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    I was looking for my favorite traits on wikisocion and I found irrationals and askers favorable. I then found that they share the same positivist/negativist traits and started listing small groups based on rationality/irrationality, asking/declaring and positivist/negativist dichotomies. Now I want to collaboratively name each group. Also, if I could find some way to make these groups more popular, that'd be great.
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    ENTp - ILE
    INFp - IEI
    ESFp - SEE
    ISTp - SLI


    In common:
    -Irrationals
    -Positivists
    -Askers
    ____


    ISFp - SEI
    ESTp - SLE
    INTp - ILI
    ENFp - IEE


    In common:
    -Irrationals
    -Negativists
    -Declarers
    ____


    ESFj - ESE
    ISTj - LSI
    ENTj - LIE
    INFj - EII


    In common:
    -Rationals
    -Positivists
    -Declarers
    ____


    INTj - LII
    ENFj - EIE
    ISFj - ESI
    ESTj - LSE


    In common:
    -Rationals
    -Negativists
    -Askers

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    irrational-positivist-askers
    irrational-negativist-declarers
    rational-positivist-declarers
    rational-negativist-askers


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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    irrational-positivist-askers
    irrational-negativist-declarers
    rational-positivist-declarers
    rational-negativist-askers

    Oh my!



    Quote Originally Posted by RGB View Post
    I was looking for my favorite traits on wikisocion and I found irrationals and askers favorable.
    This very interesting, particularly regarding how people approach these groups. I think that internally each group would disagree with one another. Are these groups of disagreement?

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    If you go onto this: http://zhilkin.com/socio/en/
    And choose any two dichotomies, then if you click around you will find a third dichotomy that doesn't change anything, so would be an extra descriptive part of the same grouping.

    For example,
    * tactical-result-ethical; tactical-process-logical; strategic-result-logical; strategic-process-ethical
    * tactical-asking-yielding; tactical-declaring-obstinate; strategic-asking-obstinate; strategic-declaring-yielding
    And so on.
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    I think we should start by describing the behavior these small groups describe i.e. what do these types have as commonalities?
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    All small groups have similar intertype relations, that's what makes them small groups

    Quote Originally Posted by small group
    ENTp - ILE
    INFp - IEI
    ESFp - SEE
    ISTp - SLI


    In common:
    -Irrationals
    -Positivists
    -Askers

    ISFp - SEI
    ESTp - SLE
    INTp - ILI
    ENFp - IEE


    In common:
    -Irrationals
    -Negativists
    -Declarers


    ESFj - ESE
    ISTj - LSI
    ENTj - LIE
    INFj - EII


    In common:
    -Rationals
    -Positivists
    -Declarers
    ____


    INTj - LII
    ENFj - EIE
    ISFj - ESI
    ESTj - LSE


    In common:
    -Rationals
    -Negativists
    -Askers
    The relationships in these groups are Super-ego, Illusion, semi-dual

    These are all the same small group

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    I'm curious about how these groups would observably interact within themselves.
    The reason why I want help naming them is because I already have a favorite group and I don't want to be biased.

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    The top group is actually type for type my most inner circle of friends. Describe what you want to know.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If itís a disease, itís nobodyís fault. Yay empiricism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    The top group is actually type for type my most inner circle of friends. Describe what you want to know.
    1. I want collaborative help naming the groups
    2. I want to know how these groups behave upon observation

    That's it. :b

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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise View Post
    If you go onto this: http://zhilkin.com/socio/en/
    And choose any two dichotomies, then if you click around you will find a third dichotomy that doesn't change anything, so would be an extra descriptive part of the same grouping.

    For example,
    * tactical-result-ethical; tactical-process-logical; strategic-result-logical; strategic-process-ethical
    * tactical-asking-yielding; tactical-declaring-obstinate; strategic-asking-obstinate; strategic-declaring-yielding
    And so on.
    Wow, I can figure out anyone's type with this tool. Even fictional characters. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGB View Post
    1. I want collaborative help naming the groups
    2. I want to know how these groups behave upon observation

    That's it. :b
    Who is observing us is going to change the answer to #2 dramatically.
    Are you asking about the rhythm of the group, the appearance of the group, the interactions amongst it, or the directions they headntowards as a whole.
    The question is to vague to give you any type of satisfying answer. Reword it.

    Im not sure of a name. Every element is represented once and only once. The democractic extroverts and the aristocratic introverts describe an interesting dynamic. Very assertively inviting and warm but skeptical and constantly assessing. Though i would assume theres going to be debate among the super egos and thebother types will validify sides alternatively. Eventually i think the group would split up beforecoming back together later
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If itís a disease, itís nobodyís fault. Yay empiricism.

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    The If-Only-They-Were-Duals! ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Who is observing us is going to change the answer to #2 dramatically.
    Are you asking about the rhythm of the group, the appearance of the group, the interactions amongst it, or the directions they headntowards as a whole.
    The question is to vague to give you any type of satisfying answer. Reword it.
    I'm looking to name the appearance of the groups.

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    They're Causal-Determinists; I mean, the first group is.

    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...nist_Cognition

    Causal Determinists,
    Dialectical Algorithmics
    Holographical Panoramics
    Vortical Synergetics
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    The first group is split between CD and VS
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If itís a disease, itís nobodyís fault. Yay empiricism.

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    Maybe these kind have a hard time maintaining a conversation.

    Asker keep declarers talking. vs 2 or 4 askers would feel somekind of emptyness in the conversation.
    Same goes of positivist and negativist.

    Maybe these group would be good inside a class room, with a teacher that is the opposite.
    For askers positivists, a teacher that is declaring negativist. (but the teacher should be Perceiving like them.)

    This might be one of the best way to make 4 schools, adapted to personality types.

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    I think we feel something for all those types.

    I had a crush on all the types that are the opposite of me.
    I'm ILE, and had a crush on an SEI, ILI and IEE.
    -.-
    Then again, I have a lot of crushs.

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    @RGB Go to Dandy McDoodle's facebook page. There is some dude obsessed with this stuff there.
     
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    Okay guys, I just want to mention that I was a huge socionics n00b when I made this thread. I kinda want to apologize for this almost useless suggestion. XD

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    This kind of thread is like a rite of passage for ILEs.

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    Excuse my while I close this.
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