am I not on your mind?

Decent list though.

[strangeling]

addendum : Warrior Princess / Lucy Lawless : immensely annoying type, Sx last (so/sp probably), E 1, no idea of Sociotype - behaves more like a psychotic IEI than a LII, but LSI is also an option

[Aylen]

Wtf Aylen. Why didn't you include me. Am I not on your mind?

Decent list though.

Thank you.

Well, I had you as my confllctor but didn't want to post it because there was no conflict I am not sure about you though. hahah

*updated*

[Persephone]

I wish I could like it again...
How are you?

[Aylen]

I wish I could like it again...
How are you?

Past few days pretty happy.

Before that, emotional rollercoaster.

The essence of your goddess was missed in your absence.

How are you?

[Persephone]

Past few days pretty happy.

Before that, emotional rollercoaster.

The essence of your goddess was missed in your absence.

How are you?

Nothing to say besides I love you.