This guy! Youtube, socionics wannabe

[Destroypuppy]

Hi guys, I search youtube often to see if anyone post videos about socionics, and I found a great video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r9i2HIPm3Y

This one explains the basic socionics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHsonQErYP8

This one is just pretty.

I wanna copy what he did, but in french, for people in Montreal.

[Scapegrace]

Not for people in France, or Guinea, or Niger. Fuck them.

[Destroypuppy]

I wanna know: in the second video, he has somekind of mantra to activate his self-dualisation. Where can i find these?

[Saberstorm]

He is good. Very similar to Ganin only much clearer and faster. Very good. Where is Ganin's site now?

Duh, I found it. It is Socionics.com

[Phantom Shadow]

Hmm...this guy claims to be Jack London (ENTj) but his socionics explanation reeks of Ti and Fe. His second video implies he can type people instantly with V.I. alone. This guy seem clueless to me...

[MisterNi]

Hi guys, I search youtube often to see if anyone post videos about socionics, and I found a great video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r9i2HIPm3Y

In the video he explains the four valued functions in a very concise way: Accepting(Base) + Producing(Source) + Dual Seeking(Unknown) + Hidden Agenda(Goal). The Logic/Ethics, Sensorics/Intuition section explains two of the four dichotomies.

Another important topic he talked about are your dual and conflictor. Both will seem very similar until you try to interact with them. Dual interaction is very easy and natural and the two you just "get it" with each other; while interacting with your conflictor can be pleasant but characterized by misunderstandings in communication.

[Saberstorm]

Ganin is also funky like that. Same style of presentation. Must be a skill picked up in the Land of Rus...

It might be a well practiced pitch. His is better than Ganin, though.

Here is a link to Ganin's presentation that he simplified and improved.

http://www.socionics.com/advan/wheel.html

[MisterNi]

I wanna know: in the second video, he has somekind of mantra to activate his self-dualisation. Where can i find these?

http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...le=Dualization

The "Self Revision" bit is new to me though.

[xerx]

ganin is the only professional still practicing socionics, and has got to be the foremost authority on here. don't really know about this guy

[MisterNi]

Well obviously not, since this amkazan fellow seems to know quite a bit and is also practicing Socionics for money.

[Scapegrace]

ganin is the only professional still practicing socionics, and has got to be the foremost authority on here. don't really know about this guy

There is also Maritsa.

[Capitalist Pig]

With any fringe pop psychology as developed as Socionics is, there are bound to be crackpots attracted by the smell of money ready to beguile suckers out of their money in the name of sophistry.

see: fortune tellers, psychics, tarot rackets, palm readers, "professional" astrologists & numerologists, etc and so fourth.

[Galen]

[Galen]

What better way to introduce your new, exciting, scientifically legitimate topic of discourse than "this is not a joke, this is real."

[Destroypuppy]

Didn't find the energized mantra for each types yet on the web, but I think mine is what I want(what my dual purpose is):

Fe -> Si

Getting excited about changes from one state to the other?

Ex: Omg! They invented something that lets you control computers with your mind!!
Is the kind of things I say to attract my dual.

If she likes that, then I go on explaining(Ti) the repercussions of this, what I see in this invention is what I imagine in my mind, create out of no-where(Ne) speculations.

[Absurd]

see: fortune tellers, psychics, tarot rackets, palm readers, "professional" astrologists & numerologists, etc and so fourth.

Hitta

[xerx]

There is also Maritsa.

oh yeah, thanks for reminding me to check out her posts more often

[MisterNi]

Honestly, this amkazan guy seems like a very good Socionist. He must be the next generation as the older professionals seem out of touch nowadays. Anyway, good luck getting him to move to Montreal, he probably hated learning English so I can only imagine he would not enjoy learning French either just to move to a new city. You might have to make it worth his while ($$$).

[Saberstorm]

I believe he is good too. He will build momentum over time. In a year, he might have a website with more English Language users than us.

[Destroypuppy]

Anyway, good luck getting him to move to Montreal, he probably hated learning English so I can only imagine he would not enjoy learning French either just to move to a new city. You might have to make it worth his while ($$$).

I don't want his help, I want to explain socionics with drawings, just like him.
I also want to translate some of the articles into french for people I know.

[MisterNi]

I don't want his help, I want to explain socionics with drawings, just like him.
I also want to translate some of the articles into french for people I know.

The Russian sources are the best if you want to translate good Socionics articles into a different language. In my humble opinion of course.

[Destroypuppy]

Thx, yes, I need new sources, got links?

Also, I wanna share.
Seeing that video got me thinking, all personality types are simply moods, right?
My usual mood is my main type, but I can act like any other type that have the same cognition style, right?

For exemple, I tried to act like an LSI today, and it is pretty easy for me, I think I use SEE when I am courting ladies. And Idk about the 3rd one because it must be the farthest type from my own.. I'd'be like maritsa.

Another thing, everyone of us can use 1 mood for each quadra, so we can get along with anyone, fake that we have the same values.
There is the text of dolphin about quadra progression and relation to the void.
So our alpha mood push us towards the void, beta mood is when we are in the void(I don't care what happens), gamma is getting out of the void and delta is out of it (doing the right thing).
Can anyone critic what I just said, I making all kinds of connections since I red the smilisocion, and thought of the types as moods.

Anyone else noticied that they can act like the other types that have the same cognitive style of thinking?

Is the cognitive style the only thing that we are born with?

Is our type then determined by our first traumas( relation to the void)?

[OldPathWhiteClouds]

Yeah this guy's good. He's like the Eckhart Tolle of Socionics.. lol

[mikemex]

He says understanding is the domain of logic. Bullshit.

[xerx]

seems like the latter part of his second video is almost dipping into soft-core porno.

[Destroypuppy]

He says understanding is the domain of logic. Bullshit.

It is, but it's normal to think that your polr is your strong point, because you learn only through experience.
In someway, your logic can become a lot more valuable. Since it's not theretical logic, but only applicable logic.

And IEE have paranoid tendencies, maybe you just don't trust other people's logic?

[Saberstorm]

Thx, yes, I need new sources, got links?

Also, I wanna share.
Seeing that video got me thinking, all personality types are simply moods, right?
My usual mood is my main type, but I can act like any other type that have the same cognition style, right?

For exemple, I tried to act like an LSI today, and it is pretty easy for me, I think I use SEE when I am courting ladies. And Idk about the 3rd one because it must be the farthest type from my own.. I'd'be like maritsa.

Another thing, everyone of us can use 1 mood for each quadra, so we can get along with anyone, fake that we have the same values.
There is the text of dolphin about quadra progression and relation to the void.
So our alpha mood push us towards the void, beta mood is when we are in the void(I don't care what happens), gamma is getting out of the void and delta is out of it (doing the right thing).
Can anyone critic what I just said, I making all kinds of connections since I red the smilisocion, and thought of the types as moods.

Anyone else noticied that they can act like the other types that have the same cognitive style of thinking?

Is the cognitive style the only thing that we are born with?

Is our type then determined by our first traumas( relation to the void)?

That guy is drifting pretty far away from application. If he wants to sell socionics (hence the reason for the high production video) he should steer towards what to DO with this knowledge in the here and now. (OMG! I am more gamma than him !!!! )

[mikemex]

It is, but it's normal to think that your polr is your strong point, because you learn only through experience.
In someway, your logic can become a lot more valuable. Since it's not theretical logic, but only applicable logic.

And IEE have paranoid tendencies, maybe you just don't trust other people's logic?

Don't make me laugh OK? Understanding is a holistic process, it doesn't belong to any specific area of thinking.