I enjoy debating with others for the fun of it, to expand their minds, but I am curious as to which I am using Te or Ti in my debates. Furthermore if you can spot if I am using Ni or Ne, Si or Se, that would help too. I will give you a recent example of methods I usually employ. This one involves homosexuality...now while I don't think the government should have no business regulating marriage I still feel the need to challenge the homosexual community to see if their arguments for equal marriage are foolproof. Some of them believe that homosexuals should be able to marry but believe incest should be outlawed.
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ME: So wait, should incest be allowed by your definition? I am just curious.
RACHAEL: Now, Tony, you're smarter than that
Incest has nothing to do with anything I've said. In fact, just as your insinuation of my being okay with incest just because I defined the word ignorance, I can easily say that you are comparing incest with homosexuality. However, since you asked, there are biological reasons that incest is a bad idea. It can lead to birth defects and congenital disorders. So, no, Tony, I am not ok with incest
ME: So if that is true Rachael then should people with genetic disorders that can be passed on (clef-lip, etc.) be able to pro-create? You're basically saying that people with any sort of birth defects in their family capable of passing this gene on are sub-human, are you not?
RACHAEL: Tony, I can't say whether people with genetic disorders should procreate, nor should I. It's not my choice to make.
No, I am not saying any sort of birth defects in a family are sub-human. Having a birth defect does not make anyone less human. I said incest can lead to birth defects & congenital disorders. It just increases the likelihood of a child getting a double-dose of one or more recessive genetic problems. It brings out the recessive genes. So, the more it happens down the line, it can cause problems. If you're arguing in favor of incest, then more power to you. To each his own. I was asked if I agree with it, & I don't, but I'm not going to say the bible told me not to.
ME: It's not your choice? You support homosexual marriage, do you not? Or is it because homosexuality is the big thing today and incest and polygamy may be tomorrow it's not your choice? People with certain genetic disorders can pass these on as well, causing birth defects of the same kind. I am not arguing in the favor of incest, I am just pointing out flaws within the pro-homosexuality's community's viewpoints. And this is certainly a flaw that should be addressed its reasoning.
RACHAEL: Homosexuality has nothing to do with incest, and it's not the big thing today. People have been gay prior to recent years, it just wasn't ok to talk about it. Even now, it's a struggle...clearly.
As for people w/ genetic disorders, I am well aware of the fact that you can pass them on. I was simply stating that incest is more likely to bring out those recessive genes. Yes, I support same sex unions. I support a woman's right to choose. I also support the decision of anyone that does not agree.....& I still do not support incest. You may continue to point out views that you see as flaws, but surely you can see that your points also have flaws.
ME: People have committed incest prior to recent years too. Where is my flaw in my reasoning? You just said you supported a bunch of stuff and did not address what I said to you.
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Eventually we agreed with each other and made peace. She basically thinks while she agrees with it she doesn't think it should be wrong and I suppose I missed that in the debate (though I never saw it). I employ these methods on a lot of people in debates which was not taught to me by academia but came naturally (which im stating not because I think I'm the shit but figuring out which I use naturally). Sometimes though I will make peace only because I see it as a sport and I don't want to damage relations between us. I like to make friends this way and enjoy when others can take these issues a little lighthearted but still intellectually stimulating.