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    Often I hear people accuse one another of hypocrisy when those people have acted against what they preach. If I'd hear a junkie tell me that I shouldn't do meth, I'd rather think that I should value it's opinion more than, say, the sentimental warnings of a neurotic mother. Just because you did X, doesn't mean that you can't tell someone not to do X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Often I hear people accuse one another of hypocrisy when those people have acted against what they preach. If I'd hear a junkie tell me that I shouldn't do meth, I'd rather think that I should value it's opinion more than, say, the sentimental warnings of a neurotic mother. Just because you did X, doesn't mean that you can't tell someone not to do X.

    That is all.
    I fully agree and I've considered making this same post many times with the same illustration. Obviously there are people who are just being shitty about it, but many times i think that the "hypocrite" shouldn't be dismissed as they are speaking from experience or from inside whatever current trap they are warning against.

    also, it feels to me like a thought terminating excersize to dismiss advice or whatever because the person giving it isn't following their own advice. that doesn't make the advice invalid.

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    It's hypocritical to call someone out on their hypocrisy. We're all hypocrites, so it's easy and lazy to uphold it as one's only pet peeve.
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    I always seen hypocrisy as telling other people not to do stuff whilst not realising/being prepared to accept the destructive influence that behaviour in themselves has, or even admitting externally that they are.

    A junkie telling me not to do meth sounds more like someone speaking from experience, ie look what happened to me, do you want this?

    Hypocrisy

    Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have.[1] Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie.[1]


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

    The junky isn't pretending not to be one, nor is s(he) lying.

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    Nothing is more unjust, however common, than to charge with hypocrisy him that expresses zeal for those virtues which he neglects to practice; since he may be sincerely convinced of the advantages of conquering his passions, without having yet obtained the victory, as a man may be confident of the advantages of a voyage, or a journey, without having courage or industry to undertake it, and may honestly recommend to others, those attempts which he neglects himself - Samuel Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Often I hear people accuse one another of hypocrisy when those people have acted against what they preach.
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    Hypocrisy

    Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have.[1] Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie.[1]
    Yup, like the tales of honour I hear on this site, where there is none to begin with.

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    Hypocrisy exists in all things because all things are in contradiction- the development of nature is only possible through contradiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Villain View Post
    Hypocrisy exists in all things because all things are in contradiction- the development of nature is only possible through contradiction.
    Motion is a contradiction and it is not hypocrisy.
    Last edited by Absurd; 05-24-2013 at 12:22 AM.

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    Go ahead and do meth, Aqua. Have fun with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Have you done meth yourself?

    Why do you ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    Go ahead and do meth, Aqua. Have fun with it.
    I will now that I have your acceptance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    I believe Aqua would be concerned about the hypocrisy of your statement. If you had done meth, it seems like he would be more likely to listen to you.
    I looked at that "Faces of Meth" gallery on CBS.com. That will suffice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Motion is a contradiction and it is not hypocrisy.
    True. Rather, hypocrisy simply denotes contradiction in social relations.
    "We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Villain View Post
    True. Rather, hypocrisy simply denotes contradiction in social relations.
    You would have to prove(?) it happens internally as opposed to the external influence. All in all you're talking about laws here, laws that pertain to objects.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    I looked at that "Faces of Meth" gallery on CBS.com. That will suffice.


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    Hypocrisy definition already exists, not sure why some are trying to reinvent wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    Hypocrisy definition already exists, not sure why some are trying to reinvent wheel.
    It's remarkable how people will redefine language to suit their goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    You would have to prove(?) it happens internally as opposed to the external influence. All in all you're talking about laws here, laws that pertain to objects.





    Live more, scapegrace.

    I don't need to "live more." I live vicariously through pictures of junkies.
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