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    Exclamation What is your opinion of exclamation marks?

    Elmore Leonard said that "Keep your exclamation points under control. You are allowed no more than two or three per 100,000 words of prose. If you have a knack of playing with exclaimers the way Tom Wolfe does, you can throw them in by the handful."

    It is amazing to me that I can make significant judgements about a person who seems to have such an extreme view.

    I often read also that in the business world, the usage of exclamation marks is decidedly unprofessional, something which I don't particularly agree with but I suppose you generally have to live with the system.

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    i don't use and like them much and think people who rail against them are asses.

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    I tend not to use exclamation points in a sincere way to express an affect -- that is, to express enthusiasm, anger or any other raw emotion. I think that the content of what one writes ought to be enough to elicit what one wishes to convey. It almost seems like the exclamation point somehow detracts from that rawness -- it makes one feel detached from it. I use exclamations more as a stylistic device to accentuate some sort of witticism or something along those lines. Either way I don't really care what others do with them. Yet I feel that people like Elmore Leonard, who dictate how others ought to express themselves, have their heads up their asses -- in order to dislodge it perhaps they do in fact need something pointed like this!
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    I find that they can be absolutely vital to the harmony and rhythm of a piece of writing, or at least, they greatly emphasise the expression and meaning. Lengthy passages can be used to convey your thoughts but an exclamation mark can be key to representing your mood.

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    I over use them, then edit them out to seem more low key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enter Laughing View Post
    I find that they can be absolutely vital to the harmony and rhythm of a piece of writing, or at least, they greatly emphasise the expression and meaning. Lengthy passages can be used to convey your thoughts but an exclamation mark can be key to representing your mood.
    Yeah, I think it just really depends on form and context. A brunt, "FUCK YOU!!!!" is much more effective in an informal written setting like chat, text message and perhaps email -- than something like, "I am disinclined to agree with your opinion my dear sir due to the fact that I take umbrage at your lack of discipline and ill manners..." Given the context and form the latter just appears totally unsuitable. In a Victorian novel, the former would be less appropriate.

    Perhaps a further question: What forms of writing i.e. poetry, novels, chat, text message etc tend to be more appropriate or lend themselves for use of exclamation points and which do not?

    My off the cuff answer: I'd say none of them in and of themselves because there are so many takes and perspectives that have been and will be written down -- however, for my tastes poetry seems the least suitable.

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    Trying to make way through Gulag Archipelago after 70 pages of "And then he was shot! And she was jailed! Oh the injustice!! Oh the humanity!!!" I'm finding myself being mostly distracted and annoyed by the author's use of them. It's as if he's unsure of whether he can make sufficient emotional impact by his words alone and overcompensated for it by inserting these emotional spams and hiccups in the course of his writing. Yet in other instances they seem to be well placed, adding a poignant highlight to the text.

    So the short answer would be - it depends on writer's use.

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    I like them when they are used parodically.

    .... as in Alexander Pope´s The Rape of the Lock:

    So spoke the dame, but no applause ensued;
    Belinda frown’d, Thalestris call’d her prude.
    ‘To arms, to arms!’ the fierce virago cries,
    And swift as lightning to the combat flies.

    If this is about literature, I usually hold nothing against them when they are stylistically justified.

    In people´s language I can barely stand them. They are red flags for insincerity and cheap drama.
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    I try to only use them creatively, demonstratively, and responsibly.

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    In general it's not fun to read writings of people who take themselves too seriously, and Exclamation marks(!) are super serious. I find its best to use them as a curve ball, or when expressing a crude but sincere sentiment.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    I use them very sparingly so as to not over hype everything. Just too many time you see ! galore after whenever a pic of a cat or something is posted. It is extremely annoying. They greatly loose their meaning if they are overused. This is why I hate facebook.

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    I Like Them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    i used to use them a ton, and then over time i evolved to not using them to seem more chill and "together"

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    I never had a strong opinion on exclamation marks until I met someone who almost exclusively communicated in exclamation marks when they expressed their fervent feelings, which felt like being slapped in the face. I even remember a few people commenting on their usage because it seemed purposefully provocative after a while. It! looked! something! like! this! because! it! was! so!!! fucking! excessive!!! And it always just felt dramatic and invasive to me.
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    Seleted "really depends on the person" but also want a "depends on the situation" answer.
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    I hate exclamation marks because they mean I got detected and the enemy is about to call HQ for reinforcements.

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    I suppose maybe there is some kind of balance to be maintained. Too much seems excessive, too little, maybe too bland.

    But I say do what you want. If you love explamation marks, embrace it.

    I suppose they can seem unprofessional at times, but it also depends what profession you are in.

    I like how there is an exclamation mark on 'I have no real opinion on the matter!' And one that doesn't. Now you can't not have a real opinion if you choose one over the other. You would have to vote them both or neither.

    lol, but it's just very funny. love it.
    Last edited by aster; 01-14-2018 at 10:53 PM.

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