Originally Posted by lifer
I never understood people who *don't* get lost on the way to the supermarket. That's Te? Interesting...
I never understood people who *don't* get lost on the way to the supermarket. That's Te? Interesting...
Hehehehehehe
Te = "to know"
She's ILI because she has a good sense of direction, and your boyfriend is ILI because he too has a good sense of direction, and ILI in general has a good sense of direction because your sister and your boyfriend are both ILI and they both have good senses of direction?
I'm actually starting to wonder if your sister might be LIE. My LIE bro has an IEI mom, and she kicked him out of the house when he was 18 because he was too "angry" and "violent"; he's actually not violent at all, and he rarely gets angry.
Te = "Explicit Object Dynamics", or "what things do"
He's a pseudo-aggressor and her supervisor. It probably made for a crazy, backwards relationship.
If he's LIE and not violent at all and rarely get angry, then why would my sister act violent and angry towards her mother, aunt, sister, boyfriend, and at least one other girl that resulted in her stepping out of a wedding (like not being in the wedding party at all) if she's LIE?
My best friend and coworker are LIE. I call them my "bestie bosses".
I wish I could give you all of the information that I know about her but conversations rarely work that way...
Last edited by IBTL; 03-18-2014 at 07:16 PM.
have you seen the video that we talked about? ILI is out of the question
you are just being passive aggressive out of personal reasons
who are you to decide what is shitty and what is not?
No idea about the interview guy but I read the stereotypical SLE guy as EIE, if he would be easily typed SLE for what would we need new Socionics insights in the first place when there is nothing to get?
I knew something was bothering me, one of many points.Seriously though, listen to the exchange @ 00:35
The dude sitting across from her is criticizing her the entire time.
ILIs are Ni dominant so they are about what makes sense and not like you describe it here.
well I disagree on the Se part - could be Ne at least there is too much intuition going on there
Last edited by Zero11; 03-18-2014 at 07:37 PM.
not really, i like Kenneth Chesney/JoBlo. i was making a point about how generalizations are stupid and i've typed many artistically inclined people not-IEI.
i don't speak for anyone but myself :s shitty for me, not anyone else. you're pretty Fe-valuing for an ILI.
I am just unusual active on the topic of interest on the internet which usually never comes out this way. Very non-strategically defensive against all the unfair Fe here with the head first.
you're dead right, there is a lot of Fe around these parts
How do you read him as EIE?
For sure dude, he is giving her shit the entire time. I think she hit his Fi-PoLR when she said, "my dad said he was proud of you" and he responded with "well I didn't have a dad". He then says, "I like your dress" to her, and she has no idea what he means.
Where do you see intuition? Just in the fact that she did so well on the LSAT?
Absolutely. I think he still harbors a great deal of resentment toward her, and I think he projects that resentment onto other people. He's awesome though; he can be a major dick but most of the time it's really funny.
Because in my friend's mom's mind, he is violent and angry, but in my mind, he is neither. It's all about perception.
That's because LIE is the shit. They are an unbelievably capable type; they can get anything done, and they do a damn good job.
omg I'd love it if you provided more information. By the way, are you sure you aren't EII? You seem good-natured and not-annoying; I've found IEI to be good-natured but extremely annoying (like Maritsa)
He wasn't giving her shit. There was obviously some hidden communications going on between them. Initially I thought a mutual attraction while trying to keep some distance due to her young age. Why would her father feel proud for a complete stranger? Obviously he's not a complete stranger and her and her father consider him at least a potentially close acquaintance. He may have been rebuffing her, but he wasn't giving her shit. He and the other lady are both concerned for her for her sudden success, gently raising warning signals to her and testing out how well she might be able to handle the problems they foresee.
Lol, but then there's also the possibility that she had thrown a fit of some kind off stage (possibly about a dress/outfit?? lol) and they were being cautious and distancing themselves while being civil. But this doesn't explain the father's pride in the guy.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
lol, you're blind
take a look:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nufauu3m4z...ctors%2001.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ie05bszse...ctors%2002.jpg
I just thought they were communicating Fe to FeFor sure dude, he is giving her shit the entire time. I think she hit his Fi-PoLR when she said, "my dad said he was proud of you" and he responded with "well I didn't have a dad". He then says, "I like your dress" to her, and she has no idea what he means.
She looks a bit like Tori Spelling and well I associate Sensation more with few stuff to interpret on and she changed much on the pictures.Where do you see intuition? Just in the fact that she did so well on the LSAT?
Last edited by Zero11; 05-02-2014 at 07:30 AM.
All this shows me is that you've got a bunch of actors typed EIE.
The tone of his voice, his posture, and the look in his eyes all suggest to me that he feels immensely disdainful toward her, and I think she can sense that. When he says, "how sweet, I didn't have a dad and now I have yours to feel proud of me", he's being sarcastic. That was a very biting comment, and you can see her shake her head in frustration at it, as if to say, "what am I doing wrong?"
I suspect you're oblivious.
Just from a simple search so far,
The man has promoted her app which contains her writings: http://www.refinery29.com/2014/01/61...ite-apps-songs
And tweeted out about her Royals video before it became popular:http://www.3news.co.nz/Jared-Leto-on...3/Default.aspx
This is far from disdain towards her.
Why would you think he disdains her? What is it about her that you think he can't stand?
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
so fucking what? it's called "business"
and of course you would look for some external evidence of positive relations between them, you being LII and all
HER
He has no reason to promote her. He got no benefits from it.
According to you, he took one look at her when they first met and immediately disdained her for no reason?
Btw, Looking for external evidence is a Te thing, which is IEE's hidden agenda and mobilizing function, and is LII's ignoring function.
So...seeking external evidence via their actions (Te) regarding how they feel about each other (Fi).
I asked, i showed, you refused.
You fail at Te HA and Fi creative.
I suspect you are Ti/Fe valuing. Thank you for showing your thinking process so clearly in this thread.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
so are you like his agent or something?
oh, there's a reason; I just don't know what it is. All I can sense is how he feels.
No, Te is simply "what objects do". "Looking for external evidence" in general is NTR, but in your case you're "looking for external evidence of positive relations", and that is straight-up Fe.
For an "en-tee", you sure are dumb. I suggest you work on your self-awareness.
I'll tell you what: find your way to Michigan and I'll introduce you to Alonna, my female-SLE coworker. I'd love to watch you wriggle and squirm underneath her super-critical lens.
fucking wrong or should I say you took it too literally, such a Te description is just a useless non-existing one-functional being
I suspect you are Ti/Fe valuing. Thank you for showing your thinking process so clearly in this thread.
Are you suggesting that Lady Gaga is better than Lorde?
Lorde has a better vocal range and her song writing is actually quite sophisticated from what I can tell. Lady Gaga is vapid.
This coming from someone who doesn't particularly like either Gaga's or Lorde's music.
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To qualify as weird, an artiste should be original and individualistic. Lady Gaga is a huge phoney while Lorde is as great as a 17-year-old pop star can be.
I think people are overegging her level of uncomfortableness. Even 'extroverted' thirty year olds could look awkward in such circumstances, nevermind some sixteen\seventeen year old who is probably naturally introverted.
I love both Gaga and Lorde.They are really different obviously. But Gaga sounds amazing acoustic and on top of that you can really feel her emote when she sings.
That being said, I totally agree with comments on Lorde's level of awkwardness. I guess we're just not used to celebrities being as uncomfortable as normal people. And on top of that- she has amazing maturity/ presence for her age...
No, not at all. Just to clarify, I was saying artists are often popular just because they are weird, like Lady Gaga, who is just weird for the sake of it and has almost no talent.
I don't care much for either of their music myself. But, I do appreciate the vocal harmonies in the Lorde single.
her awkwardness isn't strange, she is 17 and going through the awkward teen stage
i noticed she looks like a younger vera stratievskaya in this picture: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...ievskaya,_Vera
Eh, I don't think Lorde has anywhere near the same sort of vocal control or dynamicism as Gaga. Have you heard Lorde sing live? Doesn't really match up to her recordings.
I can't stand her music and this thread is the first time I've seen her interviews...I'd say ESI-Se seems likely. She seems fairly healthy in her outlook and way more likable than Florence Welch.
I really don't think she's ESI, she seems far too logical. The only two possibilities for her in my mind are LII or SLE.
On first sight she seems SLE:
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But if you actually listen to her speak, she seems intuitive-y. Watching how positively she reacts to the crowd, how open she is with her emotions, it's difficult to imagine her as an Fi-ego. She seems so... merry.
Gaze? Yes. Countenance? No.
She is articulate, she possesses good diction, and she doesn't talk about her sensations.
Her reactions seemed pretty natural to me, and she definitely strikes me as a Merry type.
What is your justification for ESI? How is she Se-ESI and not Fi-ESI?
I don't think a "soft gaze" suggests an F-type, especially if we're talking about ESI:
I know plenty of college-educated people who aren't half as articulate as her.
Talking about colors, textures, smells, sights, sounds, etc. Talking about things related to colors, textures, smells, sights, sounds, etc.
So what exactly does Se-ESI look like? How about Fi-ESI?
On an unrelated note: are you sure you're LIE? The way you broke my post into parts seems to suggest an analytical nature for you.
Last edited by Olduvai; 04-16-2014 at 07:00 AM.
Sorry, but I think this is bullshit. I can't make an argument against it because I suck at logic, but it just isn't correct in my mind.
Or maybe she's intuitive.
No, I just associate Se with "sensations".
That's the last place I'd go to meet my visual identification needs.
I thought LIE was a synthetic type?
i'm going to hate myself for asking this, but whats the link between socionics intuition and being articulate? @Chris Clearly
there's no "official" link, but in my experience a "way with words" usually means "intuitive"
@Chris Clearly Nonsense.
@Suedehead Sense.
Holographic cognition often utilizes the grammatical conjunctives: "or-or", "either-or", "on the one hand, on the other hand".
That still doesn't mean that "soft gaze" equals "feeler".
Nah, I think intuitives are generally more verbally fluent than sensors, and my reason for believing is because I've seen it.
Then you must not be seeing Se people.
Holographic cognition often utilizes the grammatical conjunctives: "or-or", "either-or", "on the one hand, on the other hand".
But none of those people are ESI.
Aren't the workings of the mind really just the actions of the body?
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