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    SLE?








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    Quote Originally Posted by Suedehead View Post
    SLE?
    Yes. SLEs seem to be one of the most insufferable dickheads in case they are, how should I put it, underdeveloped

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    I originally considered SEE as a possibility, but yeah, weak Fi.

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    Not SLE. Some rational type imo - he seems really jittery and high strung in those interviews in a way that is nontypical of SEEs and SLEs, like he's almost ready to jump out of his skin. I've considered LSE and LSI for him previously. Listening to the way Rihanna, typed ESI/IEI, talks about their relationship it doesn't sound like she's his supervisor or dual from her end, which it would be if he was SLE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJvMV6aSso4

    Oh, and the stereotype "dickhead = Fi polr/SLE" is total bunk: Fi-PoLR - Misunderstood

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    No way is he rational. LSE, really ? Te, really? I think he might have some mental problems though (bipolar if I remember correctly). Maybe he's manic and wants to jump out of his skin.

    I'm not talking stereotype SLE dickhead, I know plenty of them IRL and each and one of them has a little bit of douche in them. I like it actually, as long as it doesn't go out of hands. Besides, I'm a firm believer in stereotypes - they don't come from thin air. Where there's smoke there's fire

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    I can't listen to this song without thinking of Rihanna.




    "When I ought to be thinking of heaven he will nail me to earth"

     







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    I also wanted to add, I don't understand how duality is suppose to work anyway if one party is abusive, mentally unstable and/or a terrible person in general. For example I don't think anyone can form a healthy relationship with a person with NPD, dual or not. So I don't understand the logic behind adapting people's types to suit proper intertype relationships.

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    "I like low-maintenance girls, but at the same time, classy. She needs to take care of herself. But also be a girl who isn't afraid to get sweaty and play basketball, so it's cool if she's a tomboy."

    "Since I'm always working, my best holiday memories are definitely when I can just go home and spend time with my family."

    "Having the right people around you all the time is important. I do take the acting seriously. But this is all fun. I look at it like smoke and mirrors. I still think it's a dream, but I ain't pinching myself yet."

    "With fame, you can't trust everybody. You can't depend on them being there for you as a person. They will only be there because of what you've got you as a person. They will only be there because of what you've got and what you can bring to their life. It's not a relationship-it's a leech."

    "Loving is doing anything for them, thinking about them constantly and being able to spend your whole life with that person. Liking somebody is just like, 'Okay, I like them because of this, this and this, but I don't knkow if I am ready to be in love with them'."

    "With dates I like to cater a girl. We do whatever she likes. If she was open to what I wanted to do, it probably wouldn't be a dull date, because I am a jock."

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    I also wanted to add, I don't understand how duality is suppose to work anyway if one party is abusive, mentally unstable and/or a terrible person in general. For example I don't think anyone can form a healthy relationship with a person with NPD, dual or not. So I don't understand the logic behind adapting people's types to suit proper intertype relationships.
    Being from the same quadra makes understanding and communication easier even if there are overlaying issues like one of the people being bipolar and having anger management problems. There is an intuitive level of understanding of motivations behind their actions, why they said what they said, and what made them react the way they did - even if the other person is unhealthy, even if your personal values conflict and you hate their guts. This doesn't shine through Rihanna's account of her relationship with Chris, his behavior is bewildering to her, which is +1pt. for them not being in dual relations or from same quadra.

    some very good discussion re: dual relations between people who aren't emotionally healthy but still 'get' each other - http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post850447

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Being from the same quadra makes understanding and communication easier even if there are overlaying issues like one of the people being bipolar and having anger management problems. There is an intuitive level of understanding of motivations behind their actions, why they said what they said, and what made them react the way they did - even if the other person is unhealthy, even if your personal values conflict and you hate their guts. This doesn't shine through Rihanna's account of her relationship with Chris, his behavior is bewildering to her, which is +1pt. for them not being in dual relations or from same quadra.

    some very good discussion re: dual relations between people who aren't emotionally healthy but still 'getting' each other - http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post850447
    To be honest I don't know enough about their relationship and I'm not sure about Rihanna's type, so I can't comment on that. For me personally, I've always felt that I'm especially good at handling irrational and agressive people - the pissed off SLEs kind (my LSE boss just gets even more irritated when he sees my unconventional and unpractical ass around ). I'm good at calming them down, make them see the big picture and diffuse their agression.

    But with seeing serious mental illness from up close, with the relative I'm positive is also Beta, it's really not so black and white. When it gets to serious delusions and disortions of reality, no sane person is on the same wave lenght as the patient anymore.

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    Fi-seeking, Ej-temperament (0:58)


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    He looks coked up in the first video.

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    Re some of the stuff in this thread, there's a difference between something like an organic mental illness and simply being abusive. You can be severely mood disordered or even psychotic and still treat other people decently or better. Abusivesness is a mentality, and it has a strong social-sanctioning component. Abusers rarely change, and they don't really want to. And none of this has anything to do with type except that the dynamics at play wouldn't lead anywhere healthy, i.e., this thing called dualization couldn't unfold.

    Rihanna, in interviews, appears to have deeply loved Chris Brown, btw, and says she truly wants the best for him even though she can't be with him. It's a little bit heartbreaking to see her talk about it.

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    initially considered Fe-IEI, but LIE could work... I have a hard time seeing Se-ego.
    4w3-5w6-8w7

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    LSE*
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    LSE? Return to the theory and re-read it... I think you're lost about Socionics...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dionysius View Post
    LSE? Return to the theory and re-read it... I think you're lost about Socionics...
    How about SLE 8w7 sx/sp

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    I was thinking Se Base but I think I figured his type. He is LSI...

    I knew he wasn't Zhukov, but Napoleon is also not a good fit for him. He is Maxim.

    Didn't know him very much. Watching his interviews, he is extremely cold.... Ti Base, strong Se.

    Se-LSI.

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