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    Lightbulb VI this newbie!

    I'm new to socionics and I'm very interested in how you here would place me in a visual identification.

    http://oi48.tinypic.com/kdq3hd.jpg
    http://oi48.tinypic.com/21dolnc.jpg
    http://oi49.tinypic.com/w16614.jpg
    http://oi47.tinypic.com/2h5inow.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    You look like Abbie in the first photo.
    Who is Abbie?

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    my best guess is NT

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarpine View Post
    my best guess is NT
    What makes you think that?

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    I think lunarpine is trying to say that true kvlt black metal betrayed you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    I think lunarpine is trying to say that true kvlt black metal betrayed you.
    Which in turn is what I hoped wasn't the case due to how superficial it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inguz View Post
    Which in turn is what I hoped wasn't the case due to how superficial it is.
    Well, I see korpsey already pointed out you look like DA in first photo, I would just add you look like korpsey in second one after you cut off your hair and glued it to your chin. Anyhow, are you new to MBTI as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inguz View Post
    Which in turn is what I hoped wasn't the case due to how superficial it is.
    Funny then that you'd ask people to determine your typified mentality through a handful of still pix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    Funny then that you'd ask people to determine your typified mentality through a handful of still pix.
    Mhh, yeah. I just assumed that VI isn't based on what tshirt I happen to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    Now I'm curious what you think VI is and what it's capable of producing.
    You tell me. It's just fun to see what people guess based on visual only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    Ah, so you're into dick-pulling and "fun". Count me out.
    lol. No, I want to see if it's anything worthwhile.

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    Don't pull korpsey by his cock, he might decay.

    Check this fascinating article: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...8-Temperaments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Don't pull korpsey by his cock, he might decay.

    Check this fascinating article: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...8-Temperaments
    Laugh of the month. That was so unexpected.

    I'll check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inguz View Post
    What makes you think that?


    Based on your pictures I would say your eyes look "blurry" which might indicate that you have N preference
    I went with T because you don't look very, in lack of a better word, cuddly


    I also noticed "Livets ändhållsplats" on your T-shirt, which makes me guess you're swedish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Don't pull korpsey by his cock, he might decay.

    Check this fascinating article: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...8-Temperaments
    Cool, according to that I'm a mix between IP and EP.

    Quote Originally Posted by lunarpine View Post
    Based on your pictures I would say your eyes look "blurry" which might indicate that you have N preference
    I went with T because you don't look very, in lack of a better word, cuddly


    I also noticed "Livets ändhållsplats" on your T-shirt, which makes me guess you're swedish
    Ok thanks for giving an explanation. I think it depends though, my face is expressive but pictures doesn't capture that, or I just want to be cool enough to not smile in pictures.

    I actually am from the frozen wasteland, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inguz View Post
    Ok thanks for giving an explanation. I think it depends though, my face is expressive but pictures doesn't capture that, or I just want to be cool enough to not smile in pictures.

    I actually am from the frozen wasteland, yes.
    "my face is expressive", "frozen wasteland" am I detecting some F?

    Där ser man, välkommen till forumet ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarpine View Post
    "my face is expressive", "frozen wasteland" am I detecting some F?

    Där ser man, välkommen till forumet ^^
    Yeah, IEI, Fe subtype I think. But in Enneagram I'm cp6w7 Sx/So so I'm a closet SLE too.

    Tack så mycket!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Looks like Abbie ∴ LSE.
    This Abbie must look really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inguz View Post
    Yeah, IEI, Fe subtype I think. But in Enneagram I'm cp6w7 Sx/So so I'm a closet SLE too.

    Tack så mycket!
    haha, wow! I'm starting to think that my only blind spots are other IEI's when typing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inguz View Post
    lol. No, I want to see if it's anything worthwhile.
    Yes, there is type-analytic utility in looking at pictures and making inferences about their contents. I hold that this form of evidence and its evaluation should be considered among others such as writing samples, observations of social interactions, attribution style, personal idiosyncrasies, etc. etc. etc. However, if you like to watch people play Pin the Tail on the Donkey, asking them to type solely by VI is a hot ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    Yes, there is type-analytic utility in looking at pictures and making inferences about their contents. I hold that this form of evidence and its evaluation should be considered among others such as writing samples, observations of social interactions, attribution style, personal idiosyncrasies, etc. etc. etc. However, if you like to watch people play Pin the Tail on the Donkey, asking them to type solely by VI is a hot ticket.
    Thanks for the insight. On the other hand, I don't mind.

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    LSE ???

    I'm interested in knowing what brought you to Socionics.
    Last edited by Beautiful sky; 02-02-2013 at 02:55 AM.
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I can type you without VI if you'd like, based on what you've said.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Congratulations, Maritsa thinks you're hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    Congratulations, Maritsa thinks you're hot.
    I didn't have to look at the pictures. I just typed by what he said.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    I didn't have to look at the pictures. I just typed by what he said.
    He literally only wrote 181 words.

    *incredulous*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    He literally only wrote 181 words.
    Yeah.

    Sometimes I can type by one sentence LOL
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    Yeah.
    Maritsa, you're as smart as I am sinister and mean.

    Do you ever ponder anything slowly and carefully?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    Maritsa, you're as smart as I am sinister and mean.

    Do you ever ponder anything slowly and carefully?
    Yes, I've done this for a looooong time Scape, all the ponder slow and careful stages are winding to a halt.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    Yes, I've done this for a looooong time Scape, all the ponder slow and careful stages are winding to a halt.
    You have the critical thinking skills of four year old child with down syndrome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    You have the critical thinking skills of four year old child with down syndrome.
    Ok let's try things from your end so that I can see how your thought process works. Um, what do you VI him? And, from what he's written about himself, what can you type him?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    Ok let's try things from your end so that I can see how your thought process works. Um, what do you VI him? And, from what he's written about himself, what can you type him?
    Let us keep in mind that I joined this forum in 2004. I am long past my socionical honeymoon phase, which lasted about three weeks. When I was fourteen.

    First of all I don't think that "VI" is a terribly reliable method of "typing" someone. Are you also into phrenology? I think you can tell a very limited things about a person's nature through photographs. Especially in the self portraits people are so very fond of posting.

    And from what he has written about himself? He has written 181 words with very little real content. At this point I wouldn't venture to "type" him at all. I have to accumulate facts about a person before I assume to "type" them.

    I don't just haphazardly project upon them the personality I would like them to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    Let us keep in mind that I joined this forum in 2004. I am long past my socionical honeymoon phase, which lasted about three weeks. When I was fourteen.

    First of all I don't think that "VI" is a terribly reliable method of "typing" someone. Are you also into phrenology? I think you can tell a very limited things about a person's nature through photographs. Especially in the self portraits people are so very fond of posting.

    And from what he has written about himself? He has written 181 words with very little real content. At this point I wouldn't venture to "type" him at all.
    The things that stick out for me with regards to what he says is the way in which he says them. If you look closely to the first line.

    "I'm new to socionics and I'm very interested in how you here would place me in a visual identification."

    So I interpret that to mean he's interested in a process of things; that was easy right? He would be a process type.

    Do you see that?

    So, if you know the external concepts of Socionics, you can merge them all in like a laser.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    The things that stick out for me with regards to what he says is the way in which he says them. If you look closely to the first line.

    "I'm new to socionics and I'm very interested in how you here would place me in a visual identification."

    So I interpret that to mean he's interested in a process of things; that was easy right? He would be a process type.

    Do you see that?
    LSEs have shitty grammar? Sure.

    (Why are you attempting to instruct me when you're very well aware that I think your reasoning is profoundly shoddy. No. I do not see.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    LSEs have shitty grammar? Sure.

    (Why are you attempting to instruct me when you're very well aware that I think your reasoning is profoundly shoddy. No. I do not see.)
    Well, for one thing, I'm hoping that you will understand how I think and arrive at my conclusions because you often judge others in relation to yourself and what method you see appropriate. If you understood mine, wouldn't you say "oh ok that's what she's doing?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    Well, for one thing, I'm hoping that you will understand how I think and arrive at my conclusions because you often judge others in relation to yourself and what method you see appropriate. If you understood mine, wouldn't you say "oh ok that's what she's doing?"
    Are you aware that you are not explaining your process of deduction? Let me do it for you: "I think therefore it is." Well, Descartes was a stupid asshole who -- like you -- had a difficult time moderating his ideas and culling the good from the bad. He just vomited them all over volumes.

    This is not about the fact that I am not open to exploring new ways of thinking. Methods different from my own. I read a shit ton too much philosophy for that to be plausible. I am extremely interested in how others think. Critical of it? Sometimes. Okay. Often.

    My issue with you is that you cannot and will not critically examine your own thoughts beyond their first conception and that you form your opinions far too quickly for them to be reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    My issue with you is that you cannot and will not critically examine your own thoughts beyond their first conception and that you form your opinions far too quickly for them to be reliable.
    Are you aware that you are not explaining your process of deduction? Let me do it for you: "I think therefore it is." Well, Descartes was a stupid asshole who -- like you -- had a difficult time moderating his ideas and culling the good from the bad. He just vomited them all over volumes.

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    Good job?
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