mbti ENTJ types (those who test off of personalitypage.com:
http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTJ.html
and say those results match them) are usually what type in socionics?
mbti ENTJ types are usually what type in socionics?
mbti ENTJ types (those who test off of personalitypage.com:
http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTJ.html
and say those results match them) are usually what type in socionics?
LIE
"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.".
no idea
I've only been getting ENTJ recently, used to score INTJ
statistics says LIE > SLE
LIE if you're doing it right. (big if)
Never scored ENTJ in MBTI (maybe I did on here, but I don't remember it), even if I wanted to I don't think I would make it. Make a thread solely for that, I mean, people who score ENTJ in MBTI and what do they get from Sociotype tests, and see.
Originally Posted by Absurd
What?
I'm after a one beer, okay, make it two, what did I shit wrong?
I'm definitely not lounging the UDP style with those jolly wankers in Gamma quadra, pardon me. I never know what they say...
I had a friend who was MBTI ENTJ, and Socionics LSI
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
could be an umber of types, again MBTI is self reporting so it also depends on so many other things...what the person is feeling, how the person perceives themselves, ahh...so many reasons to get their type wrong even in MBTI
Generally, according to the research I conducted, it would seem that people to who are Feelers, type as Thinkers and vice versa; why? IDK. It is also very likely that the person may actually be ENTj in Socionics as well; what is also likely is that they may be a quadra member and even the dual who types in MBTI as ENTj; so many factors.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I know an LIE and ILI-Te. I can also see LSE or SLI-Te maybe.
There was a nice matrix made by the russians, columns tested MBTI type, rows "real" socionics type. I think the prevalent trend was ENTJ->LIE, but ENTJ->LSI and ENTJ->SLE were also present. The MBTI picture is a bit too "strong" compared to your average ENTJ, I think.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Depends on how worthless of a typing system MBTI is this week
MBTI ENTJs and ENTJ mistypes seem to try the hardest out of any of the 16 types to fit the associated stereotypes.
Socionics type isn't about fitting into a type.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Hmm... I made this because a lot of LIE's seem to type as ENTPs 50/50 of the time. so I wondered if ILE's type ENTJ too.
yeah I know I don' t put much worth on MBTI because I test ISTP and INFP most of the time. But curious because many people seem to not type ENTJ for it.
Just based on how the MBTI is written, it's rare to get people typing ENTJ.
A quick count of people I know who know their MBTI type:
SEI: INTJ
SEI: ISFJ
SEI: IxFJ
ESE: INFJ
ESE: xNFJ
ILE: INTP
ILE: ESTP
yeah, I know a group of alphas who hang out and did personality type
IEI: ENFP
EIE: ISTP
EIE: INFJ
LSI: ISFJ
LSI: ESFJ
ESI: INTJ
LIE: ENFJ
ILI: INTP
EII: INxP
IEE: ISFP
LSE: ENFJ
LSE: ISTJ
Last edited by 717495; 01-13-2013 at 04:38 PM.
I'm usually INFP on MBTI.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Yeah, I test around 50-55% J, mostly 50 though. I'm really not orderly or particularly systematic. Also, compared to the ENTJ MBTI profile, ENTP fits me much better. No interest in becoming a high-powered executive by climbing the corporate ladder. However, socionics ENTp doesn't really fit.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
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