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    Ashton what do you think?


    Attempt to define the IM Aspects

    / Object Dynamics

    Behavior over time.
    Explicit-Initial = Observation
    Implicit-Secondary = Interpretation

    / Object Statics

    Behavior in space.
    Explicit-Initial = Observation
    Implicit-Secondary = Interpretation

    / Subject Statics

    Effect in space.
    Explicit-Initial = Observation
    Implicit-Secondary = Interpretation

    / Subject Dynamics

    Effect over time.
    Explicit-Initial = Observation
    Implicit-Secondary = Interpretation


    Clarification:
    Explicit-Initial = Observation
    Implicit-Secondary = Interpretation

    For example is Explicit and is the Initial source of information through Observation, which is then Interpreted by , which is Implicit and Secondary.

    I think information passes through and at the same time(I haven't seen any TIM models in English), but my proposal doesn't look at it from this perspective.
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    @EyesSeeCold:

    How about, instead of "Results in/over space/time," go with "Effects in/over space/time." Results seems to have Te connotations and makes little sense for Si, whereas the field functions all seem to emphasize networks of effects over sequences of behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igxfl View Post
    @EyesSeeCold:

    How about, instead of "Results in/over space/time," go with "Effects in/over space/time." Results seems to have Te connotations and makes little sense for Si, whereas the field functions all seem to emphasize networks of effects over sequences of behavior.
    Yea "Effect" makes more sense.

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    - Space
    - Time
    - Matter
    - Energy

    I like these, but this view is highly limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    What does this mean? For example, if I see that someone uses actively all the time and seems to avoid using , I can conclude that they are probably an ego type. It's key to define what "using " means here.
    but how are you going to say this without using words that try to say it because your and may not be that of someone else. so it says nothing unless put it in other words. but if you put it in other words, then you are missing the key concepts and stereotyping. so all be damned.

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    Well, it does first become necessary to properly define the IM elements/aspects. How to do that...

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