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    A good friend (EII) got a promotion, yay, but I think he is going to struggle, because he will not have much supervision. He can't do anything fast, and he wastes a fair amount of time on non essentials that he doesn't realize are non essentials. He has very high standards, and is very painstaking with his work. He needs a day that is about 36 hours long to get all of his work done. Alas that does not exist. From a distance, it seems that he needs to set some daily goals with specific time frames to help him be more realistic and remind him to work faster. Does anyone know of a book that I can get for him about goal setting, if this is even the right approach? He hates it when people infer that he is not working fast enough, so I halfway think he might reject it. But I forsee problems and stress ahead for him. I am of no help in this area, being fairly inefficient myself.
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    I haven't read of a book on efficiency in the EII way as both EII and LSE tend to get or strive to do as much as possible, efficiency. What's helped me is my strength, which is scheduling important events (which is also one of my contributions in my duality). I write down important events and when they are due (like a good journalist I keep a deadline). Otherwise, I'm very good at time management. I know how much time to allow myself between events. My duals tend to be very forgetful of events (that was a friendly understatement I meant VERY VERY VERY).
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    You don't need a book on goal setting, you just need to set the goals. Even just writing them down makes a huge difference, then you can tick them off as you go.

    If he doesn't know how to properly prioritise tasks or assess how long he takes to get things done, I'll need more specifics.

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    i agree that writing things down and looking at them helps a lot
    thinking of how bad ur life can get unless u work faster also seems to help
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    gosh this sounds like the EII I work with

    like they are given ONE task to complete and then the next thing you know the phone will ring and instead of passing the call on to someone else whose actual job it is to deal with the phone call they go off and investigate themselves

    and then they will create meaningless work for other people that (in my mind) can be brushed aside

    at meetings they will take up time going on and on about an issue that i can see won't be fixed - in my head i'm like 'just accept it and deal with it'

    at the end of the day they'll mention they're leaving and it takes them like 15 mins to actually walk out (and i'm there mentally going through the steps and can never understand how they can still be THERE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakealittle View Post
    at the end of the day they'll mention they're leaving and it takes them like 15 mins to actually walk out (and i'm there mentally going through the steps and can never understand how they can still be THERE)
    This doesn't sound like me. I get ready to fly out at a drop of a hat. I'm not into sensory stuff like makeup and fritzy-girly stuff, on most days I wear jeans and a T which makes it even faster. I have all my stuff in one area and I watch the clock fairly well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    This doesn't sound like me. I get ready to fly out at a drop of a hat. I'm not into sensory stuff like makeup and fritzy-girly stuff, on most days I wear jeans and a T which makes it even faster. I have all my stuff in one area and I watch the clock fairly well.
    Yeah the other EII I have typed seems to be very prompt in terms of both coming in on time and leaving

    actually he's pretty perfect (from outside looking in)

    never complains (publically at least)
    everyone would say he's a nice guy
    always is up to come to morning tea/lunch with everyone
    people come to him for work advice (and he's fairly new to the job)
    accepts any work with a smile

    negatives
    reveals very little of himself
    very quiet
    people don't feel his presence at all
    not assertive in any way shape or form
    doesn't accept reality - he will always put a positive spin on something i'm very annoyed with in the workplace (i just think 'no this is wrong - we should not accept this - if we fight for this maybe things will change')

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakealittle View Post
    Yeah the other EII I have typed seems to be very prompt in terms of both coming in on time and leaving

    actually he's pretty perfect (from outside looking in)

    never complains (publically at least)
    everyone would say he's a nice guy
    always is up to come to morning tea/lunch with everyone
    people come to him for work advice (and he's fairly new to the job)
    accepts any work with a smile

    negatives
    reveals very little of himself
    very quiet
    people don't feel his presence at all
    not assertive in any way shape or form
    doesn't accept reality - he will always put a positive spin on something i'm very annoyed with in the workplace (i just think 'no this is wrong - we should not accept this - if we fight for this maybe things will change')
    Ha! You have perfectly described my friend! Even your last statement perfectly describes many of our interactions. People do occupy a fair amount of his time telling him their problems. He is a great listener and gives very good advice. He calms down people who are upset. He really out to be a counselor.

    He is very punctual about meetings, never late for important business matters. But he also takes forever to leave work. I think it has something to do with Si mobilizing. So worried that he will forget or overlook something. If he is rushed by someone, he does forget things like keys, wallet.
    You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
    Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation
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    From a distance, it seems that he needs to set some daily goals with specific time frames to help him be more realistic and remind him to work faster.
    this perception is exactly the reason to why the world is an annoying place.

    From a distance mean you don't see the specifics, you don't get a shit about what he really want.

    From a distance it seems that I needs to smone set to me daily goals with specific times frames to help me being more realistic and remind me to work faster, from a real point of view I majorly don't give a fuck about that and this prevents me to try to love my life, and to be creative/passionnated in what I do.

    You only want ppl to be stressed and depressed
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    Quote Originally Posted by noid View Post
    this perception is exactly the reason to why the world is an annoying place.

    From a distance mean you don't see the specifics, you don't get a shit about what he really want.

    From a distance it seems that I needs to smone set to me daily goals with specific times frames to help me being more realistic and remind me to work faster, from a real point of view I majorly don't give a fuck about that and this prevents me to try to love my life, and to be creative/passionnated in what I do.

    You only want ppl to be stressed and depressed
    From a distance you seem like a conspiracy thinker

    From a distance you seem to draw conclusions easily about stuff that's to you, in the distance

    From a distance I thought you were done with socionics?

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    Does he do any running? Daily fitness hours?
    If it doesnt work from the mind to the body,
    the body to the mind will create some difference in the person's routines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakealittle View Post
    gosh this sounds like the EII I work with

    like they are given ONE task to complete and then the next thing you know the phone will ring and instead of passing the call on to someone else whose actual job it is to deal with the phone call they go off and investigate themselves

    and then they will create meaningless work for other people that (in my mind) can be brushed aside

    at meetings they will take up time going on and on about an issue that i can see won't be fixed - in my head i'm like 'just accept it and deal with it'

    at the end of the day they'll mention they're leaving and it takes them like 15 mins to actually walk out (and i'm there mentally going through the steps and can never understand how they can still be THERE)
    Could it be due to 'soul stage' ?

    http://personalityspirituality.net/a...-the-35-steps/


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    I liked the Getting Things Done book(s) by David Allen, but I would be slightly offended if someone handed it to me as in suggesting I needed it.

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