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    What is my E type, specifically those things called "instinctual stackings"? I've been told I'm a 9w1, which seemed to make sense when I read some descriptions eons ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    What is my E type, specifically those things called "instinctual stackings"? I've been told I'm a 9w1, which seemed to make sense when I read some descriptions eons ago.
    9w1 fits you well imo and I have no problem with that. As for instinctual stacking, you come across as sp first to me, but I'm not so sure about your secondary instinct as I can see you as sp/so, but I wouldn't rule out sp/sx. You should check out this link btw as its very helpful for deciphering instinctual stackings: http://ocean-moonshine.net/e14285736...position=80:80
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    Social first.

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    have you considered 1?

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    my gut instinct says E1 or E9 sp/sx, you remind me so much of my sister-in-law for whom I'm stuck between the same typings. you seem a bit more restrained than E9s are IME, more in control...but maybe that could just be sp-first.

    I like this chart for explaining the differences between sp, sx and so: http://www.enneagram.net/subtypeschart.html
    + these descriptions: http://ocean-moonshine.net/e14285736...position=80:80

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    E9 sounds good.

    ...sx last please, so I'm not the only one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    E9 sounds good.

    ...sx last please, so I'm not the only one.
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    Don't forget krig and ESC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    you seem a bit more restrained than E9s are IME, more in control...
    this is my impression too. not that it's impossible, i see it as likelier than several other types, but i could more easily see you as a 1.

    as for instincts my only impression is that sx-first is unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    9w1 fits you well imo and I have no problem with that. As for instinctual stacking, you come across as sp first to me, but I'm not so sure about your secondary instinct as I can see you as sp/so, but I wouldn't rule out sp/sx. You should check out this link btw as its very helpful for deciphering instinctual stackings: http://ocean-moonshine.net/e14285736...position=80:80
    The link appears broken.

    Is there anything that makes sp seem likely for me?


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    Social first.
    Why?


    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    my gut instinct says E1 or E9 sp/sx, you remind me so much of my sister-in-law for whom I'm stuck between the same typings. you seem a bit more restrained than E9s are IME, more in control...but maybe that could just be sp-first.

    I like this chart for explaining the differences between sp, sx and so: http://www.enneagram.net/subtypeschart.html
    + these descriptions: http://ocean-moonshine.net/e14285736...position=80:80
    Thanks for the links.

    E9s are not restrained? What kinds of things might set them off that a 1 would be better able to handle?


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    have you considered 1?
    I have, yes. From what I remember I related more to E9. I don't mind reconsidering, though.


    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    this is my impression too. not that it's impossible, i see it as likelier than several other types, but i could more easily see you as a 1.

    as for instincts my only impression is that sx-first is unlikely.
    What sorts of things have I said/done here that point more toward 1 than 9?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    The link appears broken.

    Is there anything that makes sp seem likely for me?
    http://ocean-moonshine.net/e14285736...position=80:80

    I fixed it, it looks like Radio linked it too anyways. You seem like a very private person to me in that you don't want to reveal too much about yourself, which is what I identify with sp firsts. I'm not sure about your second instinct, but I guess so is the most likely with sx remaining a possibility. The chart that radio gave should help you in deciphering which one would fit you better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    I fixed it, it looks like Radio linked it too anyways.
    Thanks!


    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    You seem like a very private person to me in that you don't want to reveal too much about yourself, which is what I identify with sp firsts. I'm not sure about your second instinct, but I guess so is the most likely with sx remaining a possibility.
    Yeah, I do tend to be pretty private, though I don't think I necessarily consciously try to hide - not when in person, anyway. In fact, I think if anyone were to just observe me they'd see a whole lot, including things I'm not trying to express. Privacy is a habit of self-preservation, yes, but also... not wanting to "invade" other people by pushing my own self on them. Probably not very rational, but there it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    The chart that radio gave should help you in deciphering which one would fit you better.
    I could do a lot of this research on my own, and I probably will a bit. But part of why I'm asking here is that I want a perspective outside of my own. I could match up myself with descriptions as per how I see myself, and be perfectly accurate and have a solid self-typing. But there are things about myself that I can't see or understand as well from my own perspective (that's true of everybody). So someone else can just as easily have an accurate, solid typing of me that's a bit different, because that's how they perceive me, how I am to them. Things like that give me a more holistic picture of things, which I find helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Thanks!
    You're welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Yeah, I do tend to be pretty private, though I don't think I necessarily consciously try to hide - not when in person, anyway. In fact, I think if anyone were to just observe me they'd see a whole lot, including things I'm not trying to express. Privacy is a habit of self-preservation, yes, but also... not wanting to "invade" other people by pushing my own self on them. Probably not very rational, but there it is.
    Yeah, this is primarily why I felt sp first made a lot of sense for you as for sx dominants tend to be intense, so dominants are open and sp dominants are closed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    I could do a lot of this research on my own, and I probably will a bit. But part of why I'm asking here is that I want a perspective outside of my own. I could match up myself with descriptions as per how I see myself, and be perfectly accurate and have a solid self-typing. But there are things about myself that I can't see or understand as well from my own perspective (that's true of everybody). So someone else can just as easily have an accurate, solid typing of me that's a bit different, because that's how they perceive me, how I am to them. Things like that give me a more holistic picture of things, which I find helpful.
    That's true. As for different typings of you I guess I can see 1w9 as a possibility like others have mentioned in this thread. So basically I'd say you are either 9w1 or 1w9 and sp/so or sp/sx if I had to narrow it down to the most likely typings. 1w9 seems plausible in that you seem to have more control of your life then a typical 9w1 would, but that could be non-enneagram related.
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    So you settled on E9 long time ago, fine. Check this out: click me - I know it is nothing conclusive in most cases, but just a step one might/might not take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    As for different typings of you I guess I can see 1w9 as a possibility like others have mentioned in this thread. So basically I'd say you are either 9w1 or 1w9 and sp/so or sp/sx if I had to narrow it down to the most likely typings. 1w9 seems plausible in that you seem to have more control of your life then a typical 9w1 would, but that could be non-enneagram related.
    I have a vote for sp or sx first, from outside this forum.

    Are 9w1s considered out of control?


    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    So you settled on E9 long time ago, fine. Check this out: click me - I know it is nothing conclusive in most cases, but just a step one might/might not take.
    Thanks for the link. I shall try it. And then pester you for your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    I have a vote for sp or sx first, from outside this forum.

    Are 9w1s considered out of control?
    Interesting, if people are considering you as sx first then that would lean towards sp/sx being more likely than sp/so. I wouldn't say 9w1s are out of control, just compared to 1w9s they are less in control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Interesting, if people are considering you as sx first then that would lean towards sp/sx being more likely than sp/so. I wouldn't say 9w1s are out of control, just compared to 1w9s they are less in control.
    Not to be pedantic, but what does it mean to be in control? Like, goal-setting and focused and driven in a, I dunno, careerish sense? Or more like not-scattered, capable and having it together in daily life? Or something else? (I admit, I might be focusing a little too much on this detail...)

    And, yeah, they said my focus is much more personal than a so would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Not to be pedantic, but what does it mean to be in control? Like, goal-setting and focused and driven in a, I dunno, careerish sense? Or more like not-scattered, capable and having it together in daily life? Or something else? (I admit, I might be focusing a little too much on this detail...)

    And, yeah, they said my focus is much more personal than a so would be.
    The way I saw in control was pretty much the way you defined it and of course these things could also be based on health levels as a healthy 9 or 1 would have more control of their lives than an unhealthy 9 or 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Thanks for the link. I shall try it. And then pester you for your opinion.
    Sounds fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Sounds fair.
    It might take a couple of weeks. The chances of me accessing the interwebz the next little while is rather low, and since that's a web-based test...

    Where I'm going there's supposedly going to be an Enneagram thingy, and one of my companions showed interest in going, so I might go with him. Then I might come back an expert, or a guru even. Watch out; I know what you think of gurus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    It might take a couple of weeks. The chances of me accessing the interwebz the next little while is rather low, and since that's a web-based test...

    Where I'm going there's supposedly going to be an Enneagram thingy, and one of my companions showed interest in going, so I might go with him. Then I might come back an expert, or a guru even. Watch out; I know what you think of gurus.
    Alright, I'm looking forward to it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    So you settled on E9 long time ago, fine. Check this out: click me - I know it is nothing conclusive in most cases, but just a step one might/might not take.
    Hijack

    They always want to give me 7/8

    You are most likely a type 7 (the Enthusiast) with 8 wing

    Social variant


    Type 7 SO
    Type 8 SO
    Type 3 SX
    Type 2 SX
    Type 4 SX
    Type 1 SX
    Type 9 SX
    Type 6 SX
    Type 5 SX
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    E3 and E7 I seem to have slight problems with, as in discerning between the two for greater efficiency in individuals like you on a forum like this. People are deceptive and it takes time to break through that facade. Given those three I bet you have accounts from people that do know you.

    You can always ditch it completely for it is just Enneagram, like many more things. Not kidding. Just observe people on here and how they actually break it by E-type/Sociotype correlations and still swim in it convinced it is fine.

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    I mean, I'm a 3w4, there's not really a doubt in my mind about that. I just find it odd I test as 7 and 8 more frequently.

    /hijack, back to minde plz
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I mean, I'm a 3w4, there's not really a doubt in my mind about that. I just find it odd I test as 7 and 8 more frequently.

    /hijack, back to minde plz
    It's just a test...

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    UDP has met me and says I'm definitely a 9. Apparently I make decisions like one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Hijack

    They always want to give me 7/8

    You are most likely a type 7 (the Enthusiast) with 8 wing

    Social variant


    Type 7 SO
    Type 8 SO
    Type 3 SX
    Type 2 SX
    Type 4 SX
    Type 1 SX
    Type 9 SX
    Type 6 SX
    Type 5 SX
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    Bumping because now I'm curious about my instinct stacking. Sp first has been suggested to me.

    Anyone who's interacted with (or stalked) me, what do you think?

    Here's a page that has 9w1 descriptions of each of the different ones. I can see a bit of me in almost all of them...
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    Oh, and I finally took the test Absurd linked to:

    You are most likely a type 9 (the Peacemaker) with 1 wing

    Self-preservation variant


    Type 9 SP
    Type 6 SO
    Type 5 SO
    Type 1 SP
    Type 4 SP
    Type 2 SP
    Type 3 SP
    Type 7 SO
    Type 8 SX
    So... there's that.
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