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    Default The Vargian typing system

    This is the alignment system in the RPG game called MYFAROG developed by the notorious Norwegian musician Varg Vikernes'. I'm going to write dow its dichotomies and descriptions, also they closest associations with the Jungian dichotomies, they way I see it:

    - The contemplative is intellectual, introvert and likes to meditate, think or pray. [Extroverted]
    The ecstatic on the other hand is more extrovert and likes wild dancing, gorging, is inclined to screaming and shouting or violence and combat, or other excitement. [Introverted]
    - The harmonic is calm, peace seeking, balanced, he thinks through things before he acts and is conflict solving. [Irrational]
    The dis-harmonic on the other hand is more hysterical, unbalanced, emotional and conflict seeking. [Rational]
    - The spiritual always thinks about his existence in the afterlife. He thinks about the consequences of his actions on a spiritual level and believes in a life or at least some form of existence after death. [Intuitive]
    The materialistic on the other hand only thinks about the consequences he will face in life. He hardly believes in a life after death, and if he does he doesn’t let this influence his life. [Sensing]
    - The sympathetic is considerate, altruistic, kind and empathic. [Feeling]
    The unsympathetic is more ruthless, egotistical and merciless. [Thinking]

    The types would be:
    - Belus (Apollean): CHSs [INFj]
    - Diwus (Uranic): EHSu [ENTj]
    - Dunus (Zevsean): CDSu [INTp]
    - Eržo (Demeteric): EHMs [ESFj]
    - Kadnus (Plutonic): EDMu [ESTp]
    - Kaimadalžas (Kronic): (neutral)
    - Mano (Selenic): CHMs [ISFj]
    - Neržus (Poseidonic): CDMu [ISTp]
    - Pirosite (Aresean): EDSs [ENFp]
    - Prio (Aphroditic): CDMs [ISFp]
    - Prius (Dionysean): EHMu [ESTj]
    - Sagio (Athenic): EHSs [ENFj]
    - Skanžan (Artemic): CHMu [ISTj]
    - Sowilus (Heliosean): CHSu [INTj]
    - Wale (Heraklic): CDSs [INFp]
    - Wītanas (Panic): EDMs [ESFp]
    - Wožanas (Hermetic): EDSu [ENTp]
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    no.
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    VARG VIKERNES: Homosexual Negro Metallers are no friends of mine.

    VARG VIKERNES: Psychopathic Jews are exterminating us.

    Hmm, considering hies views on euthanasia end eugenics he sounds like a cross between Ashton and BnD.

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    Oh that's so Absurd wearing a skirt as a top.


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    Go ahead. Don't let me stop you.

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    This hardly seems like a neutral and balanced typing system.

    I like Burzum though.
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    I read this as the vagina typing system at first & was like wtf
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    What a terrible terrible human being Varg Vikernes is

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    I read this as the vagina typing system at first & was like wtf
    same lol

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    When you liek Burzum and buy his records you're supporting and funding things you may not want to support after knowing what are you supporting. There is no case though, when you actually do know and support it. So instead of gay fluffy things and rainbows like your avatar StVual, you may supporting something entirely else. Think about it.

    Yes? yes.

    And that's what I would want to see on this site and not hiding behind some kind of euphemisms and turning stuff into a "joke". Any one who does buy Burzum records may buy Rice records as well and fund Hamas (every one has the right do so).

    God bless you, kind souls
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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    What a badass human being Varg Vikernes is
    fixed it for you.

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    What a horrible, horrible, terrible, terrible human being Varg is. I type him SEE, Radio. His typing system is SEE, too. Liek Jung's:

    [...]the opposite type has been characterized by a prolonged secondary function resulting in a type with fewer ideas, more abstractions and intense affectivity -- the introvert [...]the empiricist, lover of facts and prone to sensationalism, is materialistic, pluralistic and hard-headed, fatalistic, skeptical and tough-minded.
    Every one who disagrees with me is not kvlt, gr1m, frostbitten, tr00, and vnholy.







    LUL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    fixed it for you.
    Well he probably thinks you should be exterminated for various reasons... I don't know why you would even try to defend this deranged individual.

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    Let's keep Vikernes' RPG, his political views and Burzum separated. Using ad-hominems one can't see this matter objectively. I think his alignment system is very interesting, definitely a step forward, I don't know though if he had inspiration from some classical RPGs or he is truly original. I am not "promoting" or "defending" Vikernes in any other aspects, I would consider such projection offensive.

    I am Plutonic - all non-spiritual persons are materialistic in his system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    Let's keep Vikernes' RPG, his political views and Burzum separated. Using ad-hominems one can't see this matter objectively. I think his alignment system is very interesting, definitely a step forward, I don't know though if he had inspiration from some classical RPGs or he is truly original. I am not "promoting" or "defending" Vikernes in any other aspects, I would consider such projection offensive.

    I am Plutonic - all non-spiritual persons are materialistic in his system.
    Naw I'm not going to keep it seperate, he's basically a total asshole and nothing he does is really all that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    Let's keep Vikernes' RPG, his political views and Burzum separated. Using ad-hominems one can't see this matter objectively.
    Too late and there isn't anything objective (I think) about a person who does and says stuff according to his own beliefs and even incorporates it in his RPG. I mean, if one can't keep his beliefs out for a minute when doing something, I would say it is one's own fault. Anyway, used it and well, got my type. Cool. I'm not complaining.

    Although, I would liek to see Varg and Radio shake hands, still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    When you liek Burzum and buy his records you're supporting and funding things you may not want to support after knowing what are you supporting. There is no case though, when you actually do know and support it. So instead of gay fluffy things and rainbows like your avatar StVual, you may supporting something entirely else. Think about it.

    Yes? yes.

    And that's what I would want to see on this site and not hiding behind some kind of euphemisms and turning stuff into a "joke". Any one who does buy Burzum records may buy Rice records as well and fund Hamas (every one has the right do so).

    God bless you, kind souls
    That is implying that I ever actually bought anything from him instead of pirating it, and deleting it when I got tired of listening to his music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StVual View Post
    That is implying that I ever actually bought anything from him instead of pirating it, and deleting it when I got tired of listening to his music.
    Intentions count. Guilty as charged. I can tell you I do hail from some kind of scene and I did know about Count Christian (Count Gayness would be appropriate as well) before he changed his name, I know him well enough not even having the "pleasure" meeting him and I can tell you that he is a laughing stock.

    Are you a laughing stock?

    Try stealing some other records/albums, if not.
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    I am fully aware of his status as a git. I don't get your logic here, as I'm not actually supporting him in any real way. Are you just irritated that someone likes his music sometimes?

    I am likely considered a laughing stock for other reasons, and I'm fairly used to being one so I don't really care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StVual View Post
    I am fully aware of his status as a git. I don't get your logic here, as I'm not actually supporting him in any real way. Are you just irritated that someone likes his music sometimes?

    I am likely considered a laughing stock for other reasons, and I'm fairly used to being one so I don't really care.
    No, I'm not irritated at all - my third post in this thread says everything I wanted to say. Looks I am damn stupid thinking the things that you watch, listen to, read, make you and shape you to some extent (as long you allow it and accept it of course). It can be the upbringing in some famous person's case, too...

    And I don't really know what kind of logiks you follow if you can't really figure it out on your own and I don't care about some person's status that doesn't really concern me, not even in the slightest.

    All I am saying is, if you believe certain things "true", you're a laughing stock to me. Hell, you can believe you were sent by Wotan himself to battle monkeys in your Lego Panzerwagen - won't stop me from luling at you, so it is alright - you don't have to care nor take anything I'm going to write personally. No offence, it's nothing personal, heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Too late and there isn't anything objective (I think) about a person who does and says stuff according to his own beliefs and even incorporates it in his RPG. I mean, if one can't keep his beliefs out for a minute when doing something, I would say it is one's own fault.
    I understand your concerns about being associated in a positive or neutral manner with someone whose views you oppose, but the topic does not target the author's person or political views. It is not the authors fault for one's failure to take notice of a good idea in RPG gaming. On the bright side of things, we are lucky enough Vikernes was not the one to discover electricity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    I understand your concerns about being associated in a positive or neutral manner with someone whose views you oppose
    I lul every time I read about his "views", just like some of yours, and any one who preaches them on this site. Such views are so misguided and rooted in myth I wouldn't even know where to start and correct them, so I prefer to lul - way more healthy for me.

    At best that stuff is self-negating itself.

    but the topic does not target the author's person or political views.
    Of course it doesn't, just like Wiccan rituals do not represent Wiccans (nor "target" them), right?

    It is not the authors fault for one's failure to take notice of a good idea in RPG gaming. On the bright side of things, we are lucky enough Vikernes was not the one to discover electricity.
    I think he would be first to invent typology actually. He read Jung, that's a given. Hitler personifying the collective Aryan unconscious [sic!]

    His numerous links in his writing towards Jung's "Wotan" essay, not to mention his RPG system is a slightly re-written version of Jung's "Psychological Types", etc.
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