Ne doms and Attention Deficit Disorder or ADD

[epheme]

Has anyone noticed a tendency for Ne doms to have ADD?

I can think of four Ne doms that I know well that have all been diagnosed for ADD. Two ILE friends, my mom (IEE) and my stepmom (either ILE or IEE). Is this actually overactive Ne?

[munenori2]

lol the only person I can think of that might have ADD is an SEE. Watching movies with him is borderline hilarious and borderline you want to strangle him with your shoe strings.

[Raver]

Imo, ExxPs might be more prone to having it than other types, but of course other types can have it too.

[krieger]

don't all murican kids have ADD.

[Galen]

One of my friends in high school had ADHD and was SEI. I know two other IXEs who have ADD in more of a long-term sense, constantly changing goals when new opportunities arise. Not sure how related this is to type, my instinct is to say not very much.

don't all murican kids have ADD.

http://youtu.be/zDZFcDGpL4U?t=3m34s

[ashlesha]

my lxi dad was diagnosed with adhd way before it was cool. but i wouldn't have known unless he told me.

my sle cousin has it and its VERY obvious. when we were kids he would literally run circles around the house making noises and tearing shit apart like an animal. he doesn't do that anymore (lol) but he still has a pretty palpable nervous energy.

[blackburry]

I've never thought of strangling someone with my shoelace before. and now I have.
And I'm excited.

[anndelise]

SiFe step-bro: adhd.
NeFi social worker type: add

[pianosinger]

I've wondered this, as I was exploring for a while the possibility that I had undiagnosed ADD...Then I spent some time on an ADHD forum, and...while my personality does give me some ADHD-ish tendencies, I have never EVER been nearly as impaired as a true ADHD-er would be. You can appear to be ADD/ADHD, but if there's no impairment, you will not be successful at getting a diagnosis.

My husband was diagnosed with ADHD when he was twelve, and the impairment was and still is obvious. He is INTp, but that doesn't explain all his issues. He literally loses huge chunks of time with no idea where the time went. When he was in school, it would take him hours to complete an assignment that would take a normal person minutes to complete. Asking him to switch mental tasks suddenly is like asking an elephant to reverse his course in the middle of a five-foot-wide bridge. When he started on a medication as a teenager was the first time he was actually able to come near to spending the "right" amount of time on his assignments, and start to really meet his full potential as a highly-intelligent and capable individual who just happened to have an executive function disorder. Because that's what ADHD is-- an executive function disorder. No problems with executive function, no ADD. If you don't know what EF is, look it up.

[epheme]

@pianosinger

The four that I was talking about are all diagnosed ADD. Part of the reason I was thinking about this is because while they all seem ADD the only one that actually seems impaired, to me, when not medicated is my stepmom. The others seem like they can more or less still function, things might just take a bit longer. So, then it got me wondering, like, how often are Ne-doms misdiagnosed?? I mean, it could just be that doctors are misinterpreting those Ne behaviors for ADD or ADHD...

[consentingadult]

Has anyone noticed a tendency for Ne doms to have ADD?

I can think of four Ne doms that I know well that have all been diagnosed for ADD. Two ILE friends, my mom (IEE) and my stepmom (either ILE or IEE). Is this actually overactive Ne?

The concept of ADD and ADHD, in the form of the current epidemic, is a hoax and a social construct. Only a minority of people who today are labelled ADD or ADHD have a disorder of a more or less physical nature. All the rest are just people who never learned to constrain their impulses. In a nutshell, there are two sides to this coin, and these two sides are not type related, they are symptoms of our times:

1. The diminished capacity of society to tolerate behavior that just 40 years ago was completely acceptable. Higher demands are being put on people with impulsive attitudes, and instead of recognizing that the norms of society have changed (also in regard to the demands of social mobility), impulsive people are now diagnosed as having a disorder.
2. The individualization of society, with its eliminated hierarchical structures and resulting decreased emphasis on learning to appropriately constrain ones impulses.

So in effect the pathology of today's society is that people are required to behave more rationally in order to be successful, but that more people than ever have never been taught how to do that.

Now I wonder how many of you will freak out over my statements.

[pianosinger]

epheme-- I suppose it's possible your friends have been misdiagnosed. It's also possible that they are not really NE-dom but only seem that way because of the ADHD. It's also possible that they are much more impaired than you are able to tell. Most people who associate with my DH would probably never guess that he has ADHD, because he's learned a lot of coping mechanisms for dealing with it, and it's not as apparent in public/social settings. But his mom can see it. And I can see it. And he's slower at work because of it, and has made a few kinda big mistakes in the past because of it.

consentingadult-- I'm not going to argue with you. What you say is possible, even plausible. I do know, though, from their own accounts, that many who really struggle with ADHD would give up a great deal in order to not be plagued with their disorder anymore. It's one thing when society labels someone simply because he does not meet with its expectations; but when the individual himself doesn't like the way he functions (or doesn't function), that's what the ADHD diagnosis and treatment is there for. And I'm not talking about normal people who want to be "superhuman." I'm talking about people who struggle to even do simple things, like keep track of time, remember whether or not they've had lunch yet, or pay attention to a half-hour lecture that they really wanted to attend.

[epheme]

@pianosinger

You make some good points.
Thank you for your input.