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    What type is this actor? He used to play a cop in The Desperate Housewives (and probably some other more noteworthy roles, too, but unfortunately I haven't seen him elsewhere ).

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    Is he SLI? I find him ridiculously hot (and I've seen his wife Julianne Nicholson typed as ILE somewhere)
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    bump
    come on, what's his type?

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    Siiiii

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosewood View Post
    Siiiii
    care to elaborate...?

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    ANY ideas...? if Si (as suggested above) - is this guy SEI or SLI? or some other type? huhhhh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aisa View Post
    ANY ideas...? if Si (as suggested above) - is this guy SEI or SLI? or some other type? huhhhh?
    i've noticed he has some similarity to Daniel Day Lewis who was typed as LSI (link)
    similar types for sure and sx/so



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    hmm... how about LSE-Si for him?

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    some more vids:



     
    00:58-01:45


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    Quote Originally Posted by aisa View Post

    this vid is wait for it cute

    its hard to explain but he seems so normal and ridiculous hard to pin down. i have run across people like this before and i think it maybe indicative of one particular function. my initial thoughts were Ti but that doesnt seem right maybe Si idk tho its so weird

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    some more clips from films:

    02:32-03:37


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by aisa View Post
    hmm... how about LSE-Si for him?
    LSE-Si sounds like a better fit
    him and Day likely have the same instinct stacking (sx/so)

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    LSE-Si sounds like a better fit
    him and Day likely have the same instinct stacking (sx/so)

    Looks SLI to me. Doesn't he come across a bit like vladimir vysotsky.

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    hmm... I don't know Russian and I think this might also affect my perception, but...
    when I compare Vladimir Vysotsky in some videos I've found, i.e. these:

     




    and Jonathan Cake in the above videos (I'll put some below again just for keeping things together in one post), so i.e.:
     




    I think both of those guys are Delta STs, but while Vladimir Vysotsky is SLI, I think Jonathan Cake is more facially expressive and I'm inclined to go with LSE-Si>SLI for him.
    It seems to transpire in those guys' photos too, different kind of energy, not sure this can be assigned to just Enneagram, seems like a different type to me...

    Photos:
    Vladimir Vysotsky
    Jonathan Cake

    It's as if Vysotsky's energy was more contained and Cake's energy was more outward going... Vysotsky's expressions are less "finished", Cake's expressions seem to go "all the way", so smile ending sort of halfway compared to a full smile or just more pronounced... Vysotsky's expressions are more "pained" and Cake's more "optimistic" - this sounds not exactly how I mean it, but Idk how else to put it...
    ...or is Cake one of those more "extroverted seeming" SLIs?


    What do you guys think?

     
    @Park, @UDP, @Maritsa, @applejacks, @Becca, @Eliza Thomason, @Radio, @Subteigh, @StridingStrider, @Galen, @Geminatronix, @WorkaholicsAnon, @Minde - pretty please, could you help me with figuring this out...?
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    looks pretty Alpha to me.

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    if he's delta, he's EII. if he's alpha, he's SEI. i don't think any other types are right. too amicable and warm for LSE.

    edit: or LII possibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    if he's delta, he's EII. if he's alpha, he's SEI. i don't think any other types are right. too amicable and warm for LSE.

    edit: or LII possibly.
    thank you for a fast reply
    hmm, so you're saying only introverted types, either Alpha or Delta...
    What would be examples of people you base your typing on that "vibe" similarly? Male EII, SEI and LII... If there were videos available that'd be great, I'm curious of the facial mannerisms. I'd like to see what you see.

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    Seems Fe/Ti introvert and Sx primary, Sx/So > Sx/Sp. I like his beard.

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    maybe hes is Te dom and this normalness, so to speak, i see in him is relaxed Fe role function

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    @The Martrix, @Director Abbie, @darya, @lemontrees, @Reficulris, @Elina, @mercutio, @Aylen, @Ananke, @Olly2OxenFree, @LostInDreams
    I am also curious of your opinions pretty please


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    My first impression 9w8 SLI, but really not sure about this one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aisa View Post
    @The Martrix, @Director Abbie, @darya, @lemontrees, @Reficulris, @Elina, @mercutio, @Aylen, @Ananke, @Olly2OxenFree, @LostInDreams
    I am also curious of your opinions pretty please


    edit: P.S. cheers to the 600th post

    Congrats on the 600!

    I would have to read more about him to really get a better sense of who he is. I have not memorized all the functions connected to all the types yet...From the one video I could not see myself having any kind of ego clash (SLI = my sister's husband is one) with this person, Appears to be soft spoken, chill and friendly. Didn't activate my polr in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aisa View Post
    @The Martrix, @Director Abbie, @darya, @lemontrees, @Reficulris, @Elina, @mercutio, @Aylen, @Ananke, @Olly2OxenFree, @LostInDreams
    I am also curious of your opinions pretty please


    edit: P.S. cheers to the 600th post
    Congratulations on your 600th!
    Looks a logical type. I will do some rummaging.

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    I have no proper thoughts on the matter - I don't know who he is, although I think he has an interesting name. From appearances he reminds me of the comedian Rob Brydon when he is doing his "hurt and self-indulgent" character that he does, although actually watching him, he seems like an entirely different type completely.

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    I would say E and T... also Si. LSE imo (VI).

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    I've never seen this person before in my life and I'm not good at VI. My initial impression based on the second movie was LIE, but I don't see a reason he can't be SLI. He doesn't seem LSE...or SEE, or IEI, or ESE, or EIE, or IEE, or LII...want to try process of elimination?

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    @Director Abbie, I'm open to suggestions - process of elimination sounds interesting

    I have a question on this part:
    My initial impression based on the second movie was LIE, but I don't see a reason he can't be SLI. He doesn't seem LSE...
    LIE is Te-lead, so is LSE and SLI Te-creative - what makes you eliminate LSE, but assume LIE or SLI are plausible - what do they share in common that the LSE doesn't (I thought SLI would have more in common with LSE than with LIE?)

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    Congrats, you're the most avid user of the mention tag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Congrats, you're the most avid user of the mention tag.
    why so grumpy?

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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    acshully he V.I.'s a lot like ESE-Fe in some of his photos
    i've checked him against pics of LSE-Sis and LIEs and it seemed off




    and his wife looks rather Ti




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    I don't like his face is all I have to say.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    My first impression was a delta ST of some kind (LSE>SLI), but I guess ESE and LIE are also possible in my mind.

    Does anyone else see a similarity between him and what's his name... main actor in Braveheart?
    Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx

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    @WorkaholicsAnon - yeah I see sth similar, but I think Mel Gibson is a different etype than this guy...? I also saw sth similar in Hugh Jackman's mannerisms in interviews (more so than in Gibson, I guess, I don't know Gibson's etype, but I think Jackman is e7w8?), but Cake seems a bit hmm warmer/softer, can't find the right word.
    I think this guy is either LSE-Si 9w8 sx/so or SLI 9w8 sx/so. I'm leaning towards the former, but I don't know...
    I know Park (whom I won't mention tag to spare him the annoyance ) mentioned Schwarzenegger as an example of e9w8 LSE-Si before, but I'd guess he'd be so/sp instinct stacking. Schwarzenegger seems sort of "blank" when I look at him.

    (I wouldn't exclude ESE or LIE from the above videos, but it feels like there's too little Fe for ESE and too much Si for LIE... but it's just a "vibe" )

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    acshully he V.I.'s a lot like ESE-Fe in some of his photos
    i've checked him against pics of LSE-Sis and LIEs and it seemed off

    and his wife looks rather Ti
    yeah, his wife does look Ti, but I don't know if they're from the same quadra or not...?

    could you please link some ESE-Fe pics that you mentioned that VI similarly to him?

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    ESE LSE are both good for me, but i'm not too sure, guy throws me off in a way. There is something "fishy" about his looks, can't really articulate, I feel like he's representing himself other than he is (yes he is an actor, but also in interviews) and is succeeding (but not quite).

    I know, pretty useless analysis.

    Watch the microexpressions....

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    I've changed my mind to LSE - Si

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    ESE LSE are both good for me, but i'm not too sure, guy throws me off in a way. There is something "fishy" about his looks, can't really articulate, I feel like he's representing himself other than he is (yes he is an actor, but also in interviews) and is succeeding (but not quite).

    I know, pretty useless analysis.

    Watch the microexpressions....
    he feels fishy and unctuous, yeah. I wouldn´t like him if I met him.

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    not SLI, he seems Ej. subjective impression: mehhh.

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    maybe it's the role Fe that gives this "fake" impression to you guys? I've seen it in LSEs and LIEs before... hmmm?

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