Are all SEIs-ISFps cute and bubbly?
While I can relate to the SEI description (especially SEI-Si), some of the surface stereotypes associated with the type on this forum just seem a bit...off. I experience myself as a bit more gloomy, emotionally turbulent, and at times, self-obsessed than the image of the SEI that many people seem to envision.
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All the descriptions seem limiting to me.
Edit: What are the "gloomy, emotionally turbulent, and at times, self-obsessed" types? Have you considered them?
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Ha, IEI apparently...Originally Posted by Aylen
All the descriptions seem limiting to me.
Edit: What are the "gloomy, emotionally turbulent, and at times, self-obsessed" types? Have you considered them?
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
The rapper Slug is an SEI who has those traits.
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
Are types defined by their personality or character?
oooh a door opens...
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...y-vs-character
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Aren't all descriptions a bit stereotypical and sometimes just plain shallow? The SEI descriptions seem superficial as if there was an assumption that when smn's outwardly nice it's a sure-fire way of knowing how the person feels inside... ekhm.
Then again if you really feel most of the time "gloomy, emotionally turbulent, and at times, self-obsessed" more than "if only we had good food and were nice to each other the world would be a better place" then maybe you are IEI>SEI... or SEI under severe stress?
In the end you are the one to know which description IEI or SEI you identify with more and which quadra values are closer to you. How does the interaction go? You might have a lot in common with IEIs and SEIs but you'll probably feel more "at home" and more easily understood by people typed as either IEIs or SEIs...?
no, their more typical appearance is kind of brooding. they are negativist introverts and you tend to notice it.
IEIs are sometimes very bubbly; their Fe can be too sweet and syrupy.
Richard, my s.o. is SiFe. He's neither "cute and bubbly" (except when alone with me at home), nor emotionally turmoiled or self-obsessed. When people initially meet him, he is quiet, they're lucky if he says anything at all, and it takes him being around them many times before he'll finally start talking....which means one or two comments. One couple we knew felt it was an honor when he finally joined in a conversation with him. We'd known them for almost a year before that point. But when we are alone, he makes a lot of jokes primarily by using quotes from shows/movies. And it seems only I and a small handful of close people get to see his softer, cuter sides. It's almost sad that more people don't get to see him for how he is when he's not in a social situation, his humor and his caringness.
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I'm a bit of both, although food wouldn't be the first thing to come to mind.The gloomy/emotionally turbulent/self-obsessed aspect of my personality isn't really something that I show in social interaction (I usually just seem relatively plain, calm and courteous), but it's certainly something that I identify with in private or within my inner world.
SEI's seem more familiar overall..
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I have been told my emotional states change so rapidly that it is hard to keep up. Just when you join me in my gloomy, "I'm only happy when it rains" state, I will turn it into, "pour some sugar on me". It tends to leave those who shift emotions slower scratching their heads. I used to expect others to keep up but I don't anymore. It is what it is...
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
well my brother is SEI-Si and he´s not fluffy, warm and bubbly at all. Not turbulent, either. Just very reserved, sometimes too much so imo and often appreciative of "normal" behavior (+Alpha Fe). However he likes things that can twist and turn his perspective, get him out of a mental rut he may be in. I´m doing my best, but I´m sure there´s better than that. He´s also into movies, actually he´s 4 years younger than me and there´s still some stuff that I discovered through him, although we have different tastes when it comes to directors. Dunno where the stereotype of "SEI and cooking" comes from, cause he def doesn´t. Oh he likes food all right, but he prefers to spend his time watching documentaries, for instance. Maybe he´s more attuned to his "dual-seeking function" than other SEIs.
Sounds SEI to me.well my brother is SEI-Si and he´s not fluffy, warm and bubbly at all. Not turbulent, either. Just very reserved, sometimes too much so imo and often appreciative of "normal" behavior (+Alpha Fe). However he likes things that can twist and turn his perspective, get him out of a mental rut he may be in. I´m doing my best, but I´m sure there´s better than that. He´s also into movies, actually he´s 4 years younger than me and there´s still some stuff that I discovered through him, although we have different tastes when it comes to directors. Dunno where the stereotype of "SEI and cooking" comes from, cause he def doesn´t
I also don't know where the cooking stereotype comes from. I love good food, but spending my time in the kitchen seems usually a waste of time. I can do it and usually my improvisations taste good, but having to cook every day feels a chore. I'd rather read, learn, watch a film (classic Hollywood musicals and movies, documentaries, also just actions, thrillers, drama, anything's better than being forced to serve everyone as "the cook" when the rest of the people are having fun and enjoying their company)... go for a walk, create sth with my hands, write... cooking is the last on my list. Eating on the other hand... I get irritable and even angry when really hungry and I do love various tastes and good food.
Take me to a restaurant with good food, to the cinema for an action film or something about love and a walk to the seashore and that's good. Don't make me stuck in the kitchen as I'll despise it. There actually was a guy who liked me and whom I really liked up until a point when he (half-jokingly) said in front of other people that I should bake him a cake. LOL That was that. (It's like my life with him flashed in front of my eyes then and I just was like "hell, no!" - in my thoughts). Never wanted someone who'd expect me to "win him over" through cooking. But, hey, maybe I'm weird.
The people I know who enjoy cooking the most are/were: one ILI (female; treats it like a "challenge" to recreate a dish tasting better than in restaurant; the other ILI I know hates cooking), one IEI (male, as a sign of being self-sufficient; the other IEI I knew - female, doesn't really cook but is married to a SLE cook) and one elderly LSE (female, enjoys feeding everrryoneee).
Oh, there was one SEI/ESE female I knew who liked to cook I think - she baked the best cakes.
I'd rather marry a cook (if I were single) than become oneHaving to cook every single day would be sth that'd completely spoil the joy that I sometimes get from doing it... and in the periods of time when I'm forced to do this I tend to get irritable
So all in all I'd say cooking imo isn't really type-related...
Yeah, the cooking/caregiver stereotype doesn't hold true for me either...although I can be kind/generous in other, more subtle ways.
Basically, I agree with most all of the stuff in this thread??
I definitely come off gloomy or upset, and I often with zone out and stare at something very intensely and people think I'm mad at them when I'm just thinking OTL Also, no one ever really sits besides me or talks to me in class?? Like, they think I'm gonna bite them or something, but really I'm probably acting uninterested because I'm anxious of what social norm to follow or something (I really do like to talk and be friendly though!) :/
When I do finally open up, I've heard descriptions that basically fit the stereotype: "cute" "sweet" "bubbly" etc
Soooo I think overall there's a lot more depth to SEIs than stereotype allows, and you shouldn't take the type out as an option just because of that c:
I do this too but I am usually staring at nothing in particular when I do it. People have asked me where I go. I don't even know how to respond to that. It is hard to explain. I am kind of tuning into other "frequencies".
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I tend to find them all murderous and conniving.
Despite my superficial 'seriousness', I definitely prefer an inconsequential, 'merry', Fe social-environment (Beta/Alpha) over a Fi-one...
The cooking stereotype comes from the fact that ILE's tend to starve themselves because they're too lazy/occupied to bother to cook, even though they love food, as long as some one else prepares it. <- stereotype ILE
The dual's only reason for existing is to help the ILE over come his weaknesses. Well, the only weakness a ILE has is that he'll starve.. so SEI's are cooks! <- stereotype SEI
Ofc there are lots of ILE who will cook and lots of SEI who won't and such. I love cooking, but only for or with others. If i'm left to my own devices i'll fitt the stereotype nicely.
The SEI = cook is a bit too much reasoning from type to behaviour which i'm quite sure isn't valid... I mean, there are more than just 16 different "types" of people behaviourally even though there are only 16 types socionics wise. (no, get your enneagram/npa theories away from my magic and cook me some shit!)
Edit: About communication; I tend to be quite open with my opinions/feelings/moods/quirks etc. I'll cencure if necessary but try to minimize this. I'm probably more outspoken about emotions than many ILE's so on the subject of that stereotype there is variation too. I do think i'm like...rational about my feelings, like telling people "I feel this way, probably due to x" (where x can be either a situation or a explanation of why my chemicals are imbalanced). I cry easily though, most drama movies can jerk tears, so do beautifull songs and even sappy talent shows.
that is (unfortunately
hmm... maybe I should've found myself a nice cooking-loving SEI male then...The dual's only reason for existing is to help the ILE over come his weaknesses. Well, the only weakness a ILE has is that he'll starve.. so SEI's are cooks! <- stereotype SEI
yeah.The SEI = cook is a bit too much reasoning from type to behaviour which i'm quite sure isn't valid... I mean, there are more than just 16 different "types" of people behaviourally even though there are only 16 types socionics wise. (no, get your enneagram/npa theories away from my magic and cook me some shit!)
my SO is more reserved, but when he does talk about feelings he tends to do this the way you described (esp. bolded part). The overall description sounds very similar to how I act though... that is - when I do open up to the chosen few.Edit: About communication; I tend to be quite open with my opinions/feelings/moods/quirks etc. I'll cencure if necessary but try to minimize this. I'm probably more outspoken about emotions than many ILE's so on the subject of that stereotype there is variation too. I do think i'm like...rational about my feelings, like telling people "I feel this way, probably due to x" (where x can be either a situation or a explanation of why my chemicals are imbalanced). I cry easily though, most drama movies can jerk tears, so do beautifull songs and even sappy talent shows.
out of curiosity:
Yeah, I was raised in a role reversed environment where my dad is generally nurturing and caregiving while my mother is more business oriented, very cerebral and somewhat emotionally off (not intentionally but she just has kind of a standoffish vibe). I think this in general made me less inclined to identify with gender identity (to the point where my interests are more similar to many women i know than to most men. Also I kinda copied my dads relationship style, so i'm a bit more submissive and caregiving than most of my male friends.
[spoiler=mini ramble to RefiI remember reading about role inversion in family - I think I saw you posting sth like this somewhere. I know in my family there was role-inversion from stereotype. My mum was more stereotypically "male" (ILI) and my dad "female" (ESI). (There's still an ongoing banter between them regarding my mum having a "masculine" character.
When I read SEI and ILE stereotypical descriptions I feel like I'm a mix of both and I can't "blame" it on duality, cause I was already like this before I met my SO. If anything I feel more SEIish now than I did prior to our relationship, cause he values Fe, values Si and those weren't (especially Fe) the qualities sought after in my family and not really sth that I used to consider "safe" to show...
How do you personally feel towards the ILE stereotype?[/spoiler]
As for the ILE stereotype; it describes me perfectly for my highs and very imperfectly for my lows. When i'm happy, unrestricted and in a nice comforting environment (or when i'm in a crisis) it fits like a glove. I have the quirkyness of Ne, professionally my Ti is my most valued contribution, I tend to enjoy Fe but not create it (although i'll amplify it) and my Fi is usually not apparent (or it's mostly invisible due to my Ti+Ne sense of humor that generally provokes Fi types). My cousin, who's close to me, described me once as a "planter". I love to shoot ideas into the world, inspire and rouse people but i'm never there when the ideas need to be implemented. That kinda fits the stereotype perfectly ;-)
In my lows i'm moody, hyperemotional and manipulative. I'd say Ni and Fi are most visible in the sense that i appear as kinda the prophet of doom which predicts (quite accurately) what is going wrong without seeing what is going right and who can see and hit people's inner deamons and dark-spots. It shouldn't be surprising than, that as a new member, I thought I was IEI
So basically, ILE stereotype of wacky playfully rebellious conman fits me when i'm happy while I go into the brooding manipulative IEI stereotype when i'm unhappy. Kinda worst of both worlds ;-)
Edit: i think the SEI stereotype is the reason I am not able to identify SEI's. The stereo-type doesn't sound exciting to me, and...how can one meet people who lock themselves up in their kitchen, only cooking!?!?!?!?!
I still kinda seem to have a blind spot for SEIs, only meeting obvious IEI's, EIE's and ESI's (I kinda have the ethical part down it seems
Edit2: I checked the beskova description (http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...NTp-by-Beskova) to see how acurate it is. It is pretty spot on on most things.
The only things i'm not really sure of are
I'm generally loyal and IF i like someone likely to stay interested for a long time.And, more likely, he will lose interest in her after the first date.
eh, i actually don't know how to make money, it just generally happens. This is an effect of priviledged upbringing combined with extrordinary luck and a very strong external locus of control, I generally wait for my bank accounts to replenish themselves, and they usually do!Still, ILE man knows how to make money,
to everything else i'd have to say "yes, but only when i'm happy".
I'd say the IEE stereotype is what i'd like to be based on beskova's descriptions. Maybe because it's a mix of ILE and IEI extremes and seems like such a nice way of living and being liked and such.
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Si types are described as have a strong understanding of sensations. A commonly cited corollary is the ability to fill in incomplete sensations based on scant information.
If a strong function implies a more nuanced understanding, and if we were to make the reasonable claim that creativity gains in proportion to the strength of its associated cognitive area, and if we were to assume that types will gravitate to areas of strength, then it stands to reason that one type will find greater representation in a field contingent on the purity of the field with respect to the area of cognition in question.
It is this association between food and the understanding of bodily sensations that provides the theoretical basis for the overzealous correlation of the two.
Cooking, however, is not a pure, linear application of the understanding of bodily sensations and can be approached from different directions. Not being a cook I wouldn't know, but cooking appears to require creative insight that is independent -- though not entirely -- of the classificatory scope of Socionics. I would, therefore, call it reasonable to question the extent to which cooking is solely or the sole domain of any one type.
@Reficulris if I were to type myself strictly from Beskova's female Alpha's descriptions then it'd mean I'm a LII... I considered it for a while, but don't think I am...
Obviously you need to just look around and find the people who look like they're uninterested, unfriendly, and don't want to talk to anyone....and then go talk to them anyway. If they're SEI they'll probably smile and won't be able to turn down a conversation because of social expectations and fear of being rude (Fe??). Tada! Problem solved hahaEdit: i think the SEI stereotype is the reason I am not able to identify SEI's. The stereo-type doesn't sound exciting to me, and...how can one meet people who lock themselves up in their kitchen, only cooking!?!?!?!?!
I still kinda seem to have a blind spot for SEIs, only meeting obvious IEI's, EIE's and ESI's (I kinda have the ethical part down it seems
As for the whole cooking preference discussion @aisa @Reficulris, I can agree with what you're saying on a lot of points. I enjoy good food, and I can find baking or cooking therapeutic at times (if the kitchen is clean and it's a simple recipe etc etc), but there are sometimes where I'd rather not have to cook. Usually this is when I'm by myself (lazzzyyy). Like....who wants to cook an impressive meal for one?? Not me, really :/ I'd rather whip up something special and tasty for my friends or family so that we can all sit down and enjoy it. It's all about helping create the merry, comfortable Fe-valuing group atmosphere that Alphas enjoy so much c: Plus I usually get praised or complimented, which is always nice, and I get to 'help' others in a sense c:
Overall though, cooking is rarely fun if it's just for the sake of cooking. And that's coming from someone who would consider cooking and baking to be among their interests.
hahahah I love how you put it
yeah, I don't even do that. I wish I'd do that and out of guilt/pressure/it being a societal expectation at times - I might, but it does not come natural to me...As for the whole cooking preference discussion @aisa @Reficulris, I can agree with what you're saying on a lot of points. I enjoy good food, and I can find baking or cooking therapeutic at times (if the kitchen is clean and it's a simple recipe etc etc), but there are sometimes where I'd rather not have to cook. Usually this is when I'm by myself (lazzzyyy). Like....who wants to cook an impressive meal for one?? Not me, really :/ I'd rather whip up something special and tasty for my friends or family so that we can all sit down and enjoy it. It's all about helping create the merry, comfortable Fe-valuing group atmosphere that Alphas enjoy so much c: Plus I usually get praised or complimented, which is always nice, and I get to 'help' others in a sense c:
Buying crisps and cookies is pretty much what would be more or less natural to me.
And sad part is I really can cook.
Visit me. Pls. I'll listen to you and provide wine. Just bring that fooood!Overall though, cooking is rarely fun if it's just for the sake of cooking. And that's coming from someone who would consider cooking and baking to be among their interests.
Ah, well personality theory can't dictate individual preferences right? I think it's just a common way of contributing to the group dynamic, but it doesn't have to be the only way c:
Haha I get that request a lot actually xD The offer of wine is tempting though....Maybe throw in some party games or a movie??
I meant to comment on this earlier, but got carried off talking about other things :'D
The ILE I know actually went to culinary school and worked as a line chef for a few summers. But now he doesn't cook at home anymore? It's like he got bored of it because he thinks he's more or less mastered it. And he can cooks well, but more often than not he'll just experiment in the kitchen instead of using a recipe and gets a little carried away....the results are either delicious or disastrous, and never the same twice xD
My boyfriend is a grumpy curdmugeon. He's also a type 4 in enneagram, so that might be part of it. He exemplifies the negativist.
yeah... I do actually cook when friends come round and usually prepare wayyy to much food (last time we ended up inviting my parents over the next day cause we had so much food we could host a second meet up
But... I dislike how being stuck in the kitchen actually disconnects from people who are there and that's why basically catering seems a better idea, lol. If only it weren't costly...
When I read this part of ISFp description it really rang true a while back (I'm quoting from memory it went sth along those lines with regard to the general sense):
ISFp will take a considerable amount of time to plan and execute a party, will cook and take care of the guests and puts a lot of effort into creating a "perfect" atmosphere. That's why an ISFp will rarely agree to hosting such events as it's a big "endeavour" to them.also...While in contrast to ISFp an ESFj is capable of quickly hosting a meeting and inviting people to their household to drop in on the spot. Always can esily come up with a party.
Scrabble and "As Good As It Gets" - for starters?Haha I get that request a lot actually xD The offer of wine is tempting though....Maybe throw in some party games or a movie??
I don't think she's INTP. Most INTPs I know care little about relationships, or rather, they care privately but wouldn't blog about it. Her writing style makes me think she's a feeling type that's just highly fond of intelectual persuits. Maybe she fell into the MBTI "feelers don't think" trap?@Reficulris if I were to type myself strictly from Beskova's female Alpha's descriptions then it'd mean I'm a LII... I considered it for a while, but don't think I am...
Also, she quotes DJA in one of those posts..this kinda is a strike against her being logical ;-)
Finally, her posts reflect a common problem and complaint by most attractive women. I don't think this is type related, I think it's experience related. If you're getting hit on by leacherous men all the time and the only guys that don't treat you like a goddess are the jerks this shapes a certain....pickiness and maybe fatalistic expectation of romance ;-) Not sure an INTP would be overtly iritated by PUA's or creeps, they tend to ignore and or scare away crap that they don't like rather than complain about it.
(I thought LII was INTJ?)
I have an open kitchen and cooking for friends usually involves them trying to coach me through the process while I'm stealing as much of the ingredients to eat sneakily, like a kid! This is much more fun than "being in the kitchen"!yeah... I do actually cook when friends come round and usually prepare wayyy to much food (last time we ended up inviting my parents over the next day cause we had so much food we could host a second meet up
But... I dislike how being stuck in the kitchen actually disconnects from people who are there and that's why basically catering seems a better idea, lol. If only it weren't costly...
When I read this part of ISFp description it really rang true a while back (I'm quoting from memory it went sth along those lines with regard to the general sense):
Oh, and yeah, such an environment would trigger your bullshit receptors and make you rebelious ;-) one thing to think about; in rebelling against the stereotype you're kinda also falling pray to the stereotype! "Women have too cook" becomes "I should not cook because i'm a women" which is kinda...sad because one of the cool things about modern society is that we can pick and choose what things we like and dislike and stereotypes be damned!!
What i'm trying to say, is sometimes you can cook and still be a strong modern woman!
Edit: Wine food and games!? I'm coming over!
yeah, when I was writing that I thought how an open kitchen could change things at this respect...
But still I'm not opting for an open kitchen, cause I enjoy being able to hide the mess behind closed doors after I prepared everything...?)
true, I caught myself a while ago thinking that it is actually kind of ridiculous in the reversed way but it works exactly like you saidOh, and yeah, such an environment would trigger your bullshit receptors and make you rebelious ;-) one thing to think about; in rebelling against the stereotype you're kinda also falling pray to the stereotype! "Women have too cook" becomes "I should not cook because i'm a women" which is kinda...sad because one of the cool things about modern society is that we can pick and choose what things we like and dislike and stereotypes be damned!!
I know... it's growing on me ...as long as I don't feel pressured.What i'm trying to say, is sometimes you can cook and still be a strong modern woman!
obviously one of the ways for Alphas to have funEdit: Wine food and games!? I'm coming over!
only if you don't use enough garlic, garlic will drown out the onion smell always! ;-)yeah, when I was writing that I thought how an open kitchen could change things at this respect...
But still I'm not opting for an open kitchen, cause I enjoy being able to hide the mess behind closed doors after I prepared everything...
Yeah, but than, being pressured to do anything is a surefire way to lose interest. Pressure sucks!true, I caught myself a while ago thinking that it is actually kind of ridiculous in the reversed way but it works exactly like you said
I know... it's growing on me ...as long as I don't feel pressured.
Actually, i'm not having enough of this lately. It seems that somehow all my wine+food+games events kinda get the "posh food to impress guests, pressure to clean house and too many serious couples" vibe. I'm thinking it's because i'm getting old and/or my friends are all getting delta/gamma partners :'( My boardgames are collecting dust and I find myself restraining myself in asking people to play because "that's childish". :'( Somehow somewhere there's someone in my head telling me alpha NT just isn't cool ;-)obviously one of the ways for Alphas to have fun
Edit: It's either my Ex of @Absurd ;-) (maybe they're the same person... O_0)
You could be IEI but I don't thinks so. IEI's are not just self-obsessed gloomy SEI clones, they're also seers, masochists and intelectual artists rather than worldly artists. There's a lot wrong with the stereotypes (the first thing, them being stereotype) but to me your interaction style suggests SEI over IEI. Also, your avatar is kinda...sensing, IEI's go for abstract/fantasy (how joy how I love using stereotypes) where this one kinda reflects an earthly connection to the untethered world of raw nature and solitary masculinity. I think SEI's can have that, IEI's are more etherial, somewhat fragile in their presentation. (that's not to say they aren't strong or dangerous, its just the presentation ;-) )
hahaha true!
+10 yupYeah, but than, being pressured to do anything is a surefire way to lose interest. Pressure sucks!
hmm yeah, our circle of friends is mostly Alphas/Betas so it's more relaxedActually, i'm not having enough of this lately. It seems that somehow all my wine+food+games events kinda get the "posh food to impress guests, pressure to clean house and too many serious couples" vibe. I'm thinking it's because i'm getting old and/or my friends are all getting delta/gamma partners :'( My boardgames are collecting dust and I find myself restraining myself in asking people to play because "that's childish". :'( Somehow somewhere there's someone in my head telling me alpha NT just isn't cool ;-)
with Gammas it feels like they're looking down on me, waiting for me to finally become a proper adult...
with Deltas it's like they find the "childishness" somwehat endearing and/or in need of their help
re-bolded part - Alpha NT is great! They're funny, intelligent and creative, don't let anyone make you feel "off" just because they have a stick up their arse that they acquired as soon as they hit adulthood
lol I actually find @Absurd funny (at times hilarious).Edit: It's either my Ex of @Absurd ;-) (maybe they're the same person... O_0)
He is! He's terrifying as well!lol I actually find @Absurd funny (at times hilarious).
Ha, good point. I guess I feel like a really watered-down, judicious, sensory-focused IEI from an archetypal standpoint.
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