post images here of your implicit field dynamics...
post images here of your implicit field dynamics...
"Implicit Field Dynamics" takes this image:
And from it, derives this image:
"Si" = "Implicit Field Dynamics""plus-Si" = "deduced doings in or of the conditions"
"minus-Si" = "deduced undoings in or of the conditions""change in temperature, 'effect on conditions', 'how conditions will change', 'what developments will occur'"
Furthermore, the idea that ST = all explicit and NF = all implicit seems kinda "shallow" to me, like it relies too much on "folk wisdom" about the nature of intuition. There is nothing "special" or "powerful" about intuition; it is just another way of looking at the world.
All in all, I think my definitions are better because they explain extroversion and introversion.
It's not really inconsistent with Model A. SLI in Model A is still Si+Te, I just think that Xi = implicit and Xe = explicit. So the disagreement is with Aushra's definitions, not with Model A.
Objective Elements are not colored by personal interpretation they are just blocked with a Subjective one which would take the lead in form of Introversion which makes it hard to understand only one Element and therefore any other patterns that come with it.
Here is my definition for Ne:
"Ne" = "Explicit Field Statics"Seems to line up. Here's Ni:"state of temperature, 'things together', 'full scene', 'whole impression', 'obvious structure', 'these go together'"
"Ni" = "Implicit Object Dynamics"This also seems to line up, since an Ni-user "just knows" the unseen doings of an object."'you're thinking this way', what an object will do, what an unseen object does, 'you're doing this because of that'"
Strength Valued Unvalued4 Fe Ne
3 Ni Fi
2 Se Te
1 Ti Si(This is why quasi-identicals are sympathetic toward one another, why they understand each other's points of view so well)4 Ne Fe
3 Fi Ni
2 Te Se
1 Si Ti
If "impression" means "appears to be", then couldn't any type experience "impressions"?
So basically, "explicit" information originates from the "environment". It is what we immediately detect via our sensory organs. It requires no further thought or contemplation; it is "just there". "Implicit" information originates from an "operation" in the brain. It is the result of a "calculation" or a "transformation" that the function performs. It then seems reasonable to think that a person with an "explicit" primary function would seem to be "more focused on their environment" than a person with an "implicit" primary function, who would seem to be "more focused on their thought processes". Hence "extroversion" and "introversion".
: understood though not clearly or directly stated: not affected by doubt
"Si" = "Implicit Field Dynamics""change in temperature, 'effect on conditions', 'how conditions will change', 'what developments will occur'""Te" = "Explicit Object Dynamics"So SLI sees "what objects are doing" and from there he deduces "how conditions will change"."what this does, what that does, 'I am doing this', 'I will do this', 'why don't you do this', 'it won't do this', 'because this does that', 'I wouldn't do that', 'it did this'"
My SEI friend when she looks at her dog posts these pics on FB; she adopted this dog when she held him he's obviously not the most gorgeous dog aesthetically but he felt warm in my friends hands and the more she touched him the more the direct image of her dog disappeared and what became loved by her is the image of the dog that reproduced in her mind. The soft and warm hearted Simon, her dog
"Got he teeth cleaned, blood-drawn, vaccines given and is starting a new diet... It's been a rough day for Simon"
Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
In this way, by mentally superimposing multiple projections of the same object, Holographists reach a holistic view.
An original personality with a strong personality, but because of modesty and indecision often remains in the shadows.
I don't think that's true at all. "Happiness" is "doing whatever brings satisfaction".But the researchers, who looked at a large sample of people over a month-long period, found that happiness is associated with selfish “taking” behavior and that having a sense of meaning in life is associated with selfless “giving” behavior
Here's IEE/SLI duality:It does make sense from a "balance/yin-yang" pov that an ego would need both explicit and implicit, but not if the individual if seen as a subset of a larger unit i.e. duality.
Strength Valued Unvalued / Valued UnvaluedIEE / SLIThe "strength" values for each function perfectly complement each other: even though Ti has a strength of 4 for SLI and of 1 for IEE, Ti is for SLI an "unvalued function".4 Ne Fe / Si Ti
3 Fi Ni / Te Se
2 Te Se / Fi Ni
1 Si Ti / Ne Fe
Now let's get a closer look by analyzing the definitions of the leading functions:
"Ne" = "Explicit Field Statics"So "Ne" and "Si" both look for properties of "fields" or "conditions", but one finds "explicit" and "static" properties while the other finds "implicit" and "dynamic" properties. There is no overlap, and thus they complement each other."Si" = "Implicit Field Dynamics"
Most of the "serious" socionists who claim that type doesn't change are in full defense mode when someone asks them to actually define what they mean about type and refuse to do so. It's basically the only way to maintain the illusion and continue the loony-talk.
If only I were around back then, I would've simply replied "biological neural networks, man".
It's crazy, but I actually agree with most of his assertions here.ESE - natural, simple, artless emotions.
EIE - artificial, crafted, playacting emotions.
LII - natural, basic logic; the logic of natural laws.
LSI - artificial logic, the logic of regulations and decrees created and adopted by people.
SLE - natural strength, which subordinates those who are weaker.
SEE - artificial strength, which allows to exert influence over those who are more powerful.
IEI - natural sense of time, the course of events unfolding into the future.
ILI - artificial sense of time, the course of events oriented at the past.
IEE - natural ideas, naturally possible prospects.
ILE - artificial ideas, alternatives of the impossible, of the hyperreality.
SLI - natural sensory experiences and comfort.
SEI - artificial sensing, created, crafted comfort.
LIE - natural benefit, attained by personal, individual enterprise.
LSE - artificial benefit, derived through organization of labor.
ESI - natural relations, dedicated and loving his own, rejecting of outsiders.
EII - artificial relations, forgives transgressions, treats outsides as his own.
This is closest to the "@Johannus Bloem" methodology tutorial I'm still hoping will come some day. Too bad i'm tired, don't take this down, i'm going to read through somewhere the next week if I can get my mind quiet enough to absorb it all.