I agree with Se, Te, Fe. Their Ni looks a bit like Fi, I don't see where they're coming from.
Intuition being about consistency makes sense actually. Understanding everything's place within time and reality. That's super cool to see it described like that. Ni is about realizing the reason for my existence, where I fit in with everything, be it through observing it as a bystander or actively asserting it. It's nothing to do with ethics. It actually makes way more sense to me now.
On creative Ni;
Function II. This person has constant internal embarrass*ment and internal vulnerability since he produces internal con*flicts. This person feels unneeded when there are no conflicts. This is where psychological vulnerability comes from. This person is a specialist at revealing unwhole situations in people's internal world.
I really relate to this. It sounds kind of negative but explains really well the reasons I orient myself to the world the way I do.
This also conveniently excuses me constantly flipping my type back and forth lol :/ but reading this article and relating to my prior socionics knowledge i'm thinking I'm ENxJ again.
for instance instead of perceiving the script of people think about it in terms of other scripts of worldly phenomenon such as government and the stock markets
by script i mean how something runs over a period of time
hey that's the most non-russian-ppl friendly socionics site so far. i like the automatic non-google translations and the quadra videos although they have milla jovovixch as iei (the west says lse?maybe she is Fe dom) and a beta nf dude as lse but maybe they are dunno
"...Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly" (the Skin Horse)
wow, yeah this was a really good article. It's nice they were able to keep it straightforward. I feel like a lot of the Americanized socionics stuff is kind of back and forth on itself like the person who wrote it isn't super confident.
Lol... the subjective sensation description was great, especially the part about considering medicine to be nonsense. I think my father is an SLI and the description definitely delineates him. He thinks medicines are crap (he would even go to the extent of dismissing the possibility of being ill) and he's very confident about his own health. He also has a rather annoying tendency to lecture me about my health. Since I'm prone to hypochondria due to my weak Si, this can lead to comical altercations. I reckon my mother is also an Si-valuer but her Si is creative. Probably an ESE, but she is much more aristocratic than democratic. I still find it hard to determine whether my fourth function (or suggestive) is Si or Se.
I wish they had written more about the extratim-introtim dichotomy.
Re: their function description table: Ti and Te are spot on! Mind them and thou shalt learn what Logic in Socionics is.
The Sensing descriptions are interesting but rather limited, like... side-effects. The rest is a gibberish I can hardly put together, especially the descriptions of Intuitions.
Shock intuition, diamond logic.
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