Ti-SLE. Winslet-esque stoicness in the second pic, physical rhythms suggestive of irrational > rational (looser, more relaxed and open) and facial mannerisms indicate static > dynamic (less rushed, more punctuated at intervals).
Compare to Amanda Palmer, Ni-EIE, who exhibits an implicit control over her atmosphere and more rapid mannerisms (2:30 for interview):
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Mortal, mortal, what would you
With that beauty once was yours?
Perishable is the dew,
And the dust endures.
Any other opinions on her type? Isn't she Beta NF?
There's something about her that reminds me of myself a bit.
She is very warm and gots lots of feels.
She feels real and warmly inviting. Didn't have time to get into quotes&co, but she seems to be a very relaxed Ethical type with some dreaminess thrown in there. IEI-Fe and even ESI-Fi are possible. Strong So in the stack, too.
For Jemima Kirke I can see EIE, IEI, SLE, ESI just because the typings you guys have posted before me! All really good typings I could believe any one of them. She really does feel like a warm, inviting EIE. Even a well rounded ESI.
I want to discuss extroverted feeling how I understand it because I think Jemima demonstrates quite a bit of it in a very natural way.
The thing with extroverted feeling is the individual in real time is emoting thoughts and feelings they genuinely are having in that moment. There is a receptivity from their inner world to their outer one as well as an authenticity to their expression, whether that expression is in body language, or facial. Why do you think extroverted feelers are so adept at making people feel certain ways? Because the extroverted feeler is being real. People are not receptive to what is not real. This point is most often played down in type descriptions in place of a "manipulator" concept which is simply an ugly way of describing how extroverted feeling can effect those around him/herself. The extroverted feelers honesty is what enlivens others. Others can feel within themselves because they can see the qaulitative expressions of the Fe ego, who themselves are legitimately DISPLAYING whatever is coming into their conscious awareness in any given moment. This is part of the reason Fe is described as being a "dynamic" information element. Because it is subject to the moment and the players within it.
Even while being asked questions, you can see the "wheels turning" inside Jemima's head. You can see the "blankness" come across her face when its appropriate. You can hear the intermittent "sighs" as she feels the implications of hear thoughts and emotes those emotional punctuations. You can see corresponding and appropriate emotional cues that leave no room for doubt about this women's sentiments, at least the ones she wants the interviewer to see.
And this brings me to my next point. Other ethicals are also adept at displaying emotional cues during conversation. They can use Fe as tools for getting a job done, of course most often subconsciously and without awareness I'm guessing depending on wether or not the Fe informational element is in an inert position or a contact one. Ethicals may reveal themselves with extroverted feeling in order to increase or decrease relational receptivity, as a sort of revealing ones neck in order to become close. For example the demonstrative Fe of the IEE who uses black ethics to become the class clown for a time before settling down now that everyone is acquainted and the ice is broken.
This is slightly different from Fe egos, who have this wonderful capacity to both have subtle emotions and at the same time be consciously aware and adept at their expression over a sustained amount of time, the ego block being the most comfortable place for the psyche to be. They are natural actors: both method acting, as in feeling the emotions for real; and character, more concerned with expression. Who was the ultimate actor? I'd say Hamlet. He fooled everyone, even himself. They become encouraged maybe even more vocal in cases when their expression is appreciated and they are listened to. There is a sense of naturalness about getting to know them because their level of animation is congruent with the level of reception they are receiving. I think this is more-so the case with the Fe extroverts.
Keep in mind the Fe ego always authentically feels first. Human beings are empathetic creatures, to not show receptivity or the "wrong" kind to an extroverted feeler is cause for interpersonal conflict, which explains the issues that arise from the EIE/ SLI or even IEI/LSE conflictors, who may see the lack of response from their Te/Si friends as a sort of callousness. Which is often a baseless perception as us socialists can understand for Te/Si egos form sentiments based not on dynamic interplay of expression and body language, but on feelings that arise gradually and change little until significant disruptions occur. This is Fi style of ethics.
A true Fe ego block might be less concerned with regulating the relational distances, the unspoken threads that tie people together, in an end to itself. The Fe ego simply "are", whether it be with a coworker, a boss, a family friend, a lover, as the emotive receptivity speaks for itself.
The distinction between the two valued ethics in a certain individual becomes more apparent over time. Many distinctions can be found concerning Fe/Fi depending on where the ethics sit in the personality "structure".
For myself, I think other clues other than the Fe/Fi dichotomy for Jemima would have to be explored. For reasons I just explained the extroverted/introverted feeling line is a blurry one with many of the Ethicals. On an intuitive level if I am associating Fe with this women, then their must be a reason for it.
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I'd say she'd value Fe in that I see alpha SF.
When I saw her Jessa dance on Girls, SEI/ISFp is what clicked for me :)