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    Warsan Shire wrote a lot of the poetry for the Beyoncé Lemonade album. I'm 100% sure Shire is sp/sx...

    "If it's what you truly want ... I can wear her skin over mine. Her hair over mine. Her hands as gloves. Her teeth as confetti. Her scalp, a cap. Her sternum, my bedazzled cane. We can pose for a photograph, all three of us. Immortalized ... you and your perfect girl.

    I don't know when love became elusive. What I know is, no one I know has it. My father's arms around my mother's neck, fruit too ripe to eat. I think of lovers as trees ... growing to and from one another. Searching for the same light.

    Why can't you see me? Why can't you see me? Why can't you see me? Everyone else can."


    "So what are you gonna say at my funeral, now that you've killed me? Here lies the body of the love of my life, whose heart I broke without a gun to my head. Here lies the mother of my children, both living and dead. Rest in peace, my true love, who I took for granted. Most bomb p*ssy who, because of me, sleep evaded. Her god listening. Her heaven will be a love without betrayal. Ashes to ashes, dust to side chicks."


    "She sleeps all day. Dreams of you in both worlds. Tills the blood, in and out of uterus. Wakes up smelling of zinc, grief sedated by orgasm, orgasm heightened by grief. God was in the room when the man said to the woman, "I love you so much. Wrap your legs around me. Pull me in, pull me in, pull me in." Sometimes when he'd have her nipple in his mouth, she'd whisper, "Oh, my God." That, too, is a form of worship.

    Her hips grind, pestle and mortar, cinnamon and cloves. Whenever he pulls out ... loss. Dear moon, we blame you for floods ... for the flush of blood ... for men who are also wolves. We blame for the night for the dark, for the ghosts."


    "I tried to make a home out of you, but doors lead to trap doors, a stairway leads to nothing. Unknown women wander the hallways at night. Where do you go when you go quiet?

    You remind me of my father, a magician ... able to exist in two places at once. In the tradition of men in my blood, you come home at 3 a.m. and lie to me. What are you hiding?

    The past and the future merge to meet us here. What luck. What a f*cking curse."
    I swore I felt like I couldve written her monologues. Denial was my favorite.

    Grabbing photos from my tumblr, it all is very sp/sx.
    This is one of my recent favorites --






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    Quote Originally Posted by VOGUE PARIS View Post
    I swore I felt like I couldve written her monologues. Denial was my favorite.

    Grabbing photos from my tumblr, it all is very sp/sx.
    This is one of my recent favorites --






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    Funnily enough I actually met Warsan Shire a few years ago, and she was very friendly considering we'd just met.

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    Satine from Moulin rouge is most definitely sp/sx. I cringe in all the ways I related to her, and well.. even if I wasn't a courtesan in anyway, I dont think its a good thing lol. Perhaps it was Nicole Kidman's portray of Satine, she has a very detatched even icy presence even when she's seducing you. It's why the casting directors chose her over Courtney Love. In their words, Nicole was Ice (appearing Sp), Courtney was more fire (sx). I wish I could link the scenes where she's trying to seduce Christian (Ewan Mcgregor) the way she just turns on her Sx energy. I mean, it was played comical way because of the context. Even if she is aware of how to seduce crowds. she is in no way So. Besides wanting to be an actress, there is no interest in connecting with people. She has idealizations of reaching a higher version of herself. I think Christian may be Sx/so.







    I may get along, when love is gone
    Still, you made your mark, here in my heart

    I follow the night
    Can't stand the light
    When will will I begin
    My life again?

    One day I'll fly away
    Leave your love to yesterday
    What more can your love do fot me?
    When will love be through with me?
    Why live life from dream to dream
    And dread the day when dreaming ends



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    Quote Originally Posted by VOGUE PARIS View Post
    Satine from Moulin rouge is most definitely sp/sx. I cringe in all the ways I related to her, and well.. even if I wasn't a courtesan in anyway, I dont think its a good thing lol. Perhaps it was Nicole Kidman's portray of Satine, she has a very detatched even icy presence even when she's seducing you. It's why the casting directors chose her over Courtney Love. In their words, Nicole was Ice (appearing Sp), Courtney was more fire (sx). I wish I could link the scenes where she's trying to seduce Christian (Ewan Mcgregor) the way she just turns on her Sx energy. I mean, it was played comical way because of the context. Even if she is aware of how to seduce crowds. she is in no way So. Besides wanting to be an actress, there is no interest in connecting with people. She has idealizations of reaching a higher version of herself. I think Christian may be Sx/so.
    i type satine so/sx. she is way too focused on the crowd in her performances. her main concern is being an actress. that's the social focus. when i watched the movie last time i tried to type everyone's stacking and i think everyone's synflow (as well as the dynamics). both protagonists and antagonists. it's one of the (few) cases, though, where so/sx and sp/sx can appear very similar in their aims/issues/role in a narrative. so, that's interesting, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    i type satine so/sx. she is way too focused on the crowd in her performances. her main concern is being an actress. that's the social focus. when i watched the movie last time i tried to type everyone's stacking and i think everyone's synflow (as well as the dynamics). both protagonists and antagonists. it's one of the (few) cases, though, where so/sx and sp/sx can appear very similar in their aims/issues/role in a narrative. so, that's interesting, imo.
    That is quite interesting, have you thought of her socionics type. Perhaps her being fe valuing rather than social first?

    But also, we have to think about the fact that she IS an actress, by being a courtesan and being a performer. So I assumed that is why she had that social focus. I couldn't tell if it was Fe and knowing how to manipulate the crowd / people or what. I think what makes it hard is also, is she constantly acting for others for others sake, or is she constantly aware that this is how she can get by. And she goes by what she can do, to get by. In the song with Christian, I know she remarks that love is a game, and that could suggest a social drive and aware of social trickery. It's not like an SP person would choose the duke, just to live comfortably.

    But I suppose... if we compare her to Zidler, despite his social graces, he would be a SP first person. Do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VOGUE PARIS View Post
    That is quite interesting, have you thought of her socionics type. Perhaps her being fe valuing rather than social first?

    But also, we have to think about the fact that she IS an actress, by being a courtesan and being a performer. So I assumed that is why she had that social focus. I couldn't tell if it was Fe and knowing how to manipulate the crowd / people or what. I think what makes it hard is also, is she constantly acting for others for others sake, or is she constantly aware that this is how she can get by. And she goes by what she can do, to get by. In the song with Christian, I know she remarks that love is a game, and that could suggest a social drive and aware of social trickery. It's not like an SP person would choose the duke, just to live comfortably.

    But I suppose... if we compare her to Zidler, despite his social graces, he would be a SP first person. Do you think?
    i don't have an opinion on the characters sociotypes. however, the film is written by baz luhrmann (LSI) and craig pearce (IEI) and their films are usually crowded with beta characters (and actors). so, Fe-valuing is likely. christian could be beta NF (EIE?) actually.
    imo, zidler is so/sx as well. christian is an obvious sx/sp and the duke is sp/so ...

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    I agree with Satine being Sp/Sx.

    She's 4w3, and her 3 wing makes her seem more superficially "Social" than she really is.

    She cares more about diamonds > social reputation.
    She's playing the crowd just in order to get her Sp needs met; it's all just a mirage. She's an entertainer in the stereotypical Type 3 way, but she doesn't truly care about society or social connections much at all.

    Also, an So/Sx would feel great shame over being a prostitute, for social reputation matters more to them than being rich; an So/Sx person would be careful about getting involved in something that society at large frowns upon; and if they ever did, they'd hide and not celebrate it – doing the latter is more commonly a contraflow thing.

    Satine is quite practical about the whole affair (until she falls for the SX first Christian); and even before she falls in love with Christian, she repeatedly mentions how a girl has to take care of herself, get the money, etc. So/Sx being Sp blindspot is rather oblivious or negligent of those matters.

    I'd also say that Christian is rather Sx/So. In contrast to Satine, it becomes obvious how much he lacks the grounded focus of SP; he doesn't concern himself with money or practical matters, he's very much "head in the clouds". And he does yearn for social recognition and being part of a group, which Satine is not truly concerned with.
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    6w7 649/694 - @ashlesha you kind of look like her btw


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    i don't see it at all, but I don't mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    i don't see it at all, but I don't mind!
    you both have square ish faces if i dont remember incorrectly

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    Tai is such a caricature of a soc last person

    The character is probably 792. I can't tell if she's sx/sp or sp/sx.
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