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    As an IEI, I find that we tend to express our Ni through feelings and emotion. We get certain "gut" feelings about things that coexist with future or past events, but we can't really express, pinpoint or explain why we feel them. My own mother used to think that I had psychic abilities as a child because of this (pls don't laugh). We intuitively know things and generally have good gut feelings about how they will play out, but we just really suck at explaining why or how we know this information, whereas I believe types like ILI are able to go into far greater logical detail about expressing their Ni, and this is the main difference in how Te and Fe expresses Ni.

    I've come across a few songs that kind of do a good job of illustrating this. Songs are good for this, because there is usually a lot of raw emotion behind an IEI's Ni

    I think Sally's character from Nightmare Before Christmas is a clear cut IEI 4 sp/sx, and though she's fictional, I found that her character and this song in particular was good for showing an IEI's use of Ni -




    I want to post a few songs written by famous IEI's but it's kind of difficult to explain why they express the IEI mindset. I find that when IEI musicians write lyrics, they don't really know where it's coming from. To them it feels like gibberish coming from the subconscious, yet the words all seems to come together so abstractly and elegantly well put together when played with the music. Examples of this mental thought process is evident in Kurt Cobain and Thom Yorke. Both write well composed abstract lyrics that seem deeply meaningful, yet they both have said that they don't really put a lot of mental thought in where they come from or what they mean, and that they go with what feels and sounds best. The words are strictly from the subconscious.

    This would happen to myself when I used to do art. I would start on a picture or painting, get deep into the process of it, yet when people would ask about the meaning behind what I had created once it was finished, I couldn't really give an explanation. I just went to the back of my mind, pulled out random shit and put it on paper; though, the random shit was filtered through what I was feeling at the time. My art was simply flowing abstract nothingness that conveyed my emotions that I couldn't back with thought.
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    I don't know about mindset, but this is what IEI often looks like for me (especially E4)



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    The Pool Master expresses the mindset of an IEI






    What kind of NF is ville valo (although i've seen him typed ESI somewhere)? is mige amour SEI?
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    "Love is anterior to life, posterior to death, initial of creation, and the exponent of breath."


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    I have crafted a whole IEI playlist. I'm sharing this song now - I don't exactly know why, but it's just as weird as my mind:

    Love is like an energy, rushing in, rushing inside of me...

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    "The IEI has all the best tunes"
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    I really feel Ni/Se when I hear this.



    "This will never end because I want more, more give me more, give me more"

    "After the night, when I wake up, I'll see what tomorrow brings"

    "If I had a heart I could love you, If I had a voice I would sing."
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    This is how I envision the mindset of an IEI looks like in relation to a musical piece. The world is a colourful tapestry to Ni. If I am wrong: sue me.



    0:00
    Awakening as a child. Seeing the world with wonder. Seeing my friends with interest. My mind opening to the world, piece by piece. Games, childhood, mystery, life’s mystery. Fears, pains, worries, hopes, dream, laughter, shyness. That special friend. Sharing. A new beginning. The first inkling of reality. Disillusionments.

    3:30
    The sweet goodbyes. From a moment, from each other, from people over the years.

    4:40
    The path I must choose. Learning that I must choose it again and again, over and over. Maybe its not always what I envisioned, this is where I stand non the less.

    5:51
    Embarking on the journey. Moving away, stepping into an adventure, even just a new road, new sites, (6:34) remember what I left behind, and those I left behind.


    7:00
    This is when the mission starts. The job interview; the meeting; the task at hand, all are missions to an IEI. I am ready the time is now. I have all that I need. Everything is right. Now I am on the journey.

    7:56
    The battle. The effort. The fallbacks, the suffering I must endure. The striving. The disappointment. The Reality. The schedule. The grind. The commute. The challenge. The uphill. The fear. The push –through. The completion.

    9:43
    The goal, the dream, the years are seen now from a different vantage point. Did things work? Was it worth it? Reflection. Yes, AND no. There’s the voice again, showing me what I have learned. Older now. The melody that was the dream of youth, spent, spread thin like butter on toast. BUT, still dreaming. Still holding that voice inside me that says, everything is will be possible. The world is still magic. And I am stronger now, more sure of myself. Doubts, worries still harbor in my mind: I know that it can be faced. There is much pain in the world, in my life as well. Meeting a friend, whom you can share this private self too. The connections from here to now.

    12:20
    Sublime suffering. BUT, all things pass. All grief is left for tomorrow. Even though the footprints are tracks in my mind. Humanity has committed all acts imaginable, people commit in their error.

    14:36
    Facing my own failures.

    14:45
    After the storm. All voices, vulnerable, yet strong. I emerge like a phoenix. Even in this ordinary life, there can be found greatness. The mystery that permeates all of life. Grace. Our lives are holy, to see, to experience, this is our propose. I KNOW, I understand now.

    16:46
    The journey recommences. Higher and higher, A little older, a little greyer. I choose the sky. My voice lifted into the blithe air. Yes I will face difficulties (18:26), but I know I can face them and not only face them, I can and will succeed. Accomplishment. Satisfaction. Majestic.

    19:45
    All forms have been seen through. And yet, life keeps going on……


    the point I am trying to tmake is that each IEI sees the world differently, each nuence, pulling from a variety of forces, history, psycho-personal history, emotional history, projection, sensations, thought sensations, plans, moments, opportunities to act, are projected into the music. What IEI has not felt music in his/her body, giving them shivers as the thoughts produce waves of emotions, often times pulled from memory.
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    Love, love is a verb
    Love is a doing word
    Fearless on my breath
    Gentle impulsion
    Shakes me, makes me lighter
    Fearless on my breath

    Teardrop on the fire
    Fearless on my breath

    Night, night after day
    Black flowers blossom
    Fearless on my breath
    Black flowers blossom
    Fearless on my breath

    Teardrop on the fire
    Fearless on my...

    Water is my eye
    Most faithful mirror
    Fearless on my breath
    Teardrop on the fire
    Of a confession
    Fearless on my breath
    Most faithful mirror
    Fearless on my breath

    Teardrop on the fire
    Fearless on my breath

    You stumble in the dark
    You stumble in the dark

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    @wacey
    I love that show I'm never on the history channel so I've forgotten about it kinda
    but I ran across a marathon once and couldn't look away haha
    I need to watch it some more

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    SO IEI.

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    @Estel that song is a classic!!! I love Dash Berlin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    @Estel that song is a classic!!! I love Dash Berlin
    Do you!? I have just discovered him! Been listening to this song on repeat - along with a glass of wine. ...could keep on doing that.
    Recommendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    Do you!? I have just discovered him! Been listening to this song on repeat - along with a glass of wine. ...could keep on doing that.
    Recommendations?
    That song is a classic I listened to it back in Lithuania before I moved to the US
    And yes I have suggestions
    Armin Van Buuren is my favorite and he's kind of like Dash Berlin so there'll be some of him thrown in here and others maybe:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyUfJVqMtO0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QckRT9efwl4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlD-ly2cpaU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEFZVvWcNxg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_tpbriGpE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Gt2D5mbrU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KqGmwi_Z5w

    That should get you started
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    Probably more E4 related too. Lou Rhodes has such an ethereal quality though...




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    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    That song is a classic I listened to it back in Lithuania before I moved to the US
    And yes I have suggestions
    Armin Van Buuren is my favorite and he's kind of like Dash Berlin so there'll be some of him thrown in here and others maybe:
    That should get you started
    Thanks Elina! This is a wonderful playlist. Thanks for the Armin Van Buuren. Some of these I have heard before; like "Waiting for the Night." Love love "In my Memory;" and if I was judging from the picture on the video, Id say Tiesto is an SLE. What is your opinion? I'm gonna add these to my running playlist. Are these guys more popular in Lithuania than the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    Thanks Elina! This is a wonderful playlist. Thanks for the Armin Van Buuren. Some of these I have heard before; like "Waiting for the Night." Love love "In my Memory;" and if I was judging from the picture on the video, Id say Tiesto is an SLE. What is your opinion? I'm gonna add these to my running playlist. Are these guys more popular in Lithuania than the US?
    Sure! Glad you liked it.
    I'm not sure on Tiesto's type. There's some English interviews he's done on youtube! Might be worth looking into if you're interested in typing him.
    I might do that myself sometime. If I do I'll let you know what I think
    And yes, this type of music is more popular in Lithuania, and in Europe in general, of course.
    The US is a little behind on EDM, but maybe it's trying to get there lately lol

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    Still not totally sure if I am EIE or IEI but Beta NF at least..



    "We're only young and naive still
    We require certain skill
    The mood it changes like the wind
    Hard to control when it begins

    The bittersweet between my teeth
    Trying to find the in-between
    Fall back in love eventually
    Yeah yeah yeah yeah

    Can't help myself but count the flaws
    Claw my way out through these walls
    One temporary escape
    Feel it start to permeate
    We lie beneath the stars at night
    Our hands gripping each other tight
    You keep my secrets hope to die
    Promises, swear them to the sky"



    "Hey heart on the road again
    Moving on forward
    Sticks and stones won't break our bones
    We're in a car on the highway
    It's a magical feeling that no one's got a hold
    You're a catalyst to your happiness you know

    This is your heart it's alive
    It's pumping blood
    And it's your heart it's alive
    It's pumping blood
    And the whole wide world is whistling
    And it's whistling"

    Guarantee you fluffy perf IEIs will love these two songs, how could you not? <3

    A + on the Massive Attack Teardrop mention... that song's gorgeous. I find that I feel extremely connected to songs that boast of youth, and that forever magical quality that comes with it -- Beta is said to be the "teenage" quadra in terms of spirit.. I definitely feel that way. That adolescent hope, rebelliousness, first love, urge to fight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    I find that I feel extremely connected to songs that boast of youth, and that forever magical quality that comes with it -- Beta is said to be the "teenage" quadra in terms of spirit.. I definitely feel that way. That adolescent hope, rebelliousness, first love, urge to fight.
    Exact same sentiments here

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Still not totally sure if I am EIE or IEI but Beta NF at least..

    Guarantee you fluffy perf IEIs will love these two songs, how could you not? <3
    Everything about this clip, the second one…….everything.
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    "When I ought to be thinking of heaven he will nail me to earth"

     







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    I don't think these songs really describes the IEI mindset but it just feels like a materialization of NiFe to me. Very dreamlike



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    I can fly
    But I want his wings
    I can shine even in the darkness
    But I crave the light that he brings
    Revel in the songs that he sings
    My angel Gabriel

    I can love
    But I need his heart
    I am strong even on my own
    But from him I never want to part
    He's been there since the very start
    My angel Gabriel
    My angel Gabriel

    Bless the day he came to be
    Angel's wings carried him to me
    Heavenly

    I can fly
    But I want his wings
    I can shine even in the darkness
    But I crave the light that he brings
    Revel in the songs that he sings
    My angel Gabriel
    My angel Gabriel
    My angel Gabriel

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    American IEI songs:



    “ . . . . I was filled with poison / But blessed with beauty and rage . . . . I'm your jazz singer / And you're my cult leader / I love you forever . . . .”





    “ . . . . I told you I'd never say goodbye / Now I'm slipping on the tears you made me cry . . . . Why’s it come as a surprise to think that I was so naive? / Maybe didn't mean that much / But it meant everything to me . . . .”



    “. . . . I can't tell you the truth about my disguise / I can't trust no one . . . .”

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    Yes Contra, I love Purity Ring <3


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