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    Default dichotomies that get confused for eachother

    holographic cognition and ne?
    fi creative and merry?
    democratic and judicious?

    discuss.

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    introversion and weak ethics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    introversion and weak ethics.
    Please dont kill me :[

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    Discribe how creaetive Fi could be taken as Fe...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    Discribe how creaetive Fi could be taken as Fe...
    it just happens fairly often. i suppose because fi creatives are often pretty emotionally expressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    Discribe how creaetive Fi could be taken as Fe...
    Creative Fi (3D) = Demonstrative Fe (4D)
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    hmm... interesting. Can you girls find a video of SEE IEEs presenting an Fe illusion? Interesting stuff this is.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    hmm... interesting. Can you girls find a video of SEE IEEs presenting an Fe illusion? Interesting stuff this is.
    Why do you assume it would be an illusion?

    * The demonstrative function is as strong as the base function,
    * the demonstrative is a vital function not mental, it readily appears in a person's processing but not something they spend much time thinking about, "the functions in the vital ring tend to manifest themselves without words in the process of doing things or inadvertently in the form of spontaneous sentiments."
    * the demonstrative function is a contact function: "makes contact with one's environment very unconsciously; it acts with the conscious leading function to produce one's unique worldview, being just as strong as the base function."
    * the demonstrative function is an evaluatory function, these "evaluations are produced in favor of one's creative function, so it is taken less seriously even though an individual is quite sophisticated in that area."
    * the demonstrative function is a bold function, "Bold functions are used more freely than cautious functions, sometimes even in a way that makes a subdued function more heavily used than a valued function."

    Also,
    NeFi and FeNi have the exact same element strengths: 4D Fe/Ne; 3D Fi/Ni; 2D Se/Te; 1D Si/Ti
    SeFi and FeSi have the exact same element strengths: 4D Fe/Se; 3D Fi/Si; 2D Ne/Te; 1D Ni/Ti


    Basically, everything you associate as being a sign of Fe would show up in Fi creative types and could easily be confused if the typer did no more than a cursory 'observation'.
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    Well, yes, I understand that. But still can a person notice the difference between quasi-identicals? What are the tell tell signs? You see, I could end up marrying my conflictor if I cannot separate her from my dual!
     
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    Here's a video of a crochet teacher that is most definitely NeFi, but could easily be mistaken as an FeNi by someone who hasn't actually taken any of her classes.
    This is an advertisement for her class, one minute long, she shows up only a few times in it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=752JnMAz1x0

    Here is a demonstration of a crochet stitch on her crochet blog allowing you to hear her voice: http://www.freshstitches.com/crochet...igurumi-start/

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    As for telling them apart, try paying attention to how they usually approach things as they are trying to explain something. FeNi will dismiss Fi as being rather irrelevant to her point, just as NeFi would dismiss Ni as being irrelevant or 'not the point'.
    If you go by temperaments, EJs have more long lasting business even when they are exhausted, while EPs have fluctuating energies.
    Or you could use Reinin traits such as judicious (nefi) vs decisive (feni), etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    holographic cognition and ne?
    I think I'm at fault for confusing those two.
    Actually, I'm sure I do that.
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