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    genes don't necessarily determine your characteristics. the interaction between genes and the environment plays a significant part.

    nature vs. nurture is a false dichotomy and genes are switched on and off by the environment you're placed in. oftentimes the environment can compensate for deficits.



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    Jesus.
    This is so depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    Jesus.
    This is so depressing.
    well the silver lining is that we can change how genes are expressed by making a better society.
    It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now.

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    This makes me think about this Stanford course, that I highly recommend... Sapolsky is just incredible:
    https://www.youtube.com/course?list=EC848F2368C90DDC3D

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    Jesus.
    This is so depressing.
    really? i thought it was too optimistic especially towards the end when they talked about societies without violence

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    I feel like a dichotomies inherent purpose is to highlight the gray area with the notation of black and white. I would say all dichotomies are false if this qualifies as false. Everyone knows both nurture and nature affect you.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it’s a disease, it’s nobody’s fault. Yay empiricism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    really? i thought it was too optimistic especially towards the end when they talked about societies without violence
    I think it made me sad that early childhood development can affect people in these spiraling ways throughout the course of their life. Of course this is common sense, but the fact that it affects you even genetically seems to be irrevocable.

    However, if you take all that as a given I do think that the video at large has more optimistic tendencies, especially the way the video is directed towards dealing with this phenomenon in a "big" way (not so focused on changing the lives of specific populations of individual people) and towards vaguely imagining an ideal. I think I liked that part though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerx View Post
    well the silver lining is that we can change how genes are expressed by making a better society.
    did you mean a better oligarchic dynasty that only us in the know are in on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    did you mean a better oligarchic dynasty that only us in the know are in on.
    yeah
    It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now.

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