Let's Settle This: ILI or SLI?

[Capitalist Pig]

A recent conversation has once more brought up the possibility that I'm Delta > Gamma, so I'm welcoming arguments for and against. Even if you have been previously convinced of one type or another for me in the past, take a step back and rethink it for a moment. Based on what you know about me, what would you say?

I will field your questions if you have them. And if you like, VI material can be provided on request.

Poll is anonymous and expires after 90 days.

[Scapegrace]

Please provide candid photographs of your neck.

[Eldanen]

ILI cpig. I don't see how you could fathom anything else. It's not an argument, just my honest sentiment. If it means anything, your sense of humor has always seemed decidedly gamma to me. An SLI would probably think of you as crass.

[Narc]

Mirror relations > Supervision.

Pretty obvious to me.

[DaftPunk]

I don't know much about you but we had some conversation about economy (taxes). Your views imply more Ni than Si and as Delta ST like @Eldanen said I see your views as crass, unrealistic and even harmful.

[ashlesha]

i don't agree with all of his political views either. the thought process might be type related but not the opinions themselves.

(i voted ILI)

[Capitalist Pig]

I don't know much about you but we had some conversation about economy (taxes). Your views imply more Ni than Si and as Delta ST like @Eldanen said I see your views as crass, unrealistic and even harmful.

This is exactly the sort of thing I speak out against when I complain that Socionics is unscientific, and incapable of accurately modelling personality or describing cognitive processes.

Nevertheless, I started this thread precisely because I wanted to indulge in the hypothetical. So let's pretend the quoted statement actually means something.

Your error is in believing personal opinions and beliefs must correlate with functional preferences and/or possibly quadra values. Are all Alphas therefore communists, or is it all communists must be Alphas? Indeed, authoritative totalitarianism in general must be exclusive to the Beta quadra!

This attitude is as erroneous and irrelevant as conflating specific behaviors with reliable indicators of type. It's no different than rehashing ridiculous stereotypes like " types love food, ergo the best chefs must have in their ego block." Please.

[Cyrano]

You can be honorary SLI for a day...That's it.

[blackburry]

ILI

[Kim]

ILI

[Pa3s]

This attitude is as erroneous and irrelevant as conflating specific behaviors with reliable indicators of type. It's no different than rehashing ridiculous stereotypes like " types love food, ergo the best chefs must have in their ego block." Please.

Do ya like fuzzy blankets?

[Creepy-theticalanti]

I voted ILI.

[Capitalist Pig]

Is no one going to at least play Devil's Advocate?

[chriscorey]

Is no one going to at least play Devil's Advocate?

I clicked SLI... I'll do it later.

[Scapegrace]

I clicked SLI... I'll do it later.

Ahahaha.

We're looking forward to it.

[Zero11]

'The eyes can tell apart the perception processes.
- - - Ne/Si eyes toggle between naive and scowling with concentration.
- - - Ni/Se eyes toggle between zoned-out and locking-on.'

[chriscorey]

Ahahaha.

We're looking forward to it.

shocking.

[chriscorey]

'The eyes can tell apart the perception processes.
- - - Ne/Si eyes toggle between naive and scowling with concentration.
- - - Ni/Se eyes toggle between zoned-out and locking-on.'

I agree and I’ve read something similar in Jung. I’m certain I’ve posted the gamma wolf video before.


@Capitalist Pig I am not very familiar with you, so I chose SLI because it’s more likely. What reasons do you have for thinking you might be ILI?

[chriscorey]

Ahahaha.

We're looking forward to it.

Maybe @FoxOnStilts could help?

[FoxOnStilts]

Maybe @FoxOnStilts could help?

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[chriscorey]

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Dude! You used to do this all the time...Remember?

[DaftPunk]

This is exactly the sort of thing I speak out against when I complain that Socionics is unscientific, and incapable of accurately modelling personality or describing cognitive processes.

Nevertheless, I started this thread precisely because I wanted to indulge in the hypothetical. So let's pretend the quoted statement actually means something.

Your error is in believing personal opinions and beliefs must correlate with functional preferences and/or possibly quadra values. Are all Alphas therefore communists, or is it all communists must be Alphas? Indeed, authoritative totalitarianism in general must be exclusive to the Beta quadra!

This attitude is as erroneous and irrelevant as conflating specific behaviors with reliable indicators of type. It's no different than rehashing ridiculous stereotypes like " types love food, ergo the best chefs must have in their ego block." Please.

You got me wrong if you think I mean capitalism without bounderies is reserved for the gamma quadra. But it's my fault because I was to lazy to write more and made a personal statement at the end. Look at my typing thread if you don't believe me I don't try to figure out my type based on stereotypes.

But what I really believe is that it's more likely that an intuitive type is more prone to believe in an unproofed system who only exists as thought construct.
Communism or Nationalsozialismus don't count because you have examples in history to compare with it. While your believe of a capitalistic state where even lawenforcement is in the hands of privates isn't comparable due to lack of significant examples.

[DaftPunk]

@Capitalist Pig I am not very familiar with you, so I chose SLI because it’s more likely. What reasons do you have for thinking you might be ILI?

Do you think SLIs are more common in population than ILIs?

[Eldanen]

Do you think SLIs are more common in population than ILIs?

I used to think that gamma was the least populous quadra, but now I'm not so certain. I see members of every quadra on a daily basis, so the question seems irrelevant. The appearance of gamma having the fewest members might come from the natural tendency of people in that quadra preferring smaller groups, and partaking in different leisure activities. I can't say for certain which is the case.

[DaftPunk]

I used to think that gamma was the least populous quadra, but now I'm not so certain. I see members of every quadra on a daily basis, so the question seems irrelevant. The appearance of gamma having the fewest members might come from the natural tendency of people in that quadra preferring smaller groups, and partaking in different leisure activities. I can't say for certain which is the case.

According to Augusta types are equally distributed. NTs bring rare is a MBTI thing.

[chriscorey]

Do you think SLIs are more common in population than ILIs?

I'm certain of it.

[Scapegrace]

Cool story, Brah.

You're the rarest.

[Eldanen]

Cool story, Brah.

You're the rarest.

Being rare isn't necessarily a good thing. It means evolution isn't selecting your kind very often.

[Scapegrace]

Tell that to ChrisCorey.

[DaftPunk]

@chriscorey http://www.socionics.us/philosophy/t...ribution.shtml give it a read. On what is you certainty founded?

[Scapegrace]

Well, ChrisCorey, that was a throughly convincing argument. We are blown away.

[Capitalist Pig]

Fail.