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Thread: What socionics stuff do you see society as overrating the most?

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    Default What socionics stuff do you see society as overrating the most?

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    Last edited by kopyk; 11-03-2014 at 08:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath View Post
    They're all talk.
    How so?

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    Depends on where you live, the culture isn't the same all over the west (or east).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath View Post
    I say EXE. EXEs seem to get away with so much bs. They're all talk.
    You mean Nelson Mandela . Or Toni Morrison . Or Martin Luther King. Or Tarkovsky perhaps.
    Or just Bono and Aguilera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath View Post
    yeah just a bunch of big talkers the lot of em

    reminds me a bit of how some miners are risking their lives for paltry pay while some celeb douche gets millions oh well
    I´m sure with this one you were referring precisely to Toni Morrison

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    This forum? (And similar jungian based type systems?)

    The N elements.

    I'm constantly seeing individuals talking about N elements as if they are a superpower.
    "I can see right through people."
    "I just know, and I'm never ever wrong."
    "I don't need to explain why, just trust me, cuz I have N."

    When most often, these people are either projecting,
    or too lazy to use their brain for more than the first image that pops into their mind.

    Just like S elements are used as a means to an end, so too are N elements.
    Ni and Ne base/creative aren't the end-all-be-all of a conclusion.
    They are a part of drawing a conclusion,
    they add information to be considered,
    but they are not THE conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath View Post
    dunno who he is
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toni_Morrison

    Toni Morrison (born Chloe Ardelia Wofford;[1] February 18, 1931) is an American novelist, editor, and professor. Her novels are known for their epic themes, vivid dialogue, and richly detailed characters. Among her best known novels are The Bluest Eye, Sula, Song of Solomon and Beloved. She won the Pulitzer Prize in 1988 for Beloved and the Nobel Prize in 1993. On 29 May 2012, she received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise View Post
    This forum? (And similar jungian based type systems?)

    The N elements.

    I'm constantly seeing individuals talking about N elements as if they are a superpower.
    "I can see right through people."
    "I just know, and I'm never ever wrong."
    "I don't need to explain why, just trust me, cuz I have N."

    When most often, these people are either projecting,
    or too lazy to use their brain for more than the first image that pops into their mind.

    Just like S elements are used as a means to an end, so too are N elements.
    Ni and Ne base/creative aren't the end-all-be-all of a conclusion.
    They are a part of drawing a conclusion,
    they add information to be considered,
    but they are not THE conclusion.
    In my experience, Delta Ne is about "limits" on what is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath View Post
    ann, I was talking about society outside typology forums. but yeah, agree with what you said.

    Edit: Also if anyone wants to discuss what is overrated within typology communities, feel free to do so aswell.
    haha , he was on the list of the most useless forum members and prefers to overrate himself instead of looking up a name, but he´s talking about "society outside typology forum".

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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise View Post
    This forum? (And similar jungian based type systems?)

    The N elements.

    I'm constantly seeing individuals talking about N elements as if they are a superpower.
    "I can see right through people."
    "I just know, and I'm never ever wrong."
    "I don't need to explain why, just trust me, cuz I have N."

    When most often, these people are either projecting,
    or too lazy to use their brain for more than the first image that pops into their mind.

    Just like S elements are used as a means to an end, so too are N elements.
    Ni and Ne base/creative aren't the end-all-be-all of a conclusion.
    They are a part of drawing a conclusion,
    they add information to be considered,
    but they are not THE conclusion.
    Just for the record, most writers are Ns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Chesney View Post
    In my experience, Delta Ne is about "limits" on what is possible.
    If by "limits on what is possible" you mean that Delta Ne provides multiple perspectives and posibilities to which the Delta Ne individual most sort through to get to the underlying phenomena, then yes. But often there just isn't enough info available yet, and there's always the possibility of one's conclusions being wrong. Holographic cognitive style ftw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath View Post
    I say EXE. While XEIs are the most useless, pointless types, EXEs seem to get away with so much bs. They're all talk.
    I would answer this poll, but I don't really know what type you are ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    haha , he was on the list of the most useless forum members and prefers to overrate himself instead of looking up a name, but he´s talking about "society outside typology forum".
    To him, "society outside typology" is probably like a trip to the zoo, he can't afford to go, but oh boy are their beautifull creatures in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise View Post
    If by "limits on what is possible" you mean that Delta Ne provides multiple perspectives and posibilities to which the Delta Ne individual most sort through to get to the underlying phenomena, then yes. But often there just isn't enough info available yet, and there's always the possibility of one's conclusions being wrong. Holographic cognitive style ftw!
    I generate "reasonable possibilities" or "natural explanations" by immediately finding "limits"; EII "tests" every possibility and finds their "limits" only after "going through the process"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath View Post
    Base your answer on your own experience, then, FDG. Alternatively you can decide on how you see history as a whole... Or combine those two approaches.
    If they manage to curb their self-destructive tendencies, Se dominant types seem to be quickly rise as being considered "the shit" by a whole lot of people. So from my experience they're the most "overrated" by society.
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    Hope this s multiple choice as well, @Ath, for I wanted to vote every single one except my own quadra.

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