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    Default What IS my type?

    Brunettes, obviously.

    But I'm not quite sure what my socionics type is.

    Here are some pictures:

    My neutral mood/computer face
    Normal face, but in a decent mood
    Smug mode
    In dire need of a tan
    On the town, under the bright lights
    Drunk
    Pointman
    Uncharacteristic big grin
    Contemplating how much better everyone looks in black and white

    Here are some songs I'm really into at the moment:

    Venetian Snares - The Hopeless Pursuit of Remission
    Hour of Penance - The Woeful Eucharisty
    Guthrie Govan - Hangover
    Cocteau Twins - Cherry-Coloured Funk
    Deltron 3030 - 3030

    Some traits for your scrutiny:

    • I am mercurial in the sense that I can get quite irritated and angry about things but tend to get over them quickly.
    • I rant a bit like Becker, despite never really watching the show in my life. He seems more conservative, however.
    • I am almost always in a hurry, even if I'm not. If a slow walking person is walking in front of me, I'll want to walk faster and overtake them.
    • Clearing my mind for things like meditation is an extreme exercise in patience and mental discipline because my brain is basically filled to the brim with thoughts and white noise.
    • I'm almost always reading something, but usually not books, unless I'm in a novel reading phase, or I don't have a busy job. Forums, articles, googling things and so on.
    • I hate when a job doesn't keep me busy enough.
    • I am an unskilled office politician.
    • I am generally polite to people whenever possible, but I can be callous or dismissive when I'm particularly preoccupied with something.
    • When I'm really busy or focused on something, I want as little disturbance as possible. When that isn't the case, I'm happy to have a chat with you.
    • At home, I really don't like talking to anyone, but I feel that may be a matter of circumstance. I really don't like when guests that aren't my own come over. It's my sanctuary.
    • People that talk slowly can drive me insane.
    • I'm a people watcher.
    • I consider myself a reserved extrovert. A day of privacy here or there is great, but I'm usually still talking to people on Facebook. When I work an office job, I'd rather have lunch with someone than nobody.
    • I'm more action-introspect-action than introspect-action-introspect.
    • I have an almost voyeur-like attraction to the shows Jersey Shore and Geordie Shore based almost solely on the fact that I will basically never live my life like that.
    • I hate when people resist my suggestions, especially when I've taken into account an understanding of their likes, dislikes and nuances of their character, and they refuse for the sake of it.
    • My mind is never in the present unless I'm a dark room or somewhere that it's possible that I'm going to stub a toe, or possibly get mugged or what have you. Always planning ahead.
    • After knowing one or two songs you like, I can recommend you something I'm quite sure you will like.
    • A very large portion of my friends score as Myers Briggs perceivers. Some of them drive me mad with their flakiness, but I like them because I don't have to ask them a week in advance if they'd like to hang out.
    • My sense of humour is more sarcastic and biting than goofy and random, however, I do love when people do something ridiculous in an otherwise completely normal situation.
    • I'm studying law, and when I tell people that, they nod knowingly, which should offend me to a small extent, but doesn't.
    • I don't have huge qualms about who I talk to. A few jobs ago, I was on good terms with cleaners, some homeless people, almost every person in my building, including old lecherous office women and so on. As long as I didn't perceive them as assholes or dangerous.
    • I really place no stock in someone's societal rank and in any situation where I can (so essentially not talking to a police officer or a judge), I will talk to people and treat them like they're my drinking buddies.
    • Some really obvious ESTPs put me instantly into a bad mood as soon as I see them. No other type seems to do this.


    If any more information is needed, feel free to probe me using a series of tricks and intrusive questions. I'll answer whatever I can.
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    ISTp ehh

    maybe ISFp
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    I don't have a strong memory for names and faces, but particularly names. My general feedback in life and particularly report cards (which I was issued before I began to form a bias of my character traits with MBTI) point towards me not being a detail-oriented person. I don't think a high presence of Si is likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    I don't have a strong memory for names and faces, but particularly names. My general feedback in life and particularly report cards (which I was issued before I began to form a bias of my character traits with MBTI) point towards me not being a detail-oriented person. I don't think a high presence of Si is likely.
    why?

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    Based on my understanding, a highly preferred Si would entail a greater level of entrenchment in physical reality, with less time spent daydreaming and in one's head. I find that the opposite is true. It would also imply a higher ability to remember and sift through detailed data. Si users in Jung and MBTI also tend to be unquestioning and to an extent, bureaucratic, when I am anything but.

    Plus all of that stuff that you didn't bold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    Based on my understanding, a highly preferred Si would entail a greater level of entrenchment in physical reality, with less time spent daydreaming and in one's head. I find that the opposite is true. It would also imply a higher ability to remember and sift through detailed data. Si users in Jung and MBTI also tend to be unquestioning and to an extent, bureaucratic, when I am anything but.

    Plus all of that stuff that you didn't bold.
    I think you have the wrong understanding of Si

    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    I think you have the wrong understanding of Si

    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
    This definition seems to vary somewhat from what I've read in the past. There seems to be a greater focus on the body and the definition itself is more broad and basic and doesn't seem to carry any connotations of thinking inside the box rather than outside.

    There may be some merit to your classification of a Si type, but I'm more inclined to say Ni rather than Si. Though, this is with reference to MBTI function orders, I believe the function order of Socionics is vastly different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    This definition seems to vary somewhat from what I've read in the past. There seems to be a greater focus on the body and the definition itself is more broad and basic and doesn't seem to carry any connotations of thinking inside the box rather than outside.

    There may be some merit to your classification of a Si type, but I'm more inclined to say Ni rather than Si. Though, this is with reference to MBTI function orders, I believe the function order of Socionics is vastly different.
    Don't play round about with me; "you could be right although..." pff lawyer language for you're right. I am.

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    How could I accept your assertions as correct as all you've done is thrown some types out and claimed my understanding is flawed? You haven't actually outwardly linked any of the information I provided to the functions or what you perceive them to be.

    Maybe if you were a lawyer you could just be right all the time, but for now, throw me some reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    How could I accept your assertions as correct as all you've done is thrown some types out and claimed my understanding is flawed? You haven't actually outwardly linked any of the information I provided to the functions or what you perceive them to be.

    Maybe if you were a lawyer you could just be right all the time, but for now, throw me some reasoning.
    No

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    My gut(no logic) is LII
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it’s a disease, it’s nobody’s fault. Yay empiricism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    No
    Oh, okay. Pleasure doing business with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    There may be some merit to your classification of a Si type, but I'm more inclined to say Ni rather than Si. Though, this is with reference to MBTI function orders, I believe the function order of Socionics is vastly different.
    A range of subtle and significant differences exist, several of which you'll identify with a cursory glance here:

    http://socionics.us/theory/model.shtml
    http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Model_A
    http://socionics.us/theory/information.shtml

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    ISTp confirm on that. Ok, I'm done

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    First impression right off the bat is Ti-SLE. More than anything, you remind me of Gilly, and I got him @ Ti-SLE too. I'm hard pressed to see you anywhere but in Beta quadra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    A range of subtle and significant differences exist, several of which you'll identify with a cursory glance here:

    http://socionics.us/theory/model.shtml
    http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Model_A
    http://socionics.us/theory/information.shtml
    I'll have to spend a bit of time with this. It seems like far less of a crapshoot than MBTI, where there is insane room for interpretation, rather than just a fair bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Good intro thread, esp. compared to those typically posted.

    Judging by your photos and self-descriptions, I'd say you're most likely IEI.

    Sorry I don't have an exhaustive analysis for you to indulge in.
    I understand. Looking back, there is a LOT of information up there.

    I actually ended up doing the test here. I don't know how the valid this test is considered to be by the Socionics canon, but it was extremely thorough, with sliders, questions that seem to narrow down based on my previous answers and then some photo questions.

    I scored LIE 1Ni-(ENTj) with these alternatives suggested:

    ILI (INTp): 90% as likely as LIE.
    ILE (ENTp): 57% as likely as LIE.
    IEI (INFp): 55% as likely as LIE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    ISTp confirm on that. Ok, I'm done
    For the record, I totally knew you were pulling some sort of maneuver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    I'll have to spend a bit of time with this. It seems like far less of a crapshoot than MBTI, where there is insane room for interpretation, rather than just a fair bit.
    Socionics contains plenty of crap to shoot, its plumbing is just wired differently than MBTI's is and there's more of it.

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    Becker is frigging awesome. Loved that show.

    Your type: probably ENTj.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    EIE-Ni
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    EIE-Ni
    LIE-Ni > EIE-Ni

    He doesn't seem aristocratic. The description makes him come off as more logically/practically inclined then socially/emotionally versed and aware. There's no indication for Fi valuing, but there's also a lack of signs pointing to Fe ego and his overall demeanor seems reserved and cosmopolitan in a democratic way to me.

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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    LIE-Ni > EIE-Ni

    He doesn't seem aristocratic. The description makes him come off as more logically/practically inclined then socially/emotionally versed and aware.
    But he's a male, and Fe is a function that tends to be expressed differently if the social expectations are differently modulated. Sure though, LIE is also possible.
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    @FDG: Honestly, looking back, I really played up the social element, so I can see where people might pull out a Fe. Trust me, I look more like the first photo about 70% of the time. Not a warm person. Friendly, but not warm. I would sooner call Fi-dom than Fe-dom/aux.

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    If he sees himself as an 8w7, that would be yet another point for LIE over EIE. But this is also a relatively weak indication of anything considering how it's probably the Se-HA attracting him to the E8 concept. And he's got 3w4 in there too, which is a pretty common typing for EIEs.
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    I am every single type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    @FDG: Honestly, looking back, I really played up the social element, so I can see where people might pull out a Fe. Trust me, I look more like the first photo about 70% of the time. Not a warm person. Friendly, but not warm. I would sooner call Fi-dom than Fe-dom/aux.
    I would advice you put concluding on hold untill yoouu uh "warm up" Per Se there is a... thing that all go through at the beginning and clouds the info they give ,call it transition persona or w/e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    @FDG: Honestly, looking back, I really played up the social element, so I can see where people might pull out a Fe. Trust me, I look more like the first photo about 70% of the time. Not a warm person. Friendly, but not warm. I would sooner call Fi-dom than Fe-dom/aux.
    Oh, ENFjs in socionics aren't really supposed to be warm, especially the Ni subtype. Their Fe is more related to broader social issues, rather than direct sociability (which btw is often the result of creative for ESFjs). Anyhow, mine is exclusively a suggestion, as Park said, LIE could fit too.
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    Check out these descriptions:

    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Fe
    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Te

    While not perfectly written, they should help you gauge the basic differences between these two information elements.

    Also, there's no "aux" function (nor anything correspondingly equivalent) in Socionics. Forget about MBTI, i.e. please don't mix up terminology and semantics, because they are two different, directly unrelated concepts.

    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Model_A
    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Functions
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    I am every single type.
    Keep making this kind of "jokes" and I'll start agreeing with people voting EIE.

    By the way, LIEs are serious types.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Oh, ENFjs in socionics aren't really supposed to be warm, especially the Ni subtype. Their Fe is more related to broader social issues, rather than direct sociability (which btw is often the result of creative for ESFjs). Anyhow, mine is exclusively a suggestion, as Park said, LIE could fit too.
    Yes, EIE and LIE seem much more similar to each other than MBTI ENFJ and ENTJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Check out these descriptions:

    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Fe
    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Te

    While not perfectly written, they should help you gauge the basic differences between these two information elements.

    Also, there's no "aux" function (nor anything correspondingly equivalent) in Socionics. Forget about MBTI, i.e. please don't mix up terminology and semantics, because they are two different, directly unrelated concepts.

    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Model_A
    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Functions
    Fe as a (3rd) role function as per the Wikisocion page fits me like a glove.


    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Keep making this kind of "jokes" and I'll start agreeing with people voting EIE.

    By the way, LIEs are serious types.
    The "serious" types include LIE and LSE that both have role Fe that involves them making low-key witty remarks amongst friends and acquaintances. I don't see anything out of order here.

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    Depressing, crap and way too slow music. Took a look at pics, you look a bit like a hobbit, didn't bother to read rest now, maybe later, but my first thought was alpha/beta. Hell, can be gamma as well...

    You can disregard that, I didn't put my eye on it.

    Anyway, I see people posted some links - which one makes you brain crack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Depressing, crap and way too slow music. Took a look at pics, you look a bit like a hobbit, didn't bother to read rest now, maybe later, but my first thought was alpha/beta. Hell, can be gamma as well...You can disregard that, I didn't put my eye on it.Anyway, I see people posted some links - which one makes you brain crack?
    Absurd, I am OUTRAGED by your post. I can't believe you said those things.

    Try the Hour of Penance song.

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    I did, crap.

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    Pussy.

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    Deltron 3030 is quality. Mastermind was great. Good times.


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    I have a strange feeling we'd get along.

    I'm known for getting people to loosen up in ways they are comfortable with. The point of Jersey Shore isn't to take it seriously, it's to just sorta laugh it off and make fun of the jews for getting rich off of it.

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    I have a huge blind spot when it comes to recognizing my duals so I'm curious how this will pan out. My thought when I read the op was like "fuck idk he seems like a really cool ile except not." I can't really be any help, it looks like others here have already linked you to all the info you really need and you seem smart enough to use it. All I can really say is don't try to do mbti equivalencies or anything, try to swat that mbti stuff out of your head whenever it pops up. And I hope you decide to stick around for awhile.

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    Curious: what kind of thoughts is your mind filled with ("to the brim?")
    Reason is a whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuavaDrunk View Post
    Curious: what kind of thoughts is your mind filled with ("to the brim?")
    At the moment, I'm thinking about all the books I still need to read, some things I need to chase up tomorrow, whether my friend has managed to get a girl pregnant, bouncing some ideas around for a hypothetical game I might try and hunt some people down to make.

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    I am every single type.
    Enumerate the benefits and costs of this being so.

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    Try the Hour of Penance song.
    Suppose that you belonged to H. o' P. and had actively participated as a band-member in this song's realization. Which of its elements would you have sought to maintain, and which would you have altered?

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