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    Hello, anyone who happens to read my thread. I am new to Socionics, but am a long-time hobbyist of JCF and related theories. Nice to meet you all!

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    Welcome!

    Refugee staging area is over there. *points*

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    Hello

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    Welcome!

    Refugee staging area is over there. *points*
    Oh, so refugees are common? :-P

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    Hello

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquility View Post
    Oh, so refugees are common? :-P
    Hello! And refugees are quite common...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Hello! And refugees are quite common...
    Why's that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquility View Post
    Why's that?
    Hoping you could shed some light on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    Hoping you could shed some light on that.
    I came from PerC because I was very interested in the Socionics 16 relationships types which rang true for me in so many ways. MBTI doesn't have anything like that. What they say is compatible for types is often not compatible, IMO. Some people on PerC at the time I migrated here considered Socionics as being off-topic for an MBTI site. Not sure if that's changed. (However, then again, some people here would rather not talk Socionics. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    I came from PerC because I was very interested in the Socionics 16 relationships types which rang true for me in so many ways. MBTI doesn't have anything like that. What they say is compatible for types is often not compatible, IMO. Some people on PerC at the time I migrated here considered Socionics as being off-topic for an MBTI site. Not sure if that's changed. (However, then again, some people here would rather not talk Socionics. )
    I really wish they had a site that was just for functional type theories in general. PerC and TypeCentral are MBTI leaning, and this site is Socionics leaning, but I don't really relate to either theory. They just seem to make too many assumptions, with both theories trying to confine something extremely dynamic and abstract in a simple structure. It would be nice to have a site to present your own views on Jung's original conceptions (or even present other people's views), without adhering to a limiting structure devised by a small group of personality 'experts'. Not to demean these people and all the hard work they put in, I just don't agree with them. I may just be talking crazy, though.

    (Though, the real reason I left PerC is because my school blocked it. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    Hoping you could shed some light on that.
    It's the men from Res. They have driven back the eastern outposts, and wrecked havoc in the countryside. We have tried to fend them off, but they are strong. Millions are fleeing from the wrath of those barbarians. Tis better to lose your home and land than to lose your life, and we must do anything we can to defend the land of Psyche!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquility View Post
    (Though, the real reason I left PerC is because my school blocked it. )
    They were only trying to protect you from yourself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    They were only trying to protect you from yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquility View Post
    (Though, the real reason I left PerC is because my school blocked it. )
    there are ways around that, you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    there are ways around that, you know
    If effort and risk are worth the reward. I don't usually like to use other websites to log into my accounts so I never tried them.

    http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Bypass_S...ternet_Filters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    If effort and risk are worth the reward. I don't usually like to use other websites to log into my accounts so I never tried them.

    http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Bypass_S...ternet_Filters
    I'm not going to do that. I was already burned once for something similar, and do not wish to be burned again.
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    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquility View Post
    I'm not going to do that. I was already burned once for something similar, and do not wish to be burned again.
    Heh my suspicions of the motives of the proxy sites or unknown software are enough to make me avoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Heh my suspicions of the motives of the proxy sites or unknown software are enough to make me avoid.
    They do seem shady, yes. I like the references to Greek mythology in your profile.
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    Thank you!

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    Hii hi hi *waves*

    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquility View Post
    I really wish they had a site that was just for functional type theories in general. PerC and TypeCentral are MBTI leaning, and this site is Socionics leaning, but I don't really relate to either theory. They just seem to make too many assumptions, with both theories trying to confine something extremely dynamic and abstract in a simple structure. It would be nice to have a site to present your own views on Jung's original conceptions (or even present other people's views), without adhering to a limiting structure devised by a small group of personality 'experts'. Not to demean these people and all the hard work they put in, I just don't agree with them. I may just be talking crazy, though.

    (Though, the real reason I left PerC is because my school blocked it. )
    And hm, maybs eventually make a thread if you wanna I went for nearly full compatibility with standard socionical material on the mechanical level, and this leans towards "extremely dynamic" moreso than "simple structure" haha... @zap's got some cool stuff in the works too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    Hii hi hi *waves*



    And hm, maybs eventually make a thread if you wanna I went for nearly full compatibility with standard socionical material on the mechanical level, and this leans towards "extremely dynamic" moreso than "simple structure" haha... @zap's got some cool stuff in the works too...
    That is... extremely complex. I will try to wrap my head around it. It is very technical. Thank you for pointing me to your ideas, I enjoy seeing other perspectives!

    Not entirely certain about posting my observations, considering how completely different they are from Socionics. The only ideas from Socionics I really incorporated in it are the clubs (though, they differ from the Socionics clubs) and the nature of the leading function, rejecting the emphasis MBTI/JCF people such as Thomson and Beebe place on the auxiliary. I do like the Socionics descriptions of Si, Ne, and Ni, however, so do have some parallels there in my descriptions of the Introverted Sensation and Extraverted/Introverted Intuitive types.

    But I digress... just worried that my ideas might get negative reactions, considering this is a Socionics forum.
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    Thank you!

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