View Poll Results: Which are your fave type descriptions?

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  • Beskova (Male or Female portrait)

    1 7.14%
  • Filatova

    7 50.00%
  • Gulenko

    5 35.71%
  • Meged & Ovcharov

    3 21.43%
  • "Profiles by Functional Assignments"

    1 7.14%
  • Prokofieva & Kuzmina

    0 0%
  • Socioniko.net

    1 7.14%
  • Stratiyevskaya

    6 42.86%
  • Wikisocion.org

    1 7.14%
  • other

    2 14.29%
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    Default Best type descriptions and authors: rankings and poll

    Read the descriptions for your type, rank them somehow (maybe using some scale or order of preference, and maybe using this thread to record your assessment progress), then vote for your fave in the poll. I've made it multi-choice...you can vote for as few as you like.

    If you don't know your type (or are not certain), then look at whichever you wish!




    You will need to go to http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Types to get the wikisocion descriptions, otherwise the descriptions can be found here: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php
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    1. Stratievskaya- Probably one of the hardest and longest to read, but I think it really nails it, for me at least.
    2. Profiles by Functional Assignments- Pretty good.
    3. Gulenko- He is a little too hyped in my opinion, but still he is good.
    4. Beskova- decent (I do not look like a small boy that grew to the size of an adult!)
    5. Filatova- she seems to take jabs at my type that I don't really agree with, but otherwise her description is decent. Maybe not as holistic as it could be.
    6. Meged & Ochvaroc- a little too narrow, but what it says is good.
    7. Socioniko.net- Meh
    7. Wikisocion.org- It is not nearly as holistic as it should be. It also gets a quite a bit wrong, but it probably has more right than wrong.
    8. Prokofieva & Kuzmina- Just way too narrow. It doesn't seem to say much at all. I would say I am strategic though I am sure many other types can lay claim to that too.
    Last edited by Contra; 05-20-2014 at 02:50 AM.

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    my favs for IEE are Rick DeLong's Extended IEE description, and Jacob Zemon's "Best Type Description Ever Written"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuralia View Post
    1. Stratievskaya- Probably one of the hardest and longest to read, but I think it really nails it, for me at least.
    Well go figure... Stratievskaya is ILI too (or so I've heard).

    What i've come to realize is that, when trying to self-type, it's best to rely on type descriptions written by people of the same type you are trying to find out about.

    Then, once you arrive at a self-typing, you can read descriptions of your type written by other types, to see how the other types perceive you.
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    Hah did not know that, but it makes sense.

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    1) Sociotype
    2) Wikisocion/Socioniko(Too short.)
    3) Stratiyevskaya/Beskova
    4) Gulenko/Filatova

    That should be it.
    Last edited by suedehead; 05-20-2014 at 03:20 AM.

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    I think Beskova's are likely the best for "external" type identification.

    Strats definitely put a lot of effort in her descriptions, but they are too colored by her own personal perception of the types, and she sometimes seem to have specific people in mind rather than focus on giving a general description.

    I don't like the wikisocion descriptions, they are too formal and it's very hard (for me) to understand how they can be related to real people and their everyday behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    Well go figure... Stratievskaya is ILI too (or so I've heard).
    Quote Originally Posted by Neuralia View Post
    Hah did not know that, but it makes sense.
    stratiyevskaya's page on wikisocion lists her type as ESI: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...ievskaya,_Vera

    @Subteigh which profiles are "profiles by functional assignments"? there are several of them in circulation.


    Last edited by Nevero; 05-27-2014 at 09:33 PM.

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    Stratiyevskaya 's have been the most informative for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevero View Post
    stratiyevskaya's page on wikisocion lists her type as ESI: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...ievskaya,_Vera

    @Subteigh which profiles are "profiles by functional assignments"? there are several of them in circulation.


    I meant the ones on this forum that don't have a listed author as far as I can see:
    Alpha: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/223
    Beta: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/224
    Gamma: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/225
    Delta: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/226
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    Stratiyevskaya is the Stratocaster of Socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevero View Post
    stratiyevskaya's page on wikisocion lists her type as ESI: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...ievskaya,_Vera
    well hey, close enough...

    no wonder her IEE description was so off my own self-perception. it's colored by the supervisee-hate
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    Filatova for the motherfucking win

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    Filatova, Meged & Ovcharov ....

    type descriptions by Stratievskaya are as clear as mud.

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    The best descriptions of anything are descriptions that are:

    -> clear
    -> concise
    -> convergent

    ...so if any of those are at least 2 / 3, then they should be good enough. I have no use for pages upon pages of trite descriptions when it could've been done as easily in a page or two. After all: "There is a right dosage for everything"

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    Gorenko have made not bad book with descriptions.
    The best way is to read several authors and get matching part.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeves View Post
    Filatova, Meged & Ovcharov ....

    type descriptions by Stratievskaya are as clear as mud.
    I agree Beskova too does an amazing job of describing physical characteristics of each type. They are all quite good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Gorenko have made not bad book with descriptions.
    the best way is toread several authors and get matching part.
    Love that Te ahhummm

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    Default Which are the best authors ?

    wikisocion.png

    Which are the best/least biased ?

    Which should i avoid ?
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    Gulenko, Filatova, Beskova, Prokofieva, Weisband - these should be mediocre, at least. if the translation is ok

    skip parts of texts which use Reinin's dichotomies and subtypes, - that is not normal Socionics
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    I love Beskova

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    most votes for best type descriptions have gone to Filatova, Guleko, and Stratiyevskaya

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    most votes for best type descriptions have gone to Filatova, Guleko, and Stratiyevskaya
    Quality of Stratiyevskaya's book is doubtful.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    skip parts of texts which use Reinin's dichotomies, - that is not normal Socionics
    Actually, classical Socionics includes the Reinin dichotomies.

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    Gulenko, Ausra. Im going to read Beskova sometime. You can try to pick a relation, for example activity (if you experience it) and on the 16 types site you find they have listed what all the authors say about it. And then go with the one you understand best.

    I wish to read "
    Eugene Gorenko, Vladimir Tolstikov, "Nature of self"" and "intertype relationships by Aušra Augustinavičiūtė".

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