HSP - are you one?
There might be somewhat common for delta NFs, but I've seen them across the socion.
See
http://www.hsperson.com/pages/hsp.htm
or the popular huffpo article
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_4810794.html
Highly Sensitive People - HSP
HSP - are you one?
There might be somewhat common for delta NFs, but I've seen them across the socion.
See
http://www.hsperson.com/pages/hsp.htm
or the popular huffpo article
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_4810794.html
Some of it applies to me, but overall, no. I'm not emotionally sensitive at all, but I'm sensitive to certain types of sensory input, particularly tactile sensation. I can't touch certain fabrics, especially with my feet. I also get easily overwhelmed by many small tasks that seem like they all need to be done at once, or even just one particularly frustrating small task at the wrong time.
Fe, usually.
Delta NFs can be hilariously irritable, but sensitive crybaby victims is beta NF at its best.
But me? Nah.
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
I don't think HSP = crybaby. From what I've so far gathered it's more about a certain perception/reaction to the world, sometimes overstimulation. The reaction doesn't have to be extroverted, it may be internal.
A "crybaby" reaction would imho be more related to a particular person and the experiences that shaped them that way rather than their type.
Yeah, I usually score in the 20's.
I just read about this on Rick's blog today and I believe in "HSP". I am highly sensitive to everything in my environment. I have very acute sense of hearing and smell. I am allergic to water and sunlight. I get headaches so yeah I am a mess without medications to control allergies and stuff.
I often return to the concept of "highly sensitive people" and observe how these people systematically do not fit into socionic type and relation models. They might as well be a different ype, and can be divided into extraverts (roughly 1/4 of HSPs) and introverts (roughly 3/4). Most are intuitive types, but there are also some introverted sensers among them.
I really strongly doubt that an HSP IEI's ideal match will be any kind of SLE, though many aspects of the relationship may be comfortable and convenient. But an HSP is subject to some kinds of feelings and experiences (states of sensitivity, solitude, loneliness, restriction of sensory stimulation, etc.) to a much greater degree than non-HSPs, and will need to find others who can relate to this "deeper" level. If an HSP lacks a deeper sensitivity-based connection with his partner, he may experience loneliness and even alienation.
I find that HSPs tend to have a mixture of intuitive and sensing qualities and often logical and ethical qualities that perhaps make it less important to have a partner who is at the opposite end of these axes (particularly intuition/sensing).
I'm not sure these axes are even a good way to think about relationship compatibility anymore. One of the reasons they enjoy popularity it because they give people them something to think about before the relationship has occurred. It can actually be akin to voyeurism. By thinking about your compatibility or incompatibility (or that of other people) with someone before a relationship has actually begun, you can 1) fantasize about a relationship that does not yet exist, 2) fantasize about other people's relationship (this is more of a female thing), and 3) justify your own inaction in pursuing someone you are attracted to.
http://socionist.blogspot.com//
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
@Aylen this is an interesting quote you posted. It makes sense. It's a way of saying that people and their good/bad relations in the end depend on more than theoretical socionics compatibility.
Mmhmm, this just fits me... when I really think about it. I do tend to lead with intuition in everything I do though. It is an impulse to say things...while wondering why I am saying this... it is like I have to even if it seems out of place at the time then it makes sense later...Originally Posted by aisa
I am an island...I find that HSPs tend to have a mixture of intuitive and sensing qualities and often logical and ethical qualities that perhaps make it less important to have a partner who is at the opposite end of these axes (particularly intuition/sensing).
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
@Aylen there's always two sides to one coin - you can say you're an island (everyone is) or you can say that you don't need to rely on polarity in interpersonal relations as much as you otherwise would... glass half empty/glass half full...
No it doesn't make sense. It can be physiological more than psychological.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I don't think I am using the terms the same way people here are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory...rsensitivities
People suffering from over-responsivity might:
Dislike textures in fabrics, foods, grooming products or other materials found in daily living, to which most people would not react. This dislike interferes with normal function, for instance a child who refuses to wear socks or an adult who is so "picky" they can't go to restaurants with friends.
Get so car sick they refuse to be in a moving vehicle.
Refuse to kiss or hug, not because they don't like the person, but because the sensation of skin contact can be very negative.
Feel seriously discomforted, sick or threatened by normal sounds, lights, movements, smells, tastes, or even inner sensations such as heartbeat.
*Sensory processing disorder is not recognized as a mental disorder in any of the medical manuals, such as the ICD-10[21] or the DSM-5.[22]
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I am HSP and it is primarily physiological. I am sensitive to touch, to sound, to stimuli, I startle easily, but I'm also hypersentitive to other peoples moods, their energy.. and when I was a kid I was also hypersensitive emotionally. The physiological and the psychological may or may not be related. Im not sure, but my parents took me to specialists to find out what was wrong with me when I was an adolescent (my parents were both ST types) and my doctor told them I have an hyperactive autonomic nervous system, and proceeded to drug me with anti-anxiety medications that dulled my senses. When I didn't have insurance I used to dull my senses with alcohol, but luckily that stopped after a year and I got a job that gave me insurance. As I've gotten older Ive become less reliant on drugs and can generally control how I react to things (in some but not all circumstances).
The HSP concept is just a silly NF tittywank shoulder patting exercise.
"Before you call yourself too sensitive make sure that you are not indeed, around too many assholes."
Calling somebody 'too sensitive' is the oldest gaslighting trick in the book to abuse them. It's not that they're being sensitive, it's the other person is being an evil prick that needs to be beat up. So some clever businesswoman just changed the 'too' to 'highly' to make it sound like some positive label. It's a smart as hell marketing gimmick, but that doesn't mean it's real. Jesus Christ I wish people would see beyond the veil of money more, stupid idiots I want to strangle them. If you have found some benefit to this label that's good I guess but it doesn't stop it from being a snake oil salesman thing.
I am pretty sure we are using the term differently than others here are. They are talking about emotional sensitivity and we are talking more about physical. I have also seen specialists and taken Neuronton 600 mg 3x a day. I am especially sensitive to hot/cold extremes and most comfortable in temps between 72 and 78 F. I have" Photosensitivity" which was treated for a couple of years using a tanning bed. I started at 2 minutes once a week and worked up to 20 minutes every other day.That helped but I don't want to ruin my skin so I stopped. More than 5 minutes in the sun and I will be miserable for days because of the reaction my skin has. I cover up more than I use sunscreen cause I hate the feel of sunscreen unless it's a light spray.
In cold weather around 35 F I get an immediate earache when I go outside that hurts so bad I want to scream.I live in Florida now which isn't an issue here, except on some nights, but I stay in. Humidity is the problem here and it relates to my water allergy which may in part be psychological but therapy doesn't help so I am going to lump it in with my other "sensitivities". I have used medication in order to shower for many years. Before that I suffered every day. The tanning beds also helped my water allergy but I don't understand why.
I can hear and smell things way before others can. I can smell what my neighbors are cooking down the street or when someone starts a fire in the fireplace. I know this is real from every day feedback. I can walk by a flower and smell it and people have to go up to the flower to smell it, and I make them, to see what I mean. Some smells make me immediately nauseated and I have gotten sick by smelling something that would be considered a neutral smell to most. I do love the smell of gasoline for some reason and have since childhood. It doesn't make me sick when others say they hate it.
Sounds, this is where I get a little crazy. The sound of shuffling feet, a whisper that ends with a hissing sound,whistling unless it is on key, the sound of silverware being put away, someone singing off key...I could go on here....Can send me into a silent rage. I keep earbuds in, whenever I can, and use music to drown out other normal sounds. I can't explain it. I hum to myself if I hear something I don't like until the sound passes. I had a boyfriend who had a very strong heartbeat and in my ears it was amplified sometimes to the point that I could not sit near him because I would get agitated. I told him about it and he was not too empathetic. He said, "what do you want me to do, stop my heart?" Yeah there was nothing he could do so I should have kept my mouth shut but I swear his heartbeat would reverberate in my ears and whole body so I would sleep on the couch.
Touch, I didn't develop a sensitivity to touch until a few years ago and I believe it was due to anesthesia because after my surgeries I started experiencing an aversion to being touched because it really hurt so bad. I am less sensitive to a full hand touch than just a concentrated touch to a small area. The doctors quickly labeled it to fibromyalgia and that is all I know about that. I checked some forums and others have said they developed the same after surgery. Not to be gross but it doesn't surprise me that people can become sensitive when parts of their body are pulled out to work on another part, then put back in and they develop long term pain in response. Thing is my surgery saved my life so I can't complain. I just deal with it.
I am not a "crybaby" and even if my feelings are hurt I am unlikely to give someone the satisfaction of telling them.The way people use the term here is like an STD (socially transmitted disease). My condition has nothing to do with other people. It is all internal and not constant since it "flares" then will go dormant for awhile. The sound and smell thing is almost constant though.I just don't have the ability to deal with it on my own and I can't make sense of it all without some kind of medical explanation and even those do not feel right to me. There is way more to all this than any research can explain.; I didn't buy the book, btw (re:marketing scam mentioned above). It won't explain anything that I don't already know.Thanks for sharing your experience. Unless someone experiences these things themselves they will probably be skeptical. I don't wish it on anyone really other than fleeting thoughts when someone discounts my "condition". Then I wish they could experience it long enough to show them that they are clueless.
Edit: I get highly irritated with family and friends who have known me for years and continue to do things like leave the doors open on humid days, whistle, put away silverware when I am in the room....things like that. I just start thinking they are inconsiderate but today I realized that they just don't understand, i.e. clueless.
Last edited by Aylen; 04-16-2014 at 05:54 PM. Reason: spelling
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
@Aylen thanks for the link
I am an HSP and not a crybaby for a second.
Didn't read.
does it have to do with sensory overload or just being "emotionally" sensitive?
I get some sort of sensory overload when I'm in a massive crowd with a lot going on.
I can be touchy at times depending on the context... I do not like overly touchy people. I've learned I do not mesh well with them over time.
Sounds like something my EII friend would beI'm sure people are sensitive to different environmental stimuli, but unless it's really bad and it's seriously affecting their life, they should keep it to themselves. I'm very photosensitive and suffer terrible migraines, but I never bother other people with it. I just suffer in silence lol
I hate chronic complainers. You go to to the beach with them, and all you listen for five hours is how one is too hot, the other has tummy boo-boo and the third has sand in vagina
Uh huh.
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@McBain, this is different and actually interesting
Do you actually listen? If you actually listen does their problem go away?Sounds like something my EII friend would be
I hate chronic complainers. You go to to the beach with them, and all you listen for five hours is how one is too hot, the other has tummy boo-boo and the third has sand in vagina
It doesn't. I just don't understand people making the biggest deals of the smallest body sensations they're having. I highly doubt any of them would be diagnosed as a HSP.
Bitch to me about something juicy, not about your period . My LSE-Si friend is the absolute worst when it comes to this and she has had zero seriuous health problems in her life, in fact she's healthy as a fish.
@McBain, this is different and actually interesting
You mean I'm the lucky one...this year?
You were the chosen oneYou mean I'm the lucky one...this year?
Thank you for relieving this burden from my conscience.
Aw, I deleted it because I felt like you might still want to share yourself, but I am glad you were relieved and quoted it for posterity.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
I'm pretty sure you tell every guy that.You were the chosen one
May be.
Weird. It's worked for me before. Sometimes people find it much easier to complain if no-one is listening to them. But as soon as you listen to them they stop complaining
But yeah I suppose it doesn't work on everyone. Some people just like to talk about how demented they are.
Mcbain wants you to make him feel special.
...you lie...i'm...i'm sensitive...
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No.
Probably, but it's a little different for me. I'm sensitive at first, but once I become engrossed in what I'm sensitive to I tend to lose that sensitivity, maybe because at that point I've already accepted it psychologically. But maybe that's the difference, needing to deal with it psychologically to begin with; someone who isn't HSP probably doesn't have this dilemma?
I think I am just some other kind of highly sensitive person
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According to following video I'm a highly sensitive person, because I can relate to nearly all traits that are mentioned.
I'm too obvious of my body, environment and needs.
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