Originally Posted by
squark
All of this is off-topic entirely and I considered not posting anything, but might as well address it.
Yes, you're confused. LSIs don't love rules and regulations. Order is something entirely different. A law or a regulation tells you what to do and how to do it. This is why it falls under Te. The kind of "rules" that fall under Ti are more along the lines of organization and categorization. This belongs in this category, it doesn't belong in that one. This fits with this and that, but not with that.
This can be very individual as well since everyone will have their own idea of how to sort things, which criteria to choose. For instance - plants and animals and deciding which family, genus, species something is - this is highly contested all the time. And changes all the time according to new criteria, where whole branches of phylogenetic trees have been move or changed, especially now that DNA rather than physical similarities is being taken into account more and more for the divisions. Anyway, the sorting of things into categories like that is Ti. It's about how things relate to each other. How things fit together. What belongs where and with what. The only "rules" this follows are the criteria used in the sorting.
Yes, the structure and the consistency, putting things into an order (in other words, organizing) - how things fit together - like I described with the categorization. None of this has anything to do with how you must do something. It's not about laws or regulations. Laws, regulations and procedure have nothing to do with structure, and everything to do with saying how things must be done. Ti isn't about how you do something, or following regulations - it's about organization, fitting things together to understand them.
strat seems to think all betas are social instinct. She misses a lot for this reason. The small grain of truth in this though, has to do with loyalty to a system and application within it, but that is not about following regulations. It's about making a system work and how they fit into that system.
Yes, again what I was describing - structure and organization. Prioritization also is part of organizing information or objects. Categories, and the "rules" for those categories such as "All blue objects go here and all orange objects go there" and "These are the most important, these are the least" not laws or rules such as "You must file this paper and only park on this side of the street" or "Everyone has to wear a seatbelt." These are two different kinds of things.
Absolutely. This is all about the organization of information. Programming rules for instance are absolutely not the same thing as regulations and laws. Keeping track of accounting and having all of that information in order, again follows a kind of rule but it's something entirely different from the laws and regulations I was referring to. Categorizing, prioritizing, organizing, sorting, labeling -- those are the kinds of "rules" being discussed here once again. The military part is as mentioned earlier about finding a place within a system - some place where they belong and know how they belong.
I'm sure you can see by now what exactly is being referred to in every quote, and it's about structure and a system (of their own) and how things fit within that system. Not all will find the same things or same kind of system important, won't prioritize the same things or form the same categories Again categorization, sorting, organizing, how things work together, fit together, so on and so forth. And this is their own system, or one they adopt as their own in some cases, and it's not a system the way bureacracy is a system - instead it's about how one thing fits with or is connected to another thing. Hierarchy(Which is another way of saying Prioritization), Categories, Connections. It all boils down to understanding and making sense of things.
You can think about the rules of Algebra as more like Ti, where the rules of physics are more like Te. (Hopefully that comparison makes sense and I didn't just leave an opening for misunderstanding)