did he douche it up for jay z
"...Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly" (the Skin Horse)
I thought he did pretty good in it. Or maybe it's just me. There were maybe some brown nosery moments, but he's an interviewer.