No. If this is the only time you're not ignoring me and that's all you have to say during this time, I think you're better off never knowing. Ta ta~
If you'd like to make up I am always open, but if not you can go back to silence instead of trying to get smart with me (won't work, ever). Quite frankly, your whole existence on this forum as a whiny edgelord has destroyed your dignity.
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it pleases me that the two biggest white noise posters come together so nicely to prove my point
now you just need a 1d Fi to validate your 9999th drawing of a vampire. im picturing them oooing and aaing as if its seeing a Picasso for the first time. i wonder, do you start to resent them, when the creeping awareness that they lack the ability to critically evaluate what you secretly know is shit, sets in?
Here is a tip, even though you didn't ask for it.
Making "predictions" like "this thread is going to be closed soon" is not something that points to strong Ni. It is a sign that it is making you uncomfortable. I know I have been there. It is kind of wishful thinking, if anything, so you could do a number of things to push things in that direction. You could also just tell people to stop. I have and it works in most cases unless the people have no respect for you at all. I know they still do it behind my back but I don't care. Like k4 has no respect for me so I am over him retyping me so I use it to make stupid jokes about ruling Delta. When he first started doing it, it bothered me because of other factors that I won't go into.
I am pretty sure niffer was joking when she said if it gets closed it means you are IEI. If it doesn't does it mean you are not IEI? I just want to point out that this kind of superficial type of prediction is what a lot of people think Ni is. That is one of the reasons IEI is a popular consideration of type possibility when people are new. I have no opinion on your type anymore for reasons I have stated but you have said things that pinged my Ni radar in the past. I have never talked to you like I have others on the forum who I feel more confident have strong Ni. If any of this is starting to stress you just ask people to stop. Most will because you are well liked.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I actually don't care whether this thread gets closed or not.
(I'd rather most threads didn't get closed. On some level, I was counting on people not to close it just because I said it would.)
And I don't care whether I get typed as Ni lead or not, haha.
I feel like people are taking this thread way too seriously, especially Bertrand.
naw aylen is right, if you asked me to stop I would, but you throw out so much bullshit coupled with absolute self assurance its like a travesty not to correct it. asking me to stop would just be some kind of admission you could be wrong, so of course you wouldn't, you'd rather be provocative then claim I'm some kind of madman. maybe I do care? "who cares the least" isn't some metric of points scored. viewing as it as a game where caring least is a point in a game and whoever cares the least wins is a Fe view, which I don't share, because its worthless and solves nothing
i mean really, do you just expect to go onto in infinity like this. you are young
and aylen is right, its low Ni all around, I see this stuff all the time, including the sycophantic followers
*Logs In*- "Hey look the forum is active again!"
*checks the post*- "Oh look its just people fussing and bickering again, carry on."
P.S: The fact I am on this forum and regularly post stuff, including blog entries and whatnot, is the most obvious clue to me caring about the theory etc.
But this thread itself is just a dump for all the opinions people have on your type.
Which is okay, but at the end of the day, just like mental masturbation (which I am obviously not unfamiliar with ).
Yeah, it is just like Starfall's typing thread back in the day, which eventually got closed by her.
This thread has got the same kind of vibe going on right now.
It's mildly entertaining. Finally people start caring again?
It's like the forum is temporarily wakening from its eternal slumber.
Wake up, Sleeping Beauty. And go to sleep again in a week or two.
Hm?
I was just describing my take on the whole matter earlier. Who's right or wrong is not really a question here for me. I was just sharing my thoughts. There's no way to say with utmost certainty who is right or wrong. Typology is not a math equation. It is more like philosophy than anything else. Sure, you could tell Kant that he was wrong about everything he said. But at the same time, that would rather be foolish. It is not that black and white, at the end of the day. People have their opinions, and they have the right to have them. To me, it does not look like Typology will ever reach the certainty of a math equation. It will always remain in somewhat hazy territories. Unfortunately, it is like astrology in that way. A lot of Typology is interpretation. I still favor Typology, because like you I can see its connection to the real world. People actually act in ways conducive to their type. I don't see the same connection between someone's Sun Sign and their behaviour; there's a disconnect for me, in my eyes. Anyhow, why should I admit that my view is wrong? Just because you don't agree with it? Again, there's no way you could ever prove me truly wrong, and vice versa. So why not just let it rest at that point.
Socionics needs this way:
Step #1 standardize system(s)
IFF
Step #2 use methods in creative manner (according to Reinin system) and discard stiff axiomatic rules
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Step #3 Use and think system as continuum than in discrete states (quantum states are applicable under atomic and subatomic level just check out some nuclear physics and see what kind of a mess it can become, However in approximate sense things like periodic table of elements works fairly well but it is not perfect but really good at giving explanations)
You can not really force the rules on complex systems using simplistic rules. For example law of gravitation works under strict rules but applying it is not straightforward process according to algebra because of somewhat complex interdependence.
Evidence speaks for itself but empirically working formulas do not provide pure understanding, you need the system. I think there's bit of lack on understanding how frameworks like hard sciences work. I'd call it as dialog between and .
So far there's just statistical methods and subjective reports. I don't know what Nardi did but it is probably sketchy at best. Neuroscience some day might help out.
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yes! I think this happens a lot with sophisticated concepts of all kinds, "science" and "socionics" each being their own domain, but which get "caricaturized" where one constituent element is misunderstood or omitted in a substantial way. I.E.: the Ti or Te aspect is not fully accounted for in the mind and understanding of the person when they invoke the concept, thus they use it to derive wrong conclusions or otherwise warp the framework
I see this all the time and think it is a lack of intuition or perhaps pure ignorance, and lack of intuition is the lack of sense of the lack
thinking Te requires scientific levels of "evidence" is imposing a caricature of science, first of all, onto Te, which science is derived from Te to begin with in the same way socionics is. and the Ti comes after the fact, or radically before in some open ended sense, but its the interplay between the two that grows the understanding. there is no hard and fast "science is Ti" (or Te). "science" as it is taught in classrooms is Ti, right up until they start doing their own science, but that's not science, rather that's the average person's understanding of science, etc etc. if anything science is the process of bridging Ti to Te via systematic means. its a way to codify thinking itself, but it can only do so according to the means available to it, i.e.: intersubjective, objective (as in tangible, Se) evidence. strictly speaking Te is outside that requirement, which is how socionics can be Te without being "science"
phenomenological experience is still "objective" in the Te sense, but not the "scientific" sense, at least for the time being, perhaps we will some day be able to measure it objectively. hence people conflate Te as needing "evidence" that is "real" but real is assumed to be defined as "tangible" when that does not necessarily have to be the case. If it is the case that "real" means "tangible" (in a theoretical framework) that is Ti and Ti valuing
from the point of view of socionics, "real" meaning "tangible" as a pre-ontic condition is Se valuing, but it would be a category error to mix that up with other theories/situations
to put a final spin on it: Te valuing would not preclude the possibility of ghosts and shit a priori the way a Ti valuing scientific materialist would. Its unlikely a Te valuer would, because in general all credible sources say its bullshit, but they could experience things in such a way that would be convincing, and more importantly, its not off the table as a matter of pure logic from the get-go (the way Se PoLR LII would be inclined to go)
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Does anyone need to take a break and have some milk & cookies?
!!!!! /turns into happy puppy/
ASDFÖdksjflökaöfl this is so nice and I love cookies and I'm not even arguing all over the place but still this is just so good I didn't even know I needed it. That's a game changer.
@Bertrand awesome, so you can all just leave it to me. My stomach is thrilled.
really tempted right now to change my name to "meme polar bear"
I feel like it would fit my zany hard to believe its real posting style
then I'd probably definitely get banned for trolling tho
/squints/ hopefully not your plan all along
ok ok back on topic
Your animal totem.
Anteater Lethargy, curiosity, nosiness, ability to smell out trouble, rooting around for solutions, finding the lost.
Spirit Animal - Anteater
Picture from http://www.zooborns.typepad.com/
Anteater is unique to Central and South America. It is Great Spirit’s answer to the vegetation being overrun by ants and termites. Anteater is a four legged pest control solution. Usually shades of grey with some yellowish white fur, Anteater blends in to the forests and jungles and grasslands. Although very slow moving, and with a body temperature lower than other mammals, Anteater has long, razor sharp claws for ripping apart tree trunks two feet in diameter. If attacked by a jaguar, Anteater will defend itself, and even kill the hunter. She will also use her claws to climb high into trees, searching for food.
Anteater is about the senses. It has poor eye sight and very acute hearing – it can hear termites chewing in a tree trunk! Anteater also has a good sense of smell, and can smell ants to track them to a hive. The tongue is used for taste as well as a weapon to trap ants or termites and pull them into its mouth and then swallow down to the stomach. Where other mammals have teeth, Anteater has sticky barbs on its tongue to spear its prey and begin breaking it up. If attacked, Anteater will rear up on its hind legs and hug the attacker to it (touch) and then dig its sharp claws into the back and break it.
If Anteater has appeared to you recently, she brings several messages. Is there something in your life that is “bugging” you? How will you solve it? Have you grabbed on to something and now, you do not know what to do with it? Anteater’s advice, rip into it, and get to the very core of the issue. All can be resolved.
Are things as they appear? Remember, if you don’t see clearly, anyone can try to trick you. If it doesn’t “smell” right, then the deal or situation probably has some flaws. Using Anteater’s strategy, climb higher up for a better view. Stand back from the situation and observe what is really happening.
https://angelsandancestors.blogspot.com/2009/04/spirit-animal-anteater.html
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
that's awesome anteaters are the coolest
I had no idea
Hai gais
I got bored and have no lyfe and I'm gay, so I'm always here to talk about people's types. Don't forget about me.
Let me just say that VI is in no way something that an LIE would be likely to engage in.
When I told my father (LIE) about socionics he essentially dismissed it as pseudoscientific nonsense. What do you think he might say about VI?
Some other typing to throw in the mix. I only noticed this recently: Slugabed. Not SLI. ego all the way, ESI excluded.
For instance, she sent me these videos in the visitor messages with the comment: "I've a lot of funny material, I'll share it with you."
lol does Si not like that stuff? cause im lolin just at the first frame