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    Hi!
    I am new to socionics typology, I know MBTI and Jungian functions for quite long and I am a fan of personality theories so I decided I'll drown myself deeper into socionics and I hope I'll learn some new stuff. here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis View Post
    Welcome.
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    Here are my definitions of the cognitive functions/information elements, along with some phrases that I think characterize them:
    "Se" = "Explicit Object Statics"
    "physical properties of object (color, shape, texture), spatial location of object, distance between objects"

    "Ne" = "Explicit Field Statics"
    "state of temperature, 'things together', 'full scene', 'whole impression', 'obvious structure', 'these go together'"

    "Si" = "Implicit Field Dynamics"
    "change in temperature, 'effect on conditions', 'how conditions will change', 'what developments will occur'"

    "Ni" = "Implicit Object Dynamics"
    "'you're thinking this way', 'you will do this in the future', what an unseen thing does, 'you're doing this because of that'"

    "Te" = "Explicit Object Dynamics"
    "what this does, what that does, 'I am doing this', 'I will do this', 'why don't you do this', 'it won't do this', 'because this does that'"

    "Fe" = "Explicit Field Dynamics"
    "'these things are happening', 'we are making these changes', 'these developments are occurring', 'these changes have occurred', 'the conditions are changing in this way'"

    "Ti" = "Implicit Field Statics"
    "'because it's against the rules', 'this state will result', 'because of an unseen truth', 'underlying structure', 'unseen property of these conditions'"

    "Fi" = "Implicit Object Statics"
    "this unit is like this, this unit isn't like this, this unseen property is true of this unit, this unseen property isn't true of this unit"
    These definitions also explain intertype relations. Example:
    "Ti" = "Implicit Field Statics" and "Fi" = "Implicit Object Statics". Therefore a Ti-ego and an Fi-ego will both be noticing "implicit static" properties of "things", but the one will be attuned to "fields" while the other will be attuned to "objects", and hence there will be some miscommunication.
    I hope you find this information helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
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    I'd recommend floaties before exploring the deep end.
    William has been here since 2010 and he still hasn't ditched the floaties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes Bloem View Post
    Here are my definitions of the cognitive functions/information elements, along with some phrases that I think characterize them:


    These definitions also explain intertype relations. Example:


    I hope you find this information helpful
    Thank you for that, interesting reading ! From that I would say I am F over T, but to some point I can relate to all of them expect of Se, that's my biggest weak point - spatial location of object, distance between objects. And I like to say "you're doing this because of that" and "because this does that" anyway a lot of them seem close to me, I guess this needs much deeper insight than just sentences torn out of the concept. Basicly what I am trying to do is to finally decide between Ne and Ni because this has been floating in my mind since I know all the personality stuff, I hope socionics will help me with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes Bloem View Post
    William has been here since 2010 and he still hasn't ditched the floaties.
    He may need floaties, but I need a whole damn life boat!


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    Hi newbie
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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