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    Here's a cute post in dailymail about a woman making money by cuddling with people. Read the article:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2BQM2rxk7


    What's her type!? She looks very cuddly.


    edit: video:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1680428.html
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    I can't VI based on pictures of someone napping, but I approve of what she's doing. Some people are huggers. It may be a culture thing, but they'd rather hug than shake hands with someone they just met. And that annoys the non-huggers. Here is a woman willing to help people who need some sort of physical contact. And if she can make money doing that, so be it.
    It's like a child charging $1 for hugs, but she's getting more criticism.

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    i think its silly but if people are willing to pay for it, then good for her for thinking of it. i wonder how often people try to cross the line though.

    i dunno her type lol.

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    That's cool, she's being very creative and entrepreneurial. She does seem IEE, I agree with k0rpsy there.

    Of course I can't judge how others live, and it's just cuddling, not really prostitution, she has strict rules against sex. But I personally wouldn't cuddle with someone else if I were in a relationship, and I wouldn't want my partner doing that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaps View Post
    Of course I can't judge how others live, and it's just cuddling, not really prostitution, she has strict rules against sex. But I personally wouldn't cuddle with someone else if I were in a relationship, and I wouldn't want my partner doing that either.
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    is like a wet kiss on the cheek and a warm hug by a cute smiling girl.
    is the confetti shots on your birthday party with all your friends.
    is a way to completely rip apart the face of god and stare directly at the naked universe.
    is like over here and then over there and they are all connected and I am on amphetamine.

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    This is disgusting and unsanitary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    This is disgusting and unsanitary.
    Does this mean you don't do BJs afterwards?


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    why is it unsanitary?they are fully-clothed.i bet she has a knife under that pillow ,though. or not.intuitives do not possess a healthy sense of physical danger do they.
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    is like a wet kiss on the cheek and a warm hug by a cute smiling girl.
    is the confetti shots on your birthday party with all your friends.
    is a way to completely rip apart the face of god and stare directly at the naked universe.
    is like over here and then over there and they are all connected and I am on amphetamine.

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    Please guys, I'm just poking fun of Abbie.

    Something about that girl does give me the creeps though.
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    I think it's lovely. I'd be very careful about safety but in theory it's a beautiful idea. She even has a lady model as a customer... i imagine that girl might really want/need those hugs.

    Oh... i also heard of cuddle parties befor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelenOfTroy View Post
    Oh... i also heard of cuddle parties befor.
    I've accidentally had a cuddle party with my friends! We were all high on MDMA and it was awesome.
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    To be on MDMA and to not have someone to hug is like having peanut butter without jelly. Cookies without milk. Bread without butter. Foreplay with no penetration. Pasta with no sauce. High without music. ETC ETC ETC

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    To be on MDMA and to not have someone to hug is like having peanut butter without jelly. Cookies without milk. Bread without butter. Foreplay with no penetration. Pasta with no sauce. High without music. ETC ETC ETC
    Yeah true, but we were literally a groping pile.
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    Someone providing intimacy for money. Apparently it's okay as long as you don't penis vagina thing.
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    Its so sad to see there are so many lonely people on this planet who are willing to pay such money just to have someone to cuddle with them. In this age of technologies human touch is so rare that it should be preserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    Its so sad to see there are so many lonely people on this planet who are willing to pay such money just to have someone to cuddle with them. In this age of technologies human touch is so rare that it should be preserved.
    I have come to the conclusion that anyone who is willing to give their very body to alleviate someone's loneliness is more of a saint than a police officer or a lawyer. I don't understand why some think that it is okay to cuddle with a person for money but will tell you how engaging in the most delightful act of nature for an income is to be shunned at same time when practically most men pay for women indirectly in the form of drinks, dinners, the shared credit card, accommodation and you name it.

    Some men are very lonely and a mere brief shallow companionship flesh-to-flesh will provide them with security and happiness. Who is the victim here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    I have come to the conclusion that anyone who is willing to give their very body to alleviate someone's loneliness is more of a saint than a police officer or a lawyer. I don't understand why some think that it is okay to cuddle with a person for money but will tell you how engaging in the most delightful act of nature for an income is to be shunned at same time when practically most men pay for women indirectly in the form of drinks, dinners, the shared credit card, accommodation and you name it.

    Some men are very lonely and a mere brief shallow companionship flesh-to-flesh will provide them with security and happiness. Who is the victim here?
    It has been done a very long time ago and these women were called priestesses - only with coming of patriarchy such practices have been outlawed/banned. Now it is called prostitution and women get cash for it.
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    This is the first I have heard of this, and omigosh its in my neighborhood. I have noticed this house and side building now that the leaves are gone, after the storm came through. And that's my local news anchor on the video.

    Its very strange, and I would never do this; I don't want to hug that many people. (I'd much rather have a lot of contact with one man I love than a little contact with a lot of men. And saving snuggles for one enhances it, IMO). But I suppose there is a need for it.

    I also think there are a lot of people who no one wants to hug that could use hugs.

    P.S. She makes me think of SEEs I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    I also think there are a lot of people who no one wants to hug that could use hugs.
    Agreed. Also many people who know one wants to fuck but could use a fuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Agreed. Also many people who know one wants to fuck but could use a fuck.
    That's not true, there is a match for every person on this planet. The problem comes when a person unwilling to give wants to get. For example a person who doesn't take care of himself wants a person who is the opposite. If you can't lower your standards and expectations you shouldn't expect anyone to lower theirs. You have to know where you stand and who you really are and you will get just exactly what you deserve. Do I make any sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    That's not true, there is a match for every person on this planet. The problem comes when a person unwilling to give wants to get. For example a person who doesn't take care of himself wants a person who is the opposite. If you can't lower your standards and expectations you shouldn't expect anyone to lower theirs. You have to know where you stand and who you really are and you will get just exactly what you deserve. Do I make any sense?
    In a way. But still there will be always people who don't know anyone who wants to fuck them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    In a way. But still there will be always people who don't know anyone who wants to fuck them.
    Do you know who wants to fuck you? Unless you are obviously seeing someone you wouldn't really know but could just guess. Thinking about such things or seducing other people takes time and some people would rather devote that time to other things and are left blind to the idea of anyone ever wanting to fuck them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    Do you know who wants to fuck you? Unless you are obviously seeing someone you wouldn't really know but could just guess.
    Well, I think that friends with benefits are a pretty safe guess.
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    Thinking about such things or seducing other people takes time and some people would rather devote that time to other things and are left blind to the idea of anyone ever wanting to fuck them.
    Most of the time at least one of these other things provide income which in turn will bring women more accessible.
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    Is Eliza like the Mirror Maritsa? Maybe she's the only IEE and Maritsa is the only IEE and they combine their powers to point out SEEs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    NO!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Is Eliza like the Mirror Maritsa? Maybe she's the only IEE and Maritsa is the only IEE and they combine their powers to point out SEEs.
    LOL.

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    WHY NOT???
    I was going to ask if you seriously want to know, but I will just answer as if you do.

    My answer is not politically or culturally acceptable, so go away if opposing opinions incense you.

    IMO, the cuddler's behavior is unchaste. Yes, even though she is not having sex with them. Its a turn-off to me. Its unethical. And i like to think that IEEs are more ethical. We are an ethical type after all. But today chastity is seen as valueless, and only sexual indulgence has value, so many scorn even the word "chaste". But the fact is, it has great value.

    Here is my own story and I don't tell it to preach to anyone. Its just about a choice I made, my personal decision.

    It includes references to God and His ways, and even sin! So if that turns you off, skip this!

    It is a long story of my thoughts and feelings, so if thats not your cup of tea, skip it!

    I have lived with chastity for many years and its only recently I can see the fruit of it. It was often very, very hard to choose to be chaste. I think as a sx subtype particularly so. Particularly since I avoided even "platonic" relations with a man, by my own choice, because I was not in a position to marry, and felt in my loneliness the temptation for me to be unchaste would be too great. Sometimes living this life when I felt lonely made me feel numb, yet I chose it because I was fully convinced this was my way for me to live God's ways, and I had complete faith that "Our ways are not God's ways" and that God's ways are best, and that God is not mocked. That means if I chose to live God's way, no matter how it felt today, in the end, someday, I would see its reward, because if in fact "our ways" (succumbing to our natural desires instead of disciplining them) are better than God's, then God certainly could rightfully be mocked.

    (That sin is enjoyable not withstanding. Of course it is, or we wouldn't indulge.)

    So in my loneliest times there was no one to snuggle with. In my bad marriage which I was firmly faithful to, I came to a point of facing the reality of an entire lifetime without snuggling, or, bleakly, even anyone to enjoy a cup of coffee with me. And at the point of facing this I nearly fell into debilitating despair. But I took this despair to God and because of that I learned how very real His comfort is. And to have learned that makes everything that proceeded it that caused me to learn it completely worth it!

    That is why I know that Priests and Religious, if they want to keep their vows to chastity, can truly do this. It is not humanly possible - so, yes, those who are outraged that the Church would expect this of a priest have a true point. However, with God's grace, it truly is.

    For anyone familiar with the Bible, this is very much what Jesus means when He said it is harder for a rich man to get into Heaven than a camel to go through the eye of a needle. "How then can ANYONE get to Heaven?!" asked his disciples. Jesus answered that "With God, all things are possible".

    So I intended to live this way the rest of my life, and considered joining a religious order someday when my son got established in his life. I did not expect to fall very suddenly and quite completely in love with my SLI that day I met him after years of writing him. When we got together 3 months later, after so many years, I got to snuggle. Obviously I like to write, but I cannot even put into words what that is like, and I won't even try. But it is powerfully bonding, and I continually feel such gratitude that I did not snuggle with anyone else. It is so bonding that it keeps us together when we are apart months at a time, and as we face some serious, time-consuming challenging practical obstacles that we need to overcome in order to be together.

    I am so grateful now that that bonding was reserved all for SLI, and no one else. Having waited makes it better! I can only describe it as being like eating a taste of very fine food after a very long fast. Only when you are truly hungry can you appreciate the subtleties of the food.

    Of course it doesn't stop there and desire makes it seem impossible to stop at "just snuggling" so that's the ongoing challenge we face now. And we aren't perfect. But we know how to do the impossible: we need God's help.

    So, back to this professional snuggler. In my opinion, she is wasting her gift spreading it far and wide, and for a price, too. It takes away from the preciousness of the one-on-one, with one she would love someday. She is in fact selling her body and her intimacy, and even though it falls far short of prostitution, it is on that continuum. According to God's law, prostitution is wrong. And IMO, since all of God's laws are written in our hearts, that's why it offends most people. Yes, its not politically or culturally acceptable to be offended by prostitution, however the fact is most people are offended at the thought of themselves being a prostitute, even if they advocate for others to, sort of like the usual attitude towards abortion ["Well, I would never, but others can if they want!"].

    So her snuggle-intimately-with-anyone is a turn-off to me but I would never be one of those who send her scourging emails telling her so. Because I can only assume she is doing what her [uninformed] conscience tells her is a way that is okay. But I know that our ways are not God's ways. I know that I am blessed to know the reality that "There is a way which seemeth right unto man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.-Proverbs 14:12 and doing what God says is wrong leads to kinds of deaths, deaths of goods that God intended for us to have.

    He designed sexual intimacy and He knows what we should do to have the best kind. The best kind is in love, not lust, and the best kind is exclusive. Not only because he designed our bodies that way [and our bodies suffer when exposed to to many lovers, as it is against His design, and our bodies cannot take it physically, and disease results] but also doing opposite of what He says robs us of the joy of intimacy. Our hearts aren't designed to enjoy loving intimacy with that many people. That's my thought, and I am convinced its true, particularly as my experience confirms it.

    And for those who have chosen a completely other way of life, against God's ways, damaging their hearts and bodies with intimacy with many people, there is hope for you, too, to enjoy love in the fullness that God intended, as His forgiveness for our errors is complete, and there is always a new beginning.

    If anyone has seen Mel Gibson's The Passion, when Jesus, bloodied and exhausted, greets His mother on the Way to the Cross, and He says, "See, Mother? I make all things new." This is what He meant. He does make all things new.

    Remember God does not love any of us any bit less for choosing to do it our way instead of His (if He did that would make him unjust, since He gave us the choice of free will. And He is perfectly just!). He only grieves for what we have lost, since He loves us and wants the best for us.

    I venture to say He loves the transgressor more, as in the story of the lost sheep. He restores. Just as He restored Mary of Magdala, after years of prostitution, He forgave her, and healed her, and renewed her, and she was made so new that only months (or a year or so, we don't know exactly) after living completely immersed in a life of mortal sin He told her always-chaste sister Martha that her sister Mary "has exceeded you in loving". And He, Who is Love, favored she whom He praised for her love with being the first to see Him when He raised Himself from dead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post

    IMO, the cuddler's behavior is unchaste. Yes, even though she is not having sex with them. Its a turn-off to me. Its unethical. And i like to think that IEEs are more ethical. We are an ethical type after all. But today chastity is seen as valueless, and only sexual indulgence has value, so I realize that many scorn even the word chaste. But the fact is, it has great value.
    "Ethical" in socionics has nothing do do with morals or being in any shape or form "chaste" or "pure" or "non-transgressive." I can respect your choices regarding chastity, but your attitude towards sex and moral standing should not determine other people's types. I don't like to be hugged by strangers, so this could never be something I would do, but I don't think that is type-related either. I do think the world would be a better place with more snuggleries. <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    "Ethical" in socionics has nothing do do with morals .
    Really? Because it seems an ethical type does spend some particular time reflecting on what their morals are.

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    or being in any shape or form "chaste" or "pure" or "non-transgressive.".
    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    I can respect your choices regarding chastity, but your attitude towards sex and moral standing should not determine other people's types..
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    I don't like to be hugged by strangers, so this could never be something I would do, but I don't think that is type-related either..
    And I sort of think that is related to IEE, in a like way that NF makes us a more introverted-appearing "E," NF makes us feel and think on all that's related to the hug so strongly that we are selective in that indulgence. Just a thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    I do think the world would be a better place with more snuggleries. <3
    For some reason I think SEI when watching the video, but I can't really pinpoint why.
    We differ on the I-E on what we call her but the SEEs I know can appear quite demure when the situation calls for it. She has a camera pointed at her recording her for the local news and by this point her she has been made well aware that some people feel extremely strongly that she is doing something very wrong. So she has subdued the strength of her opinion that it took to set up this business, and is presenting it a bit carefully. (That's just my non-expert opinion.)

    The one SEI I know, whom I know quite well, puts all her energies into JUST serving her family in an intimate, involved way. Also my SLI is an "I" and he serves only his family in an intimate, involved way. Not strangers. So that is why I am thinking SEE rather than SEI for Miss Snuggery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    LOL.


    I was going to ask if you seriously want to know, but I will just answer as if you do.

    My answer is not politically or culturally acceptable, so go away if opposing opinions incense you.

    IMO, the cuddler's behavior is unchaste. Yes, even though she is not having sex with them. Its a turn-off to me. Its unethical. And i like to think that IEEs are more ethical. We are an ethical type after all. But today chastity is seen as valueless, and only sexual indulgence has value, so many scorn even the word "chaste". But the fact is, it has great value.

    Here is my own story and I don't tell it to preach to anyone. Its just about a choice I made, my personal decision.

    It includes references to God and His ways, and even sin! So if that turns you off, skip this!

    It is a long story of my thoughts and feelings, so if thats not your cup of tea, skip it!

    I have lived with chastity for many years and its only recently I can see the fruit of it. It was often very, very hard to choose to be chaste. I think as a sx subtype particularly so. Particularly since I avoided even "platonic" relations with a man, by my own choice, because I was not in a position to marry, and felt in my loneliness the temptation for me to be unchaste would be too great. Sometimes living this life when I felt lonely made me feel numb, yet I chose it because I was fully convinced this was my way for me to live God's ways, and I had complete faith that "Our ways are not God's ways" and that God's ways are best, and that God is not mocked. That means if I chose to live God's way, no matter how it felt today, in the end, someday, I would see its reward, because if in fact "our ways" (succumbing to our natural desires instead of disciplining them) are better than God's, then God certainly could rightfully be mocked.

    (That sin is enjoyable not withstanding. Of course it is, or we wouldn't indulge.)

    So in my loneliest times there was no one to snuggle with. In my bad marriage which I was firmly faithful to, I came to a point of facing the reality of an entire lifetime without snuggling, or, bleakly, even anyone to enjoy a cup of coffee with me. And at the point of facing this I nearly fell into debilitating despair. But I took this despair to God and because of that I learned how very real His comfort is. And to have learned that makes everything that proceeded it that caused me to learn it completely worth it!

    That is why I know that Priests and Religious, if they want to keep their vows to chastity, can truly do this. It is not humanly possible - so, yes, those who are outraged that the Church would expect this of a priest have a true point. However, with God's grace, it truly is.

    For anyone familiar with the Bible, this is very much what Jesus means when He said it is harder for a rich man to get into Heaven than a camel to go through the eye of a needle. "How then can ANYONE get to Heaven?!" asked his disciples. Jesus answered that "With God, all things are possible".

    So I intended to live this way the rest of my life, and considered joining a religious order someday when my son got established in his life. I did not expect to fall very suddenly and quite completely in love with my SLI that day I met him after years of writing him. When we got together 3 months later, after so many years, I got to snuggle. Obviously I like to write, but I cannot even put into words what that is like, and I won't even try. But it is powerfully bonding, and I continually feel such gratitude that I did not snuggle with anyone else. It is so bonding that it keeps us together when we are apart months at a time, and as we face some serious, time-consuming challenging practical obstacles that we need to overcome in order to be together.

    I am so grateful now that that bonding was reserved all for SLI, and no one else. Having waited makes it better! I can only describe it as being like eating a taste of very fine food after a very long fast. Only when you are truly hungry can you appreciate the subtleties of the food.

    Of course it doesn't stop there and desire makes it seem impossible to stop at "just snuggling" so that's the ongoing challenge we face now. And we aren't perfect. But we know how to do the impossible: we need God's help.

    So, back to this professional snuggler. In my opinion, she is wasting her gift spreading it far and wide, and for a price, too. It takes away from the preciousness of the one-on-one, with one she would love someday. She is in fact selling her body and her intimacy, and even though it falls far short of prostitution, it is on that continuum. According to God's law, prostitution is wrong. And IMO, since all of God's laws are written in our hearts, that's why it offends most people. Yes, its not politically or culturally acceptable to be offended by prostitution, however the fact is most people are offended at the thought of themselves being a prostitute, even if they advocate for others to, sort of like the usual attitude towards abortion ["Well, I would never, but others can if they want!"].

    So her snuggle-intimately-with-anyone is a turn-off to me but I would never be one of those who send her scourging emails telling her so. Because I can only assume she is doing what her [uninformed] conscience tells her is a way that is okay. But I know that our ways are not God's ways. I know that I am blessed to know the reality that "There is a way which seemeth right unto man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.-Proverbs 14:12 and doing what God says is wrong leads to kinds of deaths, deaths of goods that God intended for us to have.

    He designed sexual intimacy and He knows what we should do to have the best kind. The best kind is in love, not lust, and the best kind is exclusive. Not only because he designed our bodies that way [and our bodies suffer when exposed to to many lovers, as it is against His design, and our bodies cannot take it physically, and disease results] but also doing opposite of what He says robs us of the joy of intimacy. Our hearts aren't designed to enjoy loving intimacy with that many people. That's my thought, and I am convinced its true, particularly as my experience confirms it.

    And for those who have chosen a completely other way of life, against God's ways, damaging their hearts and bodies with intimacy with many people, there is hope for you, too, to enjoy love in the fullness that God intended, as His forgiveness for our errors is complete, and there is always a new beginning.

    If anyone has seen Mel Gibson's The Passion, when Jesus, bloodied and exhausted, greets His mother on the Way to the Cross, and He says, "See, Mother? I make all things new." This is what He meant. He does make all things new.

    Remember God does not love any of us any bit less for choosing to do it our way instead of His (if He did that would make him unjust, since He gave us the choice of free will. And He is perfectly just!). He only grieves for what we have lost, since He loves us and wants the best for us.

    I venture to say He loves the transgressor more, as in the story of the lost sheep. He restores. Just as He restored Mary of Magdala, after years of prostitution, He forgave her, and healed her, and renewed her, and she was made so new that only months (or a year or so, we don't know exactly) after living completely immersed in a life of mortal sin He told her always-chaste sister Martha that her sister Mary "has exceeded you in loving". And He, Who is Love, favored she whom He praised for her love with being the first to see Him when He raised Himself from dead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    Having waited makes it better!
    Waited for what? What additional value does waiting bring to an activity? I was probably a few years older than the average person before I snuggled with anyone. Do you think this means it was better for me than for the average person?
    How how could you possibly know it was better that you "waited", when you don't have any experience on what it would've been like if you hadn't done se? Why do you think the experience would be the same for everyone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    I can only describe it as being like eating a taste of very fine food after a very long fast. Only when you are truly hungry can you appreciate the subtleties of the food.
    If you wait for too long you might die of malnutrition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I permit no women to teach or have authority over men, she is to keep silent." 1 Timothy 2:9-12
    Aquagraph, Thank you for sharing.

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