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    Default Stuck in another Quadra

    After easily releasing from Beta (aunt/vigilantly friend(s) = ENFj, grandfather/boyfriend's father = ISTj, aunt/self = INFp, and EX-boyfriend = ESTp), I've been romantically stuck in Gamma for nearly 10 years.

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    You have my sympathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifer View Post
    After easily releasing from Beta (aunt/vigilantly friend(s) = ENFj, grandfather/boyfriend's father = ISTj, aunt/self = INFp, and EX-boyfriend = ESTp), I've been romantically stuck in Gamma for nearly 10 years.

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    I am a Beta stuck in Delta, with some Gammas thrown in as well.

    I think it has a refining effect in that I more cautious about Fe expressions, and have a better appreciation for being more careful about Si related things. So maybe I am more socially well rounded.

    The less positive is that it has made me insecure about expressing myself, and that I feel slightly immature, loud, reckless. It also makes me a little sad when my Ni insights are devalued by the Deltas, and my Ne insights are devalued by the Gammas.

    Waaaaaaaaa.
    You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
    Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation
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    Well, it was nice knowing you. I'll say nice things when you're gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    I am a Delta [forever] stuck in Beta...

    I think it has a refining effect in that I more cautious about Fe expressions, and have a better appreciation for being more careful about Si related things. So maybe I am more socially well rounded.

    The less positive is that it has made me insecure about expressing myself, and that I feel slightly immature, loud, reckless. It also makes me a little sad when my Ni insights are devalued by the Deltas, and my Ne insights are devalued by the Gammas.

    Waaaaaaaaa.
    Gotcha!

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    Relationships in order, that lasted more than 2 years. From age 14 until most recent.

    SLE - ILI - SLE -ILI -EIE - SLE

    Pattern... disturbed by the EIE.

    "Stuck" implies you want out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    Well, it was nice knowing you. I'll say nice things when you're gone.
    Where she going? They bite, right? Will it turn her into a gamma? Is there gamma repellent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    I couldn't imagine anyone being stuck in any quadra, really.
    Just FYI...

    The "masterminds": LII, EII, IEI, and ILI can get stuck in a number of ways because of their introverted and intuitive nature.

    For example, this is an EII stuck in Beta (the LSI complain game in particular).

    Last edited by IBTL; 05-24-2014 at 02:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifer View Post
    Just FYI...

    The "masterminds": LII, EII, IEI, and ILI can get stuck in a number of ways because of their introverted and intuitive nature.
    Huh? Why are they "masterminds"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    Huh? Why are they "masterminds"?
    Intra-quadra Personas

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    I get that you're grouping them together with that name, I just don't understand what makes INxx types "masterminds".

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    I get that you are asking about that name. I just don't understand why you don't care about the grouping. =/
    People are free to group the types in any way they wish. It has no bearing on my own understanding or inclinations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    People are free to group the types in any way they wish. It has no bearing on my own understanding or inclinations.
    You know, it really didn't occur to me either until I started looking at established types of government and questioning who was behind those establishments and their underlying structures. I'll PM you...

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    I'm in Beta EXile because of my EX-boyfriend = ESTp!

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    i have no idea what you mean by stuck. However as an ILE, my two closest friends are actually SLI. Which leads to some very terrible group meetups. I met almost all of my friends through the SLI, so I'm essentially stuck in delta or gamma friend groups. My family is gamma, extended is beta. There's almost no alphas in my life, it's ridiculous how much I've failed

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    Mastermind is a similar and relatable term with Strategist. Both of which involve more patience than action(I>E) and a larger capacity for identifying patterns conceptually(N>S)
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it’s a disease, it’s nobody’s fault. Yay empiricism.

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