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    (yes, I have posted this twice....but not enough opinions, man. And I'd like some insight from Alphas...)


    What is beauty? What is love?
    I'm not sure how to define either of these. i think beauty could possibly be a spark of something that is linked to a generally positive emotion: happiness, joy, nostalgia, and excitement (at the possibility of something new and interesting) are all aspects of beauty to me. Beauty can often please the five senses, but for me truly finding something beautiful is a lot more intricate than *just* aesthetically pleasing - it has to truly mean something deep down in your own inner world that cannot always be absolutely replicated to the external world, as it is so personal.

    Love a chemical reaction in the brain?

    What are your most important values?
    The answer to this question would require a 10 page essay that I cannot be arsed to write. And yes, I am 2deep4u

    Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?
    Naw, man. Holding a religious belief, is like, so conformist. But really, I know too much about religion and how illogical and manipulative it is too get too involved in that. I don't feel like I'm a spiritual person, either; I just am. I'll inevitably change and grown and develop. I don't feel like my internal thoughts and values and feelings are linear or sensical enough to be defined. See previous question in relation to ma dEepne$$.

    Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?
    I don't see the point in them. We have the ability to provide a sort of human-utopia wherein everyone could have the ability to be happy and healthy and creative and intelligent...but we're too pre-occupied in comparing dick size and fighting over things that don't matter. We're all going to be dead in the ground one day - so why spend so much money on trying to rule over people for things that, in the long run (or the big picture or whatver) don't matter? Some may say human nature...what about social conditioning?

    As for power: well, dominating other people (hehe) doesn't do much for me. I'd rather have power over myself and decisions. In fact, no: I need it. I need to have control over my own decisions and thoughts and choices. I need to be able to keep my options open and I need room for error and mistakes and learning. Anything that can't permit that is just...ugh.

    What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?
    Film, music, books, intentions, origins-of-the-universe theories, what-if questions, feels...yeah. Science. Philosophy. Bordering on nihilism in some cases.

    Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?
    Yessssssss. Any day on the week. Particularly on a Sunday, as Sunday is the day of rest, and I like to ride my bike past the suckers in church.

    I'm actually very interested in nutrition, though. It also brings me great joy that Conventional Wisdom is more often than not dead wrong, and I know better.

    What do you think of daily chores?
    Boring. Necessary...maybe? Sometimes? Always boring, though.

    Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.
    Let the Right One In. Brilliant and heart-achingly sad.

    So heart-achingly sad because of the pure juxtaposition between love and innocence; and hate and hard, cold, realism. The setting reflects the characters and some passages made me connect with the author's message and the main character so much.

    What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?
    Movies and books and certain experiences make me cry; but more things make me smile.


    Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

    I actually love scenery; but I don't really feel a sense of belonging anywhere in particular. I think that's all to do with one's mindset and perception of reality.

    What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?
    I can be very disorganised and scatter-brained, which annoys my friends. I also often seek outside validation, despite me wanting to be colder and more calculating. I'm just not. I can also be too romantic and too idealistic.

    What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?
    Quick-witted, fun, smart (?) talkative (in a good way?)

    I like...I dunno...I can find the best in some things? I have a wide variety of interests? I'm interested in things and will respond like an hyperactive puppy if you like the thing/want to hear about the thing?

    In what areas of your life would you like help?
    Maths. Pls help me. I love it. I love the theories and solving things is very fun. I'm just no good at it.

    Also, i like the way my life is going, but I often need reassurance. Which is another flaw. Moving on...

    Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.
    No. Life is changing and time is not linear (so it goes) good days and bad days are a part of life; accept them. Don't like something? Change it. Can't? Stick with it until you can. In a nutshell.

    What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?
    I like so many things about people. That's what I love about people: they're so different. They all have good and bad qualities and all of their brains are ready to be pick(l)ed.

    How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?
    I dunno. I'm 15. Let me now access the primitive part of my brain: mmm sex yeah.

    But really, they're very personal to everyone and should not be defined by what is socially acceptable: eg, dominating male and submitting female. Do you like it, does your partner like it, and are you not hurting anyone? go for it, man. Do it all day long.

    If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?
    That they become unhappy with themselves about something that they cannot change; that they hurt others with intent for no reason; that it becomes a slave to culture and socially acceptable ideals and cannot develop its own individuality and brilliance. But at the end of the day, would there be anything I could do about it? I'd educate them the unbiased facts and let them make their own mind up. You can't force people.

    A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?
    Tell 'em what I think and believe. Shrug it off if they can't see the facts and opinions.

    *but inwardly im dieing <33"

    Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.
    I dunno. I don't really participate. I just am. Again, we are back to 2deep4u, but I feel removed from society. I feel like I've sort of defined myself, even if that sounds stupid and naive. I don't do something because it's socially acceptable: I do it because it's good or right, regardless of what people say.

    I love people. Individual people. People as a whole...can be bad. But within this body of bad is a person with thoughts and feelings and rich emotions...so people are people, and a person is a person.

    How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?
    I can't seem to recall how I chose my friends...we just sort of gravitated towards each other.

    i act myself around them. If you can't act yourself around friends, then who are you?

    How do you behave around strangers?
    Cordial, with a hint of silliness when the time is right. yo.
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    "I dunno. I'm 15."

    Althrough you can be typed fairly well, you life will undergo dramatic changes in the next 5-10 years and could alter your own self-perception.

    I don't see anything wrong with ENTp tho from what you say.

    You are most likely intuitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    "I dunno. I'm 15."

    Althrough you can be typed fairly well, you life will undergo dramatic changes in the next 5-10 years and could alter your own self-perception.

    I don't see anything wrong with ENTp tho from what you say.

    You are most likely intuitive.
    I understand it must be awkward as hell to type teenagers~

    What seems intuitive from what I say? And if it's not ENTp, could it be, say, ENFp or ENTj?
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    you remind me of an old member named cili who was delta nf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    you remind me of an old member named cili who was delta nf.
    Is it most likely that i'm xNFx?
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    I could see ENTp but for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntergalaticMoose View Post
    Is it most likely that i'm xNFx?
    you strike me as delta NF > alpha NT but its difficult to explain exactly why.
    just a "socially skilled + infantile" vibe, more or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    you strike me as delta NF > alpha NT but its difficult to explain exactly why.
    just a "socially skilled + infantile" vibe, more or less.
    Well, I am definitely scatter-brained, immature, and un-organised - so yeah, I can see where you get that from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IntergalaticMoose View Post
    I understand it must be awkward as hell to type teenagers
    Not really, I've read a paper where Jung describes that the major patterns of personality are usually fixed by the time one enters adulthood.

    Likely your ego is quite fixed already according to his description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntergalaticMoose View Post
    I understand it must be awkward as hell to type teenagers~

    What seems intuitive from what I say? And if it's not ENTp, could it be, say, ENFp or ENTj?
    The more developed you are, the easier you will be to type. This doesn't mean your ego isn't already set. Temperament generally solidifies in childhood and identity begins to solidify in early adolescence to young adulthood.

    Why are you intuitive? You wrote all that and you didn't even mention a single color, few statements of fact, 2derp4u as well ^_^....

    You talk about realism but your verbalization is in sweeping intuitive gestures such as spirituality, religion, culture, creativity, interests.

    The closest thing to a description of your life is you riding past a church full of suckers.... what kind of lollipop are they anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    The more developed you are, the easier you will be to type. This doesn't mean your ego isn't already set. Temperament generally solidifies in childhood and identity begins to solidify in early adolescence to young adulthood.

    Why are you intuitive? You wrote all that and you didn't even mention a single color, few statements of fact, 2derp4u as well ^_^....

    You talk about realism but your verbalization is in sweeping intuitive gestures such as spirituality, religion, culture, creativity, interests.

    The closest thing to a description of your life is you riding past a church full of suckers.... what kind of lollipop are they anyway?
    I see

    Well, it's a community full of free-thinkers, but they all seem to like differing flavours of strawberry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    Not really, I've read a paper where Jung describes that the major patterns of personality are usually fixed by the time one enters adulthood.

    Likely your ego is quite fixed already according to his description.
    I've apparently been getting harder to Socionics type over the years. Maybe I was just a socially spazzy LII as a kid. On the other hand, I do think my Jung functions settled earlier, so I suppose it's more an artifact of how people apply Socionics.

    Personal anecdotal tangent aside, I do think young people are more prone to social suggestion, so how you express yourself might throw people off. As far as I'm aware, Socionics requires a fair bit of imagination to apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntergalaticMoose View Post
    Well, I am definitely scatter-brained, immature, and un-organised - so yeah, I can see where you get that from.
    I think that quote is the biggest problem with typing teens. What you have just described is a huge chunk of the 13-16 year olds I teach, lol. From your description I would agree with an ENXp typing. That said, the best way to type someone is by actually getting to know them. A lot comes out of the woodwork over time, and sometimes other people's opinions and your own self-image predisposes you to self-identify in a way that isn't entirely genuine. Additionally, it can help to take a step back from yourself and try your hand at typing the people around you.

    That said, don't let anyone on this forum convince you that you're a certain person. People here can be aggressively opinionated and you can start to confuse who you are in light of that. Take lots of time to read, ask lots of questions, and be prepared to have a lot of conflicting answers. Very little is set in stone, which is why people can't stop rehashing the same discussions after 8 years, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Grain of a Song of Sand View Post
    I've apparently been getting harder to Socionics type over the years. Maybe I was just a socially spazzy LII as a kid. On the other hand, I do think my Jung functions settled earlier, so I suppose it's more an artifact of how people apply Socionics.

    Personal anecdotal tangent aside, I do think young people are more prone to social suggestion, so how you express yourself might throw people off. As far as I'm aware, Socionics requires a fair bit of imagination to apply.
    Have you seen most of the members of this forum?

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