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    ENTj or INTp.

    I played around a bit to get INFj and from what I can see that means I have to agree with the following.
    Understanding the most concealed emotions of other people. Skill to understand the mood of other people and to influence it. Ability to bring out the necessary emotions in yourself and other people. Bright emotionalism. Skill to create around yourself joyful and holiday/celebratory mood. Raising the energy of the surrounding people. Talkativeness. Tendency to avoid negative emotions. Jovial merry person. Wealth of sincere experiences and feelings. Romanticism, passion. Bright and strong emotionalism. Cheerfulness.
    Me thinks that this Fe description is more accurate for betas. While I do understand people's emotions and know pretty well how to handle them, I'm not as good as them at putting my own feelings aside and I would never avoid any emotions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pesto
    ENTj or INTp.

    I played around a bit to get INFj and from what I can see that means I have to agree with the following.
    Understanding the most concealed emotions of other people. Skill to understand the mood of other people and to influence it. Ability to bring out the necessary emotions in yourself and other people. Bright emotionalism. Skill to create around yourself joyful and holiday/celebratory mood. Raising the energy of the surrounding people. Talkativeness. Tendency to avoid negative emotions. Jovial merry person. Wealth of sincere experiences and feelings. Romanticism, passion. Bright and strong emotionalism. Cheerfulness.
    Me thinks that this Fe description is more accurate for betas. While I do understand people's emotions and know pretty well how to handle them, I'm not as good as them at putting my own feelings aside and I would never avoid any emotions.
    Um, that IS the Fe description..

    INFj uses Fi

    or am i misunderstanding what you are talking about?
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    i got entp

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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
    Quote Originally Posted by pesto
    Me thinks that this Fe description is more accurate for betas. While I do understand people's emotions and know pretty well how to handle them, I'm not as good as them at putting my own feelings aside and I would never avoid any emotions.
    Um, that IS the Fe description..

    INFj uses Fi

    or am i misunderstanding what you are talking about?
    Yes, yes and well... I proably did some creative reading on the second question which made it easy to discard the Fe option. Nevermind.
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    As always, I consistently come out INTj in your test, and probably always will with these definitions, or that is the particular brand of Socionics which most of your posts are based on....recognizing that there are several schools of Socionics definitions.

    The premise seems to make sense: it should be harder to chose between two functions if they're not in your "ego block."

    However, problems with wording or definitions can also make questions hard to answer.

    Many people think I'm an INTp, which seems to make sense to me, but not according to the definitions of Ni and Te you have here. See my thread today on a new, alternative definition of Ni http://the16types.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4839.

    In the framework that I propose in that thread, I'd be an INTp, but that definition of Ni is completely different from yours and much closer to what you'd consider to be Ne.

    It's interesting to compare your approach with Sergei Ganin's (www.socionics.com). He wrote an article that said to decide between INTp and INTj, if you're more undecided about T vs. F, you're probably an INTp; and if you're more undecided about N vs. S, you're probably INTj. But yours has an interesting twist, where being undecided about, say, Te vs. Fe would make you an INTj. In theory, INTp intuitive subtypes would then all come out INTj.

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    Originally I got ENTj, but I played around with the questions and I think the INTj one is generally reasonable, and understandble in terms of why questions went the way they did. ISTj once
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    As always, I consistently come out INTj in your test, and probably always will with these definitions, or that is the particular brand of Socionics which most of your posts are based on....recognizing that there are several schools of Socionics definitions.

    The premise seems to make sense: it should be harder to chose between two functions if they're not in your "ego block."

    However, problems with wording or definitions can also make questions hard to answer.

    Many people think I'm an INTp, which seems to make sense to me, but not according to the definitions of Ni and Te you have here. See my thread today on a new, alternative definition of Ni http://the16types.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4839.

    In the framework that I propose in that thread, I'd be an INTp, but that definition of Ni is completely different from yours and much closer to what you'd consider to be Ne.

    It's interesting to compare your approach with Sergei Ganin's (www.socionics.com). He wrote an article that said to decide between INTp and INTj, if you're more undecided about T vs. F, you're probably an INTp; and if you're more undecided about N vs. S, you're probably INTj. But yours has an interesting twist, where being undecided about, say, Te vs. Fe would make you an INTj. In theory, INTp intuitive subtypes would then all come out INTj.
    I come out INTj on this test too, Jonathan, because I find the distinction between Ni and Si the most difficult to answer. Everything else is obvious: my Ti and Te are much better than my Fi and Fe, and my Ne is better than my Se (to a lesser extent). It is much harder to conceptualize Ni and Si in terms of my own behavior.

    Are you having the exact same problem I'm having?
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    INTp.
    NiTe | Socionix

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    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I got Delta NF - I chose both for the last question cause I am sort of balanced between the two.

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    I've gotten consistantly INFj on these tests
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I've gotten consistantly INFj on these tests
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    i like this sort of test but i think the descriptions need some work.

    based on the questions i had real difficulty answering, i could see myself testing as INTj, INTp, or ENTj. the first time i took it i got INTp, however.

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    I changed my answer for the first question, got a different Mirror-differentiation question for the second page, and finally got INFp. For me, though, the Ni description is problematic. And will INFps tend to choose Ti when you pit it against Fi? Most, like me, delude themselves into thinking their Fe is basically equivalent to Fi. "Strong confident logic" is pretty sensitive phrase that for some reason made my Te-PoLR seem exposed. Although, it's probably just my own personal insecurities atm.

    I'd like to see how someone who knows nothing about Socionics fares on this...
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    ENTj.

    I think it's very good, in fact, I don't think I'd have answered any differently if it had been my first contact with socionics.

    I particularly like how I can answer either way in D ( or is the most difficult for me) but still get ENTj with the mirror question.

    EDIT: I must say, though, that this may not be true for everyone since I can't imagine ever choosing a F option over a T one, or a Si over Ni, no matter how badly written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I changed my answer for the first question, got a different Mirror-differentiation question for the second page, and finally got INFp. For me, though, the Ni description is problematic. And will INFps tend to choose Ti when you pit it against Fi? Most, like me, delude themselves into thinking their Fe is basically equivalent to Fi. "Strong confident logic" is pretty sensitive phrase that for some reason made my Te-PoLR seem exposed. Although, it's probably just my own personal insecurities atm.

    I'd like to see how someone who knows nothing about Socionics fares on this...
    Are you an ethical subtype INFp? And did you pick the Si vs. Ni question as the most difficult question the first time around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    Are you an ethical subtype INFp? And did you pick the Si vs. Ni question as the most difficult question the first time around?
    Unsure of the subtype, but I did choose the Ni/Si question as hardest first time around.
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    Agreed, even about D ^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism
    Took me about 15 seconds to complete and I got ENTj. Good work on this Hugo - you're one of the few people here that actually understand the functions in a realistic way and I think your test accurrately assesses on that basis.
    That is besides the fact that the test's questions were really all initially copied from a russian bablefish translation, which really isn't that impressive except for maybe the way that the tests is organized diffrently each time. Also, it is easily manipulatable to whatever type a person chooses; which isn't bad, except that matching self-perception by result doesn't necessarily mean accuracy even though the test taker thinks it is accurate. That is also why other tests have generally differed away from this same approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcnew
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism
    Took me about 15 seconds to complete and I got ENTj. Good work on this Hugo - you're one of the few people here that actually understand the functions in a realistic way and I think your test accurrately assesses on that basis.
    That is besides the fact that the test's questions were really all initially copied from a russian bablefish translation, which really isn't that impressive except for maybe the way that the tests is organized diffrently each time. Also, it is easily manipulatable to whatever type a person chooses; which isn't bad, except that matching self-perception by result doesn't necessarily mean accuracy even though the test taker thinks it is accurate. That is also why other tests have generally differed away from this same approach.
    For the record, the first time I ever took Hugo's test, I have never read these descriptions. Admittedly, I tested ENTp at first, which appeared to be erroneous because upon a later retest I scored INTp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism
    Don't get mad because Hugo wrote a better test than you mcnew. Is this why you're so batshit crazy lately? Lol.
    Dollars to pesos I knew that was coming, but its alright because I understand that people are under the false impression that tests that can be easily manipulated are more accurate than those that try to derive a type without being easily manipulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcnew
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism
    Don't get mad because Hugo wrote a better test than you mcnew. Is this why you're so batshit crazy lately? Lol.
    Dollars to pesos I knew that was coming, but its alright because I understand that people are under the false impression that tests that can be easily manipulated are more accurate than those that try to derive a type without being easily manipulated.
    Man, I was just about to say in the chat, "I bet when McNew sees this he's gonna flip out and whine and go 'THAT'S ONLY HAPPENING BECAUSE HE MADE IT EASY TO MANIPULATE!!!!'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism
    Quote Originally Posted by rmcnew
    Dollars to pesos I knew that was coming, but its alright because I understand that people are under the false impression that tests that can be easily manipulated are more accurate than those that try to derive a type without being easily manipulated.
    Yeah, I guess it'd be better for them to be under the impression that tests which consistently give false and meaninglessly confusing nonsense results (look no further than your latest creation lol) are somehow better. Okay, right.
    I didn't say that, either ...

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    Haha, I still get INFp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catholic Schoolboy
    Haha, I still get INFp.
    This is a problem that will have to be explained using magic.


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    Your proposed type is:


    INTj



    i might as well go straight back to INTj.
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    Peter and I answered the test questions together for me. We agreed on all answers. At the end, I said A was the hardest to answer, and he said C. With A I'm an ENTj, with C I'm ESFp.

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    "That is besides the fact that the test's questions were really all initially copied from a russian bablefish translation, which really isn't that impressive except for maybe the way that the tests is organized diffrently each time. Also, it is easily manipulatable to whatever type a person chooses; which isn't bad, except that matching self-perception by result doesn't necessarily mean accuracy even though the test taker thinks it is accurate. That is also why other tests have generally differed away from this same approach."

    Actually, I did NOT expect my result correctly. In order for this statement to not appear inductive, I suppose I should say that, since I could not "read into" the test, it was not possible for me to manipulate it, which then leads me to conclude that, as I believe I'm OK at reading into and deriving the means by which such conclusions are concocted, it is not "easily manipulated."
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