The Type of LeaT (FOR SCIENCE)

[LeaT]

I am surpriesd to find that there's no sticky questionnaire that you use? For the record, I am fairly certain about my type but it's always fun with some additional input, eh? Anyway, I found some questions:

1. What kind of lifestyle do you have?
A non-existent one No but seriously, I guess I would consider it fairly passive. I don't really do much with my life and it's definitely one of those things I feel is one of my personal weaknesses. I tend to spend most of my time at home wasting my life away on the internet, video games and be with my cats. I know only one person IRL whom I consider a friend that I regularly interact with.

I would say I'm a very artistic person though. I love music above all else and music has been a very important part of my life since I was a teenager. I'm mostly into metal music but anything goes as long as it pleases my ears. Some of my favorite bands include Insomnium, Scar Symmetry, Machinae Supremacy, early In Flames (yes, I like melodic death metal) and I've recently been a lot into music composed for the video games Devil May Cry and Silent Hill. I also write prose and poetry although I have issues finishing the former... Poetry is easier since it's shorter. However, I tend to put most of my creative efforts into my GFX and I recently bought a wacom tablet to further my efforts. I also like manga and anime and Bleach is my favorite manga of all time.

2. Do you enjoy debating and what kind of topics do you prefer to discuss?
I don't mind debating but the topics I discuss have no specific theme in common but it's more tied to what personally interests me at the moment. If I have to choose a subject on my own though, I am mostly interested in subjects pertaining the human nature and society (I have a degree in social anthropology and global studies) though, especially gender but also religion. I also like discussing the arts.

3. How would you describe your overall behavior around others?
Most people describe me as aloof and I guess I am. It's hard to have an outsider view of how others perceive you. I also prefer small groups of people over large ones, and I prefer being around people I know than people I don't know. A friend of mine said that she values quality over quantity. I sorely agree. I would say I'm probably fairly witty and sarcastic but also very serious. I've had people tell me to try to cheer up and not so gloomy. I tend to give them the evil eye when they do as I think that no one has the right to tell me what I think and feel. It's outside of my control either way and I can't summon specific feelings at will. Either I feel them or I don't. Not to your liking? Deal with it.

4. What do you like about the people you like and dislike about the people you dislike?
I like insightful and intelligent people who know when to drop the bs and just get the stuff done already. I appreciate people who are honest and tell me what they think and feel and those who can give me their honest opinions. Either say what you think or feel or don't say anything at all. I rather have you tell me something I won't like but done in an honest manner than giving me a white lie or the sort. If I find out I'll just be more pissed off unless it's something I can understand. I also like people who don't force their opinions on me like telling me what I should think or feel. I can decide that fine on my own and if you tell me this, I feel disrespected. I also like people who don't encroach on my privacy but respect the distance I keep between myself and others. If I say no I really mean no. I find that one of the biggest turn-offs someone can do when I am getting to know a person I don't know is a sudden act that I feel encroaches on my privacy. I rather get to know people slowly but not everyone understands this and want to rush and this makes me feel very uncomfortable.

So what I don't like about people I don't like are those who kind of the the above but also tend to not really seem to take life seriously or things seriously enough but just seem to joke around. I don't mind jokes but there's certainly a level when enough is enough. I rather discuss the finer points of Western politics than hearing about that funny story again that you've already told us a million times.

[Kalinoche buenanoche]

LXI bout 15 yo

[LeaT]

LXI bout 15 yo

I guess I should be flattered when you think I'm 15 years old because I wish I was.

[Kalinoche buenanoche]

actually i wanted to put a younger age but didnt wish to get you offended in case you were older.also,the LXI part is a joke ;O

you're probably too young to ask for a type anyway

[LeaT]

actually i wanted to put a younger age but didnt wish to get you offended in case you were older.also,the LXI part is a joke ;O

you're probably too young to ask for a type anyway

So how old do you think I really am, then? I might surprise you.

Also, I guess that's reassurring (?) because I've been there and done that about both LSI and LII. Damn enneagram, why must you always make things so complicated for me. (And I love it despite hating it, uuggh).

Cue: if it wasn't obvious already, boredom ensued some hours ago.

[munenori2]

You are 32 years old.

[LeaT]

You are 32 years old.

Now you REALLY hurt my feelings.

[munenori2]

What's wrong with 32?

[LeaT]

What's wrong with 32?

Because I don't like the idea of feeling older than I am. I'm old but not THAT old.

@Shang I respond later when I am not on a phone with less than desireable display size.

[Creepy-male]

@Shang I respond later when I am not on a phone with less than desireable display size.

Cool

[Lao Tzunami]

You seem like you are not dominant, like maybe even ILI? But what do I know? I just finished writing how I don't think you can really type someone over the internet, but here I am doing just that I'm full of contradictions

[LeaT]

You seem like you are not dominant, like maybe even ILI? But what do I know? I just finished writing how I don't think you can really type someone over the internet, but here I am doing just that I'm full of contradictions

Most definitely Ne dominant. I like Ne but not to that degree. I sometimes clash with Ne dom types because they like their ideas more than I do

[Creepy-male]

Hi

• You are from Sweden -- how is it?
• Your type is EII-Ne in socionics -- so you consider yourself to be part of delta quadra? Why subtype?
• Your enneagram type is 5w4 sp/sx -- why not e6? why so last?
• Why the tag serial killer next door?
• Why the underworld avatar?

1. What kind of lifestyle do you have?
A non-existent one No but seriously, I guess I would consider it fairly passive. I don't really do much with my life and it's definitely one of those things I feel is one of my personal weaknesses.

I feel very similar. I don't do as much with my life as I feel I should.

I tend to spend most of my time at home wasting my life away on the internet, video games and be with my cats. I know only one person IRL whom I consider a friend that I regularly interact with.

I waste a lot of time at my place too and on the internet. I also only have one good friend that I interact with regularly.

I would say I'm a very artistic person though. I love music above all else and music has been a very important part of my life since I was a teenager.

I can relate to this as well.

I'm mostly into metal music

Can't relate to this, but...

but anything goes as long as it pleases my ears.

This I can relate to

Some of my favorite bands include Insomnium, Scar Symmetry, Machinae Supremacy, early In Flames (yes, I like melodic death metal) and I've recently been a lot into music composed for the video games Devil May Cry and Silent Hill.

Links would be more useful

ETc...

[LeaT]

Ok, I'll try to answer the questions as good as I can. My brain's just a little fluffy from meds because I had a surgery today but hopefully it's coherent enough... I'm rather known to write non-coherent sentences even when my mind's not high on meds so meh.

Hi


You are from Sweden -- how is it?

Sweden is good. Best welfare state in the world and while the political climate here is a little so-so at the moment, it could be worse. Now I just wish the government would make a 180 degrees turn to be more clearly socialist so it overlaps more with my personal values and I'd be even happier.

Your type is EII-Ne in socionics -- so you consider yourself to be part of delta quadra? Why subtype?

Long story short: I do not identify with Fi subtype as much as I identify with Ne based on the descriptions I read. And before you go "oh, descriptions are shit", it is clear to me that while I hold strong value judgements about things and people and they can be long-lasting, I'm also very quick to forgive if chance arises. I'm also quite theoretical in general as a person and I'm pretty good at conjuring up "what if scenarios" of most kinds when I put my mind to it. I'm also fairly whimsical and goofy around people I trust while still maintaining of what one can say is a low profile of sorts. I tend to refer to Fox Mulder's teasing Scully in X-Files in these cases or JD from Scrubs. I did also consider IEE Fi subtype since it quite easily overlaps with EII Ne, but I identify more strongly with Se PoLR. I find violence in general abhorrent and should be avoided at all costs. I do not like the use of force in general and things should be done out of personal volition, not because I was told to. This also applies to me with regards to other people and even when I find myself in such a situation where I somehow have to use force, I find that people have a hard time taking me seriously. Again, see the JD from Scrubs reference and how he tries to stand up agains Dr. Cox everytime and just utterly fail since Dr. Dox never takes him seriously -.-

Also, for those who are into that thing, I do actually kind of look like an Ne subtype based on VI

[*] Your enneagram type is 5w4 sp/sx -- why not e6? why so last?

The simple answer is that I do not identify with the motivations of 6 at all as much as I identify with the motivations of 5 and part 4. I was for a long time seriously and strongly considering 4w5 as my core type but I realized that the feelings of shame do not run as deep within me as the feeling of fear of not knowing does. That sp 4 does not describe me as well as sp 5 does was also one of the reasons why I decided on 5 aside the fact that typing myself as a 4 just somehow felt incredibly wrong just like how I initially typed myself as an LII did once I began doing my research. When I'm mistyped there seems to be a strong dissonance within me that tells me whether something is right or wrong, even if I'm just doing such a thing as borrowing a label for sheer trolling purposes. I felt tha way between 4 and 5. 4 created an internal dissonance I could not ignore. 5 does not.

Also, I'm pretty much a poster child of the 5 sp subtype. I'm very avaricious and I spend a large amount of time thinking about time and I most definitely have a hoarding mentality and that resources are scarce. I'm also a withdrawn type because the way I deal with my fear is to withdraw from the world which is why I spend so much time at home. For sp 5s, the home is usually described as your castle and this is true for me. I need that place in the world where I can be alone and not have anyone intrude. I also find that the behavior of 5 in a way rather strongly lines up with Fi think about being very aware of social distance.

Why the tag serial killer next door?

Old joke I came up with years ago. I was a huge fan of the show Dexter (still am) and I realized that serial killers are only successful if you don't recognize them as such, so I started to play around with the idea that what if I AM a serial killer? How would you know? How do you know that your neighbor you greet every morning while leaving for work is one? Exactly, you probably don't. It became a funny catch phrase with many levels of ironies that stuck around with me.

Why the underworld avatar?

Because I like the Underworld series and I wanted something that aesthetically depicted my mood and emotional state.

I feel very similar. I don't do as much with my life as I feel I should.

That's actually how I identified that LII couldn't be my type because I recognize that production is a weak spot of mine, something I seek help with. No wonder I've been friends with so many Te types. Fe not so much. I don't need help with opening myself up emotionally. I rather find myself very repulsed when people do just that to me.

I waste a lot of time at my place too and on the internet. I also only have one good friend that I interact with regularly.

Your type was again...?

Links would be more useful

ETc...

For a complete list of the music I listen to, I would rather recommend my last.fm profile http://www.last.fm/user/LeaTelamon

Must remove a video because I can only post 4

[Beautiful sky]

SLI

[LeaT]

^Could be worse, it could be beta or alpha.

[Beautiful sky]

^Could be worse, it could be beta or alpha.

I don't think I could make a judgement like that. What's so bad about those quadras? They are full of people?

[LeaT]

I don't think I could make a judgement like that. What's so bad about those quadras? They are full of people?

It was meant as a joke. I know people from every quadra but I obviously get along better with others.

[Absurd]

[Absurd]

Hmm, you're affiliated with Swedish Social Democratic Party?

[LeaT]

Hmm, you're affiliated with Swedish Social Democratic Party?

No, I prefer Vänsterpartiet or the Leftist Party because they are more clearly right than the Social Democrats who are borderline blue over here, and according to some surveys done some years ago, apparently in some ways more blue than the actual blue party the Moderats. Unfortunately Vänsterpartiet will never get sufficient power to actually do anything worthwhile without being allied to the red block, but meh. Sweden is too becoming an oglioarchy unfortunately.

[Creepy-male]

Nice I'll respond back to you later eventually

[LeaT]

Nice I'll respond back to you later eventually

A week passed. Verdict?

[Absurd]

No, I prefer Vänsterpartiet or the Leftist Party because they are more clearly right than the Social Democrats who are borderline blue over here, and according to some surveys done some years ago, apparently in some ways more blue than the actual blue party the Moderats. Unfortunately Vänsterpartiet will never get sufficient power to actually do anything worthwhile without being allied to the red block, but meh. Sweden is too becoming an oglioarchy unfortunately.

Have only heard of Left Party (Vänsterpartiet) and Swedish Social Democratic Party, don't know what "Leftist Party" is if not your own creation, nor I don't know what "more clearly right" and "borderline blue" means when referring to those and Vänsterpartiet is the 'red block', just like SSDP, whilst Moderates, 'right block.'

[LeaT]

Have only heard of Left Party (Vänsterpartiet) and Swedish Social Democratic Party, don't know what "Leftist Party" is if not your own creation, nor I don't know what "more clearly right" and "borderline blue" means when referring to those and Vänsterpartiet is the 'red block', just like SSDP, whilst Moderates, 'right block.'

Well, I made a poor translation where Leftist would be Left. Vänsterpartiet is in red block and are arguably the most red out of all the parties in the government currently. That's what I meant. The Social Democrats are leaning much closer to the right side of things and are very close to the Democrates despite that they are supposed to be opposite parties.

[Absurd]

Well, I made a poor translation where Leftist would be Left. Vänsterpartiet is in red block and are arguably the most red out of all the parties in the government currently. That's what I meant. The Social Democrats are leaning much closer to the right side of things and are very close to the Democrates despite that they are supposed to be opposite parties.

Every political party, considered leftist or rightists has a right wing and left wing it its ranks. As for SSDP, I wasn't paying attention much, but wasn't Juholt actually the guy that was to bring SSDP back to its "roots" as a more left-wing candidate of SSDP?

EDIT: Take the now defunct Bolshevik party what you and everyone would take as 'red block', it actually had a right-winger in its ranks and people who rallied under him - Bukharin - the father of Russian Marxism.

[Korpsy Knievel]

Say more shit that sounds like it was constructed around answers to MBTI tests, that will help.

[LeaT]

Say more shit that sounds like it was constructed around answers to MBTI tests, that will help.

Well, it would help if you actually had a stickied questionnaire in the subforum I could have answered. Enneagram, MBTI, sociotype, whatever. All the same for me. I had just hoped for a follow-through.

[Korpsy Knievel]

Well, it would help if you actually had a stickied questionnaire in the subforum I could have answered. Enneagram, MBTI, sociotype, whatever. All the same for me. I had just hoped for a follow-through.

Call ahead next time and place a reservation. In the meantime, generate more interest and you'll receive more responses. If continued self-reporting doesn't produce sufficient returns then simply involve yourself in regular threads and await the de rigueur attempts at forced retyping from those who think your opinion is wrong.

[LeaT]

Call ahead next time and place a reservation. In the meantime, generate more interest and you'll receive more responses. If continued self-reporting doesn't produce sufficient returns then simply involve yourself in regular threads and await the de rigueur attempts at forced retyping from those who think your opinion is wrong.

Oh, you misunderstand me I think. I meant that the person in question (Tsang Shung) didn't respond back after a week even though he said he would.

[Beautiful sky]

How does your Te repression manifest in real life?

[LeaT]

How does your Te repression manifest in real life?

Chaos. Inability to structure my life, that I tend to start new projects but to never finish them. I'm not very practical or particularly effective at doing things. Even when I plan to be early for a meeting I still somehow end up being late.

[Beautiful sky]

Chaos.

Te isn't the opposite of chaos; it may be seeing the movements and actions of things but when you read descriptions of LSE and LSI, as well as other types there are other types that are organized who don't value Te.

Inability to structure my life, that I tend to start new projects but to never finish them.

What are you doing in the mean time? What do you procrastinations involve? Also, is it procrastinating, that you're doing?

I'm not very practical or particularly effective at doing things.

EII are not helpless creatures. We're quite effective at doing things in real life. Wanting to be EII and hoping that an LSE will come and do things for you is not only unfair, but it's unrealistic.

Even when I plan to be early for a meeting I still somehow end up being late.

So you have bad time management; can you think of other types that also have this same problem?

[Narc]

Have a play around with this and see where it gets you.

[LeaT]

Have a play around with this and see where it gets you.

Ah, that one. Based on what I know of the traits, I tend to get Dostoevsky. It's hard for me to not take a dichotomy test and not end up as EII.

[Narc]

Ah, that one. Based on what I know of the traits, I tend to get Dostoevsky. It's hard for me to not take a dichotomy test and not end up as EII.

Based on what I've gleaned from your posts in this thread, I have you down as declaring, obstinate and rational.

This removes EII from the equation and instead puts forward ESE and LSI. Out of these two, I find LSI to be the more likely contender.

[LeaT]

Based on what I've gleaned from your posts in this thread, I have you down as declaring, obstinate and rational.

This removes EII from the equation and instead puts forward ESE and LSI. Out of these two, I find LSI to be the more likely contender.

I really don't think I'm an LSI. I've had it suggested to me before and I looked at it briefly but I can't relate to beta quadra at all. I also don't relate to being Fe seeking. Fe is just yuck, I swear.

[Narc]

I really don't think I'm an LSI. I've had it suggested to me before and I looked at it briefly but I can't relate to beta quadra at all. I also don't relate to being Fe seeking. Fe is just yuck, I swear.

The dichotomies are formed around function preference and the ways in which they manifest. I'm calling it as I see it.

You clearly think you're more correct, so why don't you just pick the type you like most and stop messing around?

[Beautiful sky]

Fe is just yuck, I swear.

This is the second time I notice you make comments like this. Why do you say this?

[Beautiful sky]

What you write is not related with Te repression.