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    John Heilemann: I don’t think he doesn’t like people. I know he doesn’t like people. He’s not an extrovert; he’s an introvert. I’ve known the guy since 1988. He’s not someone who has a wide circle of friends. He’s not a backslapper and he’s not an arm-twister. He’s a more or less solitary figure who has extraordinary communicative capacities. He’s incredibly intelligent, but he’s not a guy who’s ever had a Bill Clinton-like network around him. He’s not the guy up late at night working the speed dial calling mayors, calling governors, calling CEOs. People say about Obama that it’s a mistake that he hasn’t reached out more to Republicans on Capitol Hill. I say that may be a mistake, but he also hasn’t reached out to Democrats on Capitol Hill. If you walk around [the convention] and button-hole any Democratic Senator you find on the street and ask them how many times they have received a call [from the President] to talk about politics, to talk about legislative strategy, I guarantee you won’t find a lot of people who have gotten one phone call in the last two and a half years. And many of them have never been called.
    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...rt-white-house

    those of you who typed him ENFj... back to the drawing board.

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    I thought consensus was he was ISFj?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I thought consensus was he was ISFj?
    this is the16types.info. there is no consensus on anyones type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I thought consensus was he was ISFj?
    Beta NF typings including ENFj have always been very common.

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    Yeah I think the two most common typings are IEI and ESI.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    I think LIE is most likely. But he is hard to type. But he seems very EJ. (If Michelle is EII they can be semiduals)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    I think LIE is most likely. But he is hard to type. But he seems very EJ. (If Michelle is EII they can be semiduals)
    Michelle is LSE by my typing. I don't see how she could be EII, she's far too dynamic (non-Socioncs) and lively and spunky...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Obama is IEE. Michelle is LIE.

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    Obama sides himself with extremists. He has a history of siding with people that are against western aggression and he's implemented many measures as president to make america socialist (to diminish that), and some even claim also to destroy western society by adding debt instead of dealing with that debt - spending that borrowed money on programs that weren't aimed at helping to alleviate US dependence on foreign resources or increase US production of exports, which is what is needed to balance the debt.

    It's weird then that he seems to favor impoverishment of one group of people for the benefit of the rest or another, rather than look at ways to benefit everyone. If introverted feeling is what drives him, then holy shit, because his Fi is pretty twisted and he probably has some crazy complexes overriding the soundness of his aims.

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    Socialism in America or whatever it is called died a quick death a long time ago. And socialism is favouring one class over another, so you're stupid. Sorry to hear that.

    As for Obama, I am fine with him being Ashton's dual. I like the fireworks during Independence Day.

    And I'm going to get "supervised" real soon.

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    ENFP

    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I thought consensus was he was ISFj?
    there was no consensus about his type, like about any other's type

    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Socialism in America or whatever it is called died a quick death a long time ago. And socialism is favouring one class over another
    Main idea of socialism - equality of _all_ people, economical collectivism on nation level. You are badly educated and a little stupid.
    Last edited by Sol; 09-16-2012 at 09:55 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    ENFP
    Now, type him in Socionics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Main idea of socialism - equality of _all_ people, economical collectivism on nation level. You are badly educated and a little stupid.
    You're stupider than stupid, then, that is dumb fucking stupid. Marx and Lenin disagrees with a puny Russian like yourself who can't even get it right. Socialism implies the performance of work without the aid of capitalists.

    So shove that empty slogans up your arse. For those are just slogans. All this talk about reality and people are still illiterate. Egalitarianism you speak of can be achieved only after disposing of bourgeoisie. Main premise of any socialist society. Unless the Communist Party of Russian Federation sees the United Russia as equals in your part of a fairy tale.

    Heh and I was correct about the"supervision" part once again. Sol, do me a favour a start self-typing Gamma...
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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    That is confirmed here as he judges an object with base Fi:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/...dges-a-sausage

    And then affects an object with creative Se:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczyn...ours-a-sausage

    lol... "he proclaimed it 'tasty'"

    That was cute.. thanks for sharing Korpsy!
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    From this article..

    He really worked his way through an idea or question, turned it over, looked at it from all sides, and then he came to a precise and elegant conclusion.
    ..very similar to Gulenko's description of Holographic-Panoramic cognitive style:

    LII grasps the problem from opposite sides, mentally rotating the situation in three dimensions around its semantic axes
    First, it is multi-perspective. As already stated, because of this it attains a dimensionally holistic and complete depiction. Second, it values simplicity and clarity, avoids pretentiousness, and forgoes 'bells and whistles'.
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    ESI is holographic too...
     
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    Obama - ENFj
    Michelle - INFp

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    Obama VIs as SEE. Confirm.








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    Seriously.
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    No to this whole thread.

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    My ex-boyfriend thought he VI'd LII. Yet my ex-boyfriend self-typed LII (INTj).

    Obama: Ne-INTj (Creative subtype) [LII-IEE? or LII-SEE?]

    Michelle: Si-ESFj (Harmonizing subtype) [ESE-SLI? or ESE-ILI?]
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    Gamma and not Beta? I thought his style was inspirational above all; this is, say nice things to people but do nothing. This points for NF. But he lacks the energy and social drive of an EIE, so I believe he's IEI.

    A very smart IEI is likely to be a little misahtropist. Well, like any true smart person..
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    Obama seems obviously IJ and Fi valuing to me. His diction and speaking persona are nearly identical to my father, EII-Fi
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
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    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    The name Barack Obamas hebrew translation = lightning from heaven. This is a common kabbalist meme found throughout the torah and in the tarot. The meme is instinctually recognized and can be used as a subliminal metaphor.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tower_%28Tarot_card%29

    lightning from heaven represents catastrophe originating beyond peoples control. You will notice this is the theme of his entire presidency. Shit happens, but it isn't his fault. This is conveyed to us very intentionally, sometimes overtly and sometimes subtley.
    For instance on the day he was inaugurated, the man reading the presidents vows stumbled over his own words, and screwed up the vowing in. And in response the president was thrown off and stuttered, and they had to redo the vows. And this was televised everywhere, and the news reporters were all saying "yeah but it wasnt his fault, the man misread his vows".
    A couple weeks back at the democratic convention, it was first televised the event was rained out. So the Obama campaign had a slogan response to the convention being rained out, which is "we're not gona let a little thunder and lightning get us down." Again it conveys that events beyond his control have caused crisis, but we're going to struggle on through them.
    The economic crisis not being Obamas fault seems to be a catchphrase amongst his supporters.

    In short Barack Obama, even by his own name, is a kabbalist puppet. He exists to convey the subliminal message of crisis not being his fault. avoiding an outcry and stringing you along, giving you the illusion of control while events continue to spiral out. Discussing what he "thinks", whether he "likes people" is absurd. His feelings have zero impact on decisions being made. His only purpose is to scam us into believing he is in charge. We should not pay him any attention; not him or Romney.
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    Worthless

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratremix View Post
    Worthless
    No worries, crazie rat, you're useless to me as well. I wouldn't know what to do with you nor gain anything from mingling with your kind.

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    Well I can't drink alcohol any longer. So that's out the window.

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    VI typed him SEE.

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    He is a subdued ENFj, I know my own type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    VI typed him SEE.
    No

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    Aw, but he's not cool enough to be. Something else, something else...

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    I have no clue what Obama's type is.

    What I know is:
    1) He's a pussy.
    2) He's a liar.
    3) He's selfish.

    What does that make him type-wise?

    OOps, forgot:

    4) He's a fucking idiot.

    Enneagram-wise, I would guess him as a 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet city woman View Post
    I have no clue what Obama's type is.

    What I know is:
    1) He's a pussy.
    2) He's a liar.
    3) He's selfish.

    What does that make him type-wise?

    OOps, forgot:

    4) He's a fucking idiot.

    Enneagram-wise, I would guess him as a 3.

    He's destroying my 'Murkan dream.

    I bet there are a lot of idiots out there that wish they could graduate magna cum laude from Harvard Law. One can say a lot of things about Obama, but the suggestion that he is "an idiot" makes you look rather dim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    He's destroying my 'Murkan dream.

    I bet there are a lot of idiots out there that wish they could graduate magna cum laude from Harvard Law. One can say a lot of things about Obama, but the suggestion that he is "an idiot" makes you look rather dim.
    Scape, ffs, I don't even know whether to punch you or hug you. You're just confused.

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    I know. I'm one of those "idiots," like Doh!bama.
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