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    I read his whole manifesto and it really creeped me out how much what he writes about reminded me of what I've seen some people post on online forums, especially what I've seen posted in this particular forum...

    If anyone else wants to check it out: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ment.html?_r=0

    Anyway, apparently he has Asperger's syndrome and an array of other personality disorders going on, so typing him would be difficult. Judging from what I've seen and read, I could see him as a highly socially awkward EIE (anyone else notice a lot of Hitle*r similarities...?)
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    Don't think it's a good idea to try and type crazy people.

    That being said, extremely unhealthy EIE or ILE.

    Not sure if there's anything in socionics to support this, but I always see tons of similarities between unhealthy EIEs and ILEs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blood moon View Post

    Not sure if there's anything in socionics to support this, but I always see tons of similarities between unhealthy EIEs and ILEs.
    I've kind of noticed this as well.
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    so.. do any girls find him kinda cute after what happened?
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    nope.

    but i find it sad to see how something like severe feelings of rejection/misanthropy can veer so quickly in that directly with mental conditions that actually stunt things like empathy, although I'm sure that contributed to rejection to begin with. i'm sure also that it's far easier for me to sympathize for him from far away than up close; always a weird dilemma.

    also he actually *is* cute, minus the crazy (big minus)

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    Misogynist, racist, and self-absorbed spoiled brats are not cute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I read his whole manifesto and it really creeped me out how much what he writes about reminded me of what I've seen some people post on online forums, especially what I've seen posted in this particular forum...
    It's probably hard to accept him as a human being..
    (anyone else notice a lot of Hitle*r similarities...?)
    ..especially since he needs to be compared to others who are also demonized beyond human.
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    Here's Mark Manson's "How We All Are Miss The Point On School Shootings". You might not like it.
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    he's on the cuter side going by looks, but that was completely outweighed by his psychological problems and his repulsive personality

    most likely he's had a full-blown narcissistic personalty disorder, as per the 3rd video he slips into delusions about being a god and tells his friend about dominating the world (NPD'er delusions of grandeur)

    what's interesting is that several of the people who knew him expected that he would act out at some point ... they described him as awkward, standoffish, with anti-social tendencies, consumed by envy of other people's success - type-wise he sounds like an unhealthy 3w4, possibly LII since he was reported to be not mindful of the social pleasantries so Fe leading typing is a stretch






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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post

    ..especially since he needs to be compared to others who are also demonized beyond human.
    Read his manifesto.

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    most likely he's had a full-blown narcissistic personalty disorder, as per the 3rd video he slips into delusions about being a god and tells his friend about dominating the world (NPD'er delusions of grandeur)
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    Definitely. The first time I watched that video, so many aspects of Elliot reminded me of my ex (aside from the female discrimination & social issues) who has been diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. They even dressed the same, talked the same and drove the same car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Read his manifesto.
    I've taken a look. Might take another.

    What have you read from Hit-ler that compares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I read his whole manifesto


    Why? That thing is 140 pages long...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    I've taken a look. Might take another.

    What have you read from Hit-ler that compares?


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    Why? That thing is 140 pages long...
    I was sick in bed all day and had nothing better to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Anyway, apparently he has Asperger's syndrome and an array of other personality disorders going on, so typing him would be difficult. Judging from what I've seen and read, I could see him as a highly socially awkward EIE (anyone else notice a lot of Hitle*r similarities...?)
    But you do realize when you put it like this, it sounds like you are talking about his personality being linked to that of Hit-ler's? I doubt that wanting to have concentration camps is really a sign of personality, not to even speak of not being type related.
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    He could have at least mentioned constructing artificial uteri for his plan to not suck royally; those "baby factories" are inaccessible for nine months at a time. Plus, I wonder what he'd do on realizing that 50% of sperm ( including his own ) have an X chromosome?
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    This is why prostitution should be legalized so people like Elliot Rodger and George Sodini don't go on shooting sprees due to sexual frustration IMO. As for his type, I would have to look into him more before deciding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    But you do realize when you put it like this, it sounds like you are talking about his personality being linked to that of Hit-ler's? I doubt that wanting to have concentration camps is really a sign of personality, not to even speak of not being type related.
    The concentration camp wasn't the only similarity. Both had the same feelings of superiority and anger towards a particular group and were passionate about caring out their demise, both were irritable and aggressive, neither showed remorse for implementing horrible acts towards others if they personally felt dislike towards that individual (devalued Fi?), both were uncomfortable in situations where they were not getting the attention that they felt they deserved, and both chose death at their own hands over being held prisoner, despite neither actually wanting to die.

    Of course a lot of those things may be more related to psychological disorders than type, but you can't deny that their was some similarity in their thought processes. I still don't think that EIE is an outlandish typing for Eliot. Intuitive, devalued Fi, Aristocratic, Beta > Alpha, rational > irrational
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suedehead View Post
    If it wasn't that it would've been something else. He's a sociopath.
    Hard to say, that might of been the last straw for him on top of other reasons. As for his psychological disorders, I am seeing a lot of different diagnoses in this thread so who knows what he really had.
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    who gives a shit about this loser nobody

    stop glorifying terrorists

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    also fwiw, seems like a mentally unstable EIE / ILE / SLE.

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    "nice guys" taken to the extreme. @Raver you are way off the mark. He thought pussy should just fall in his lap and when it didn't he had plenty of people and ideologies justifying his resentment. He's a secret hero for creepy losers everywhere.

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    Ha radio you fuckhead

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5dolladogsoup View Post
    Ha radio you fuckhead
    what why

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    what why
    Huh? you said who cares and then took place in the thread i thought you were being ironic

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5dolladogsoup View Post
    Huh? you said who cares and then took place in the thread i thought you were being ironic
    yeah. well, i was just reading up on him and i realized he's not even a very interesting school shooter. he was narcissistic and wanted attention and i guess since we're giving it to him now, he won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    yeah. well, i was just reading up on him and i realized he's not even a very interesting school shooter. he was narcissistic and wanted attention and i guess since we're giving it to him now, he won.
    Yeah i agree it w/e tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    "nice guys" taken to the extreme. @Raver you are way off the mark. He thought pussy should just fall in his lap and when it didn't he had plenty of people and ideologies justifying his resentment. He's a secret hero for creepy losers everywhere.
    Well, I wasn't implying that his behavior and thought process was justified because it certainly isn't. I just think it's one of many reasons to legalize prostitution as a preventative measure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Well, I wasn't implying that his behavior and thought process was justified because it certainly isn't. I just think it's one of many reasons to legalize prostitution as a preventative measure.
    if it was about letting off sexual steam, the dude could just masturbate. thats clearly not what it was about.

    (i do agree that prostitution should probably be legalized)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Well, I wasn't implying that his behavior and thought process was justified because it certainly isn't. I just think it's one of many reasons to legalize prostitution as a preventative measure.
    How about teaching boys that *access to pussy* is no right and that women are not there for their sexual gratification? That sounds like a much better preventative measure than giving them unrestricted access to women they can view as nothing more than sex objects.

    Edited to add: I do think prostitution should be legal, but for the benefit of the prostitutes, not the johns.
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    I find it difficult to begin to judge someone who was 'probably' mental ill or think about the extent to which his actions were affected...I'd rather that things like misogyny be tackled on a society-wide level rather than potentially demonize someone who may have been mental ill, which would be another malaise that society has been guilty of. ...he's dead now...maybe if he had been assessed by a court I'd feel more comfortable providing armchair analysis.
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    @Kim and @Subteigh get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    if it was about letting off sexual steam, the dude could just masturbate. thats clearly not what it was about.

    (i do agree that prostitution should probably be legalized)
    Masturbation probably wasn't enough for him and porn probably makes it worse. Though, to be fair, it does seem like he has an entitlement complex judging by that quote Starfall posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Well, I wasn't implying that his behavior and thought process was justified because it certainly isn't. I just think it's one of many reasons to legalize prostitution as a preventative measure.
    Legalizing prostitution would have solved nothing for Eliot. In his manifesto he said that he saw prostitution as degrading to his self worth. He desperately wanted women to flock to him out of their own free will, like they did with those guys he saw as "animals"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    How about teaching boys that *access to pussy* is no right and that women are *gasp* not there for their sexual gratification? That sounds like a much better preventative measure than giving them unrestricted access to women they can view as nothing more than sex objects.

    Edited to add: I do think prostitution should be legal, but for the benefit of the prostitutes, not the johns.
    lol fucking Fi trying to be logical in shit what a nightmare its his opinion girlfriend no reason to reprimand him for thinking so is the thought antisocial not really prostitution = less rapes and shit thats what he saying and for the most part that is a decent assumption also note its a reason not the reason

    damn look at me living up to that 9 wing already brainwashed

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5dolladogsoup View Post
    prostitution = less rapes and shit thats what he saying and for the most part that is a decent assumption
    id be interested in seeing data on this. it could be true but i don't see why its a "decent assumption"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    How about teaching boys that *access to pussy* is no right and that women are *gasp* not there for their sexual gratification? That sounds like a much better preventative measure than giving them unrestricted access to women they can view as nothing more than sex objects.
    No offense intended, but good luck subverting a 14-25 year old boy's biochemistry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Legalizing prostitution would have solved nothing for Eliot. In his manifesto he said that he saw prostitution as degrading to his self worth. He desperately wanted women to flock to him out of their own free will, like they did with those guys he saw as "animals"
    Ah, well then in this case it seems like not much could of helped him due to his entitlement complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerx View Post
    No offense intended, but good luck subverting a 14-25 year old boy's biochemistry.
    is this biochemistry at odds with respecting women and seeing them as human?
    this isnt a rhetorical question..i obviously don't know what its like to be a teenage boy.
    i just don't think sex drive in itself is the problem here.

    the fact that this can be rationalized as a "boys will be boys" thing is what i'm getting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    id be interested in seeing data on this. it could be true but i don't see why its a "decent assumption"
    i see what you may be saying how most "rapes and shit" arent premeditated but for the most part the brothel will make sex less of an issue for some and not to be anal but the keyword is less

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