Results 1 to 18 of 18

Thread: Expressionless: Poker Face + Blank Stare

  1. #1
    The Reclusive Philosopher Phantom Shadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    California, US
    TIM
    Te-ILI, 5w6 Sp/Sx
    Posts
    100
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default Expressionless: Poker Face + Blank Stare

    I have been told that I have always had this trait even as a baby. Is this trait type specific? Or is this unique to me? And what do think or feel when you see someone with this trait and why? I been told that I look like a potential serial killer or sociopath. I took it as a compliment.
    MBTI: INTJ
    Socionics: Te-ILI
    Enneagram Type: 5w6
    Enneagram Tritype: Head-5, Gut-9, Heart-3
    Instinctal Stacking: Sp/Sx
    Jung's 7 Archetypes: The Rebel/The Revolutionary/The Provocateur
    Political Position: Independent
    Prefered Ecomonic Structure: Pure Capitalism
    Religious and Spiritual Stance: Theosophy/Occultism
    Government Structural Preference: Meritocratic Republic

  2. #2
    kadda1212's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Hessen, Germany
    TIM
    EIE-Ni
    Posts
    660
    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    When my mind goes blank my face is also kind of expressionless and if I need it I can keep up a poker face for quote a long time. But it's only a temporary thing for me.
    If it's type specific it could be connected to low Fe, I think.
    Love is like an energy, rushing in, rushing inside of me...

  3. #3
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,421
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Shadow View Post
    I have been told that I have always had this trait even as a baby. Is this trait type specific? Or is this unique to me? And what do think or feel when you see someone with this trait and why? I been told that I look like a potential serial killer or sociopath. I took it as a compliment.
    I think of Fe polr, Ti base or Fi dominant when it's obviously just something situational. In this order. I think of Enneagram 5 if blank stare is backed by knowledge and brilliance. Otherwise I think of Hannibal Lecter.

  4. #4
    The Reclusive Philosopher Phantom Shadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    California, US
    TIM
    Te-ILI, 5w6 Sp/Sx
    Posts
    100
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Hmm..interesting...I suppose it doesn't help that its my default face; not to mention being 6ft 5in, elitist, dark, broody, and mysterious. Thank you all for your input, I was just trying to evaluate how my demeanor and persona is affecting people perceptions of me.
    MBTI: INTJ
    Socionics: Te-ILI
    Enneagram Type: 5w6
    Enneagram Tritype: Head-5, Gut-9, Heart-3
    Instinctal Stacking: Sp/Sx
    Jung's 7 Archetypes: The Rebel/The Revolutionary/The Provocateur
    Political Position: Independent
    Prefered Ecomonic Structure: Pure Capitalism
    Religious and Spiritual Stance: Theosophy/Occultism
    Government Structural Preference: Meritocratic Republic

  5. #5
    silke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    TIM
    Ni-IEI sx/sp
    Posts
    3,779
    Mentioned
    317 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Shadow View Post
    Hmm..interesting...I suppose it doesn't help that its my default face; not to mention being 6ft 5in, elitist, dark, broody, and mysterious.
    and thus another dating ad has been submitted to the 16t website

  6. #6
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,421
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Shadow View Post
    Hmm..interesting...I suppose it doesn't help that its my default face; not to mention being 6ft 5in, elitist, dark, broody, and mysterious. Thank you all for your input, I was just trying to evaluate how my demeanor and persona is affecting people perceptions of me.

    Elitism in a blatant theatrical, often unjustified fashion makes me think of E4 (wings included). Understated or rather implied ... E5. # What can I say, my perceptions are bent to your will now, I'm open, permissive and ready to think you're even EIE. l'll write an encouraging dating review for you just cause you adopted the Magician Jungian archetype.

  7. #7
    Blåblodig Inguz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    TIM
    IEI-Fe
    Posts
    106
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Another factor that may contribute to "stoneface" in people is Asperger syndrome/autism.

  8. #8
    strangeling's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    1,704
    Mentioned
    31 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    ^ It's true. I've been told at times that I seem like I could be a serial killer and I was once compared to someone's brother that is "diagnosed" (LOL) with Assburgers. I wouldn't be surprised if people that specialized in autism decided I was on the autism spectrum. I suppose you could be too, but it's kind of a silly thing to get diagnosed with (since it's considered a defect or handicap) considering that you will be a lot more perceptive and intelligent in other ways because of it. IMO, the real problem is that other people want those on the autism spectrum to be a certain way that they are not naturally, rather than it being a handicap that limits their capacity to function on a personal or interpersonal level. It's really a two-way problem, where each person has trouble understanding the other - because telling someone on the autism spectrum that they are handicapped is like telling someone that got raped why it was only "their fault".

    But anyway,,,

  9. #9
    The Reclusive Philosopher Phantom Shadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    California, US
    TIM
    Te-ILI, 5w6 Sp/Sx
    Posts
    100
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    Elitism in a blatant theatrical, often unjustified fashion makes me think of E4 (wings included). Understated or rather implied ... E5. # What can I say, my perceptions are bent to your will now, I'm open, permissive and ready to think you're even EIE. l'll write an encouraging dating review for you just cause you adopted the Magician Jungian archetype.

    Really now... I only appear elitist, dark and broody as a first impression...when people actually get know me I'm more serious/goofy with geek/nerd undertones...As for 12 Archetype Magician comment... I initial chose sage, but after further study... sage focuses on learning, analyzing and teaching everything not actually doing anything...seems more of an LII thing...magician are focus on understanding the underlying principles of the world they actually use there knowledge to do something practical with it... both fit me very well but magician seems more me.
    MBTI: INTJ
    Socionics: Te-ILI
    Enneagram Type: 5w6
    Enneagram Tritype: Head-5, Gut-9, Heart-3
    Instinctal Stacking: Sp/Sx
    Jung's 7 Archetypes: The Rebel/The Revolutionary/The Provocateur
    Political Position: Independent
    Prefered Ecomonic Structure: Pure Capitalism
    Religious and Spiritual Stance: Theosophy/Occultism
    Government Structural Preference: Meritocratic Republic

  10. #10
    The Reclusive Philosopher Phantom Shadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    California, US
    TIM
    Te-ILI, 5w6 Sp/Sx
    Posts
    100
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Inguz View Post
    Another factor that may contribute to "stoneface" in people is Asperger syndrome/autism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tackk View Post
    ^ It's true. I've been told at times that I seem like I could be a serial killer and I was once compared to someone's brother that is "diagnosed" (LOL) with Assburgers. I wouldn't be surprised if people that specialized in autism decided I was on the autism spectrum. I suppose you could be too, but it's kind of a silly thing to get diagnosed with (since it's considered a defect or handicap) considering that you will be a lot more perceptive and intelligent in other ways because of it. IMO, the real problem is that other people want those on the autism spectrum to be a certain way that they are not naturally, rather than it being a handicap that limits their capacity to function on a personal or interpersonal level. It's really a two-way problem, where each person has trouble understanding the other - because telling someone on the autism spectrum that they are handicapped is like telling someone that got raped why it was only "their fault".

    But anyway,,,
    It possible...but unlikely I think more due the fact that I was emotional neglected as a child. I had mom that doesn't like or wants be a mother; and a father that was always at work. Both are emotional unavailable.
    MBTI: INTJ
    Socionics: Te-ILI
    Enneagram Type: 5w6
    Enneagram Tritype: Head-5, Gut-9, Heart-3
    Instinctal Stacking: Sp/Sx
    Jung's 7 Archetypes: The Rebel/The Revolutionary/The Provocateur
    Political Position: Independent
    Prefered Ecomonic Structure: Pure Capitalism
    Religious and Spiritual Stance: Theosophy/Occultism
    Government Structural Preference: Meritocratic Republic

  11. #11
    Pookie's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    TIM
    IEI-Ni 6w5-9-2 So/Sx
    Posts
    2,125
    Mentioned
    89 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Ni can give off that thousand yard stare and Te is infamously emotionless and stoic.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it’s a disease, it’s nobody’s fault. Yay empiricism.

  12. #12
    Zero11's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Germany
    TIM
    LII (INTj)
    Posts
    248
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Ni can give off that thousand yard stare and Te is infamously emotionless and stoic.
    Ni can appear piercing but a thousand yard stare is a combination of one Pi and one Ji function when the eyes are in the middle and looking up.

  13. #13
    "Cool Mafia Godfather" ~SLE Leader's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    TIM
    ESTp 8
    Posts
    918
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I've seen all types with expressionless face...its not vary type dependent, could be how someone is feeling..what they are thinking...drugs, illness,bone structure.

    logical types are more prone to it though

  14. #14
    the Dreamer Remiel's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Canopy of Memories
    TIM
    Ni-ILI 584 sx/sp
    Posts
    1,114
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    My natural expression is blank most of the time. I change it consciously depending on the situation, and what signals I want to give off. It's exceedingly rare for me to show emotion via my facial expressions involuntarily.
    "The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools." ― Thucydides

  15. #15
    The Reclusive Philosopher Phantom Shadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    California, US
    TIM
    Te-ILI, 5w6 Sp/Sx
    Posts
    100
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    According to CognitiveType.com facial expressions, and eye movements are a neurological display of what part of the brain your using, as well as an indicator of what cognitive type you are. Based on what they are saying I'm cognitive type NiTe, which matches my self typing.
    MBTI: INTJ
    Socionics: Te-ILI
    Enneagram Type: 5w6
    Enneagram Tritype: Head-5, Gut-9, Heart-3
    Instinctal Stacking: Sp/Sx
    Jung's 7 Archetypes: The Rebel/The Revolutionary/The Provocateur
    Political Position: Independent
    Prefered Ecomonic Structure: Pure Capitalism
    Religious and Spiritual Stance: Theosophy/Occultism
    Government Structural Preference: Meritocratic Republic

  16. #16
    Pookie's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    TIM
    IEI-Ni 6w5-9-2 So/Sx
    Posts
    2,125
    Mentioned
    89 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero11 View Post
    Ni can appear piercing but a thousand yard stare is a combination of one Pi and one Ji function when the eyes are in the middle and looking up.
    See, i have to differ from your opinion here.

    That Piercing stare, is most characteristic of Se creatives in my experience. They don't look through you, past you, or seem as if they are focused elsewhere. They look directly at you. Entirely & Completely. That's where i've seen the piercing stare the most. From the Se IJs.

    I wouldn't call Ni piercing at all. Most of the time they have that look as if they are more in their head than they are focused on you. Because, well, they are. Ni is unfocused on the object. I can't imagine how that would feel piercing to someone.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it’s a disease, it’s nobody’s fault. Yay empiricism.

  17. #17
    Zero11's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Germany
    TIM
    LII (INTj)
    Posts
    248
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    See, i have to differ from your opinion here.

    That Piercing stare, is most characteristic of Se creatives in my experience. They don't look through you, past you, or seem as if they are focused elsewhere. They look directly at you. Entirely & Completely. That's where i've seen the piercing stare the most. From the Se IJs.

    I wouldn't call Ni piercing at all. Most of the time they have that look as if they are more in their head than they are focused on you. Because, well, they are. Ni is unfocused on the object. I can't imagine how that would feel piercing to someone.
    Thats right but if you have you have also so it switches between zoned-out () and locking-on () depending on the strength.

  18. #18
    Haikus
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    MI
    TIM
    IEI-Ni
    Posts
    10,060
    Mentioned
    223 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)

    Default

    I don't view this sort of thing as about sadism/empathy or anything like that, I just kinda view it as an introverted thing. You are clearly introverted and focused on your own thoughts and feelings rather then the external energy of other peeps.

    That, and only that, in a nutshell- will describe all your social ills and Forever Alone moments because being introverted is a naturally narcissistic thing.

    Please turn right so InvisibleJim's secretary can give you the 'Okay so you're an introvert' self-help pamphlet.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •