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    FUCK THEM. Hot/Cold bullshit. I rather you just fucking tell me you don't like me instead of playing stupid ass games. Makes me angry, I try to be a nice guy but no one ever respects that shit. They must like to toy with my feelings. Im just going to shit on everybody from now on fuck it.

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    Bwahahahahahahaha.

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    is this a pattern or just one person?

    shitting on everyone would probably bring some short term satisfaction but it will eventually come back on you and make things even worse.

    what's your avatar btw, it doesn't show up for me

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    what happened?
     
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    To be honest, I find IEIs that annoying mixture of 'everyone must get along' with 'heres a bundle of perfect ideals which I expect everyone to follow while getting along OR ELSE'. Hence the remarkably poor grip on reality.

    They also have that ugly habit of grabbing onto empathy to justify deviating from a promise.

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    lol that's the victim mentally summed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    To be honest, I find IEIs that annoying mixture of 'everyone must get along' with 'heres a bundle of perfect ideals which I expect everyone to follow while getting along OR ELSE'. Hence the remarkably poor grip on reality.
    eii is what came to mind when I read this

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    eii is what came to mind when I read this
    Nah; they have linear decision making paradigms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    To be honest, I find IEIs that annoying mixture of 'everyone must get along' with 'heres a bundle of perfect ideals which I expect everyone to follow while getting along OR ELSE'. Hence the remarkably poor grip on reality.

    They also have that ugly habit of grabbing onto empathy to justify deviating from a promise.




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    DO I GIVE A FUCK!? NO! FUCK IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Bwahahahahahahaha.

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    Bwahahahahahhahahahahahaha.
    Get the fuck out of my thread you swine.

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    I'm sorry Agee... it's just this one that's giving you trouble. So much of it has nothing to do with type. You'll find the right one someday.
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    What....you've been watching too much FUCKING DISNEY! FUCK THAT RIGHT ONE. I DONT GIVE A FUCK ANYMORE.

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    Just stop going after IEIs. Easy!
    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    .................................................. .........BITCH PLEASE!

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    Plenty of people of other types pull the same hot/cold schtick to rope potential partners in because they get off on making hapless people work for it and on being the one in control. IEIs don't hold the patent on this behavior.

    Sure it's tough to find someone who is on the same page as you re: game playing, especially if you are young, and it sucks. But not all IEIs are so...Victim-y. Personally, the only time I find myself being vague with a guy is when my feelings about him are confusing and I can't quite parse them yet. If a guy were to ask me straight-up how I felt about him in that case, I'd be honest, but it's never happened. I don't know many men, especially "nice guys," who have the balls to ask and then simply walk away if they're getting the hot/cold treatment.

    Can I get a personalized "fuck off" now?

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    Life can suck bigtime so I am liking your new user name Agee

    No need to focus on finding the right one as there are plenty of right ones in this world who all turn out to be wrong in so many ways. Just be happy with yourself and maybe one day you'll find someone who kind of completes you, ticks all those subconscious boxes and has stolen your heart, until then why bother having your life and feelings etc all stuffed up as you can do more for this world and yourself alone at times or with people who you are not romantically tied up with - so say I somewhat hypocritically as I have mostly been living a pretty ok & sometimes la vida loca with my SO for many years.
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    Okay. So. In other words. Its best if I just give up and kill myself. Okay. Gotcha. Doing that real soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolShrimp View Post
    Plenty of people of other types pull the same hot/cold schtick to rope potential partners in because they get off on making hapless people work for it and on being the one in control. IEIs don't hold the patent on this behavior.

    Sure it's tough to find someone who is on the same page as you re: game playing, especially if you are young, and it sucks. But not all IEIs are so...Victim-y. Personally, the only time I find myself being vague with a guy is when my feelings about him are confusing and I can't quite parse them yet. If a guy were to ask me straight-up how I felt about him in that case, I'd be honest, but it's never happened. I don't know many men, especially "nice guys," who have the balls to ask and then simply walk away if they're getting the hot/cold treatment.

    Can I get a personalized "fuck off" now?
    No, you haven't got on my nerves yet.

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    Okay. So. In other words. Its best if I just give up and kill myself. Okay. Gotcha. Doing that real soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolShrimp View Post
    Plenty of people of other types pull the same hot/cold schtick to rope potential partners in because they get off on making hapless people work for it and on being the one in control. IEIs don't hold the patent on this behavior.
    I personally think that a lot of those "play games with your man" advice books are tailored to rope in SLEs. They're basically a guide in "how to be frustratingly IEI"
    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    Mind games are for wimps....but that's strange, from my experiences IEI are one of the least likely types to play those Hot/Cold bullshit games, at least consciously .

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    I try to be a nice guy
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    IEIs... are as often confused as deliberately deceptive. Although I can imagine a scenario wherein an IEI realizes the advantages gained by ambiguity, and then begins to intentionally "produce" ambivalence, rather than feeling it naturally. You should be able to tell the difference, I think.

    In any case, I'm sorry you're having romantic problems. Directness and honesty are the best policies! (on a related note, I've been watching movies lately, and it seems---at least in indie-ish movies---that honest is the new sexy, for real. I think it shows confidence for a man to be upfront about how he feels, and confidence is sexy to women. Also also that's why exaggerated "honesty" doesn't work---it's still not being confident enough, it's still hiding behind something, rather than being honest about feelings).
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

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    Get the fuck out of my thread you swine.
    You have me mixed up with some other different member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life Sucks View Post
    No, you haven't got on my nerves yet.
    Well damn. Guess I have to try harder.

    Quote Originally Posted by octo View Post
    I personally think that a lot of those "play games with your man" advice books are tailored to rope in SLEs. They're basically a guide in "how to be frustratingly IEI"
    Heh, I could see that. I really have no tolerance for that sort of bullshit anymore, though; doesn't seem like a good way to start a stable long-term relationship with an honest and open line of communication. I'm a failure of an IEI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life Sucks View Post
    Okay. So. In other words. Its best if I just give up and kill myself. Okay. Gotcha. Doing that real soon.
    sorry agee, life treating you so poorly, not handing you IEIs on a silver platter and making you put in actual effort into your relationships, that's just unfair and it totally warrants throwing a childish tantrum on the forums over it and blaming IEIs for all your troubles

    how about instead of whining you either learn and adapt, or suck it up and deal /beta advice

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    I thought you SLEs were on top of the world!

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    I actually love those games. But it's common to hate what you are constantly bad at and love what you are good at. Hint hint.

    All I'm trying to say: You have failed continously, you have a defeatist mentality, have a noose.
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    ITT: a self-typed infantile who loves victim games, and a self-typed aggressor who hates them. HMMM...
    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octo View Post
    ITT: a self-typed infantile who loves victim games, and a self-typed aggressor who hates them. HMMM...
    Gulenko is an idiot. It's true.
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    Read a few PU artist, you will be able to slay IEI pretty easily. With IEI's you have to walk the line between treating them as a disposable sex object and a princess, the key is to never show weakness except to get them back or until you have them kinda of hooked.
    Also, always have another one waiting in the wing.

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    agee is harmless, i dont get why people hate on him so much. he's just young and emotional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandiAce View Post
    I thought you SLEs were on top of the world!
    Actually they're bottom of the well so one can throw bricks at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life Sucks View Post
    FUCK THEM. Hot/Cold bullshit. I rather you just fucking tell me you don't like me instead of playing stupid ass games. Makes me angry, I try to be a nice guy but no one ever respects that shit. They must like to toy with my feelings. Im just going to shit on everybody from now on fuck it.
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    I dunno. Isn't duality supposed to happen naturally? Playing games to hook someone sounds like what one would do if he/she was to attract someone who's not naturally suited for him/her...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Gulenko is an idiot. It's true.
    I was under the impression that romantic styles was one of the few things most people agreed on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octo View Post
    I was under the impression that romantic styles was one of the few things most people agreed on.
    *shrugs* It might be. I think they are very often not in line with observed behavior though. I also view them as 'half-truths' so to speak. To me they are a lot like the definition of Introversion/Extroversion in MBTI. Saying that because someone likes to party they are necessarily extroverted is very superficial criteria and also not universally true of that individual, what if they're depressed and don't want to go out? Are they introverted now? What of the introvert who just feels like cutting loose? Are they now extroverted? Same thing with romantic styles. It all fluxuates based on mood and where a person is in their life. In other words it's too malleable to be of any practical use. It also doesn't account for the individual in it's categorization. Which always bothers me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    *shrugs* It might be. I think they are very often not in line with observed behavior though. I also view them as 'half-truths' so to speak. To me they are a lot like the definition of Introversion/Extroversion in MBTI. Saying that because someone likes to party they are necessarily extroverted is very superficial criteria and also not universally true of that individual, what if they're depressed and don't want to go out? Are they introverted now? What of the introvert who just feels like cutting loose? Are they now extroverted? Same thing with romantic styles. It all fluxuates based on mood and where a person is in their life. In other words it's too malleable to be of any practical use. It also doesn't account for the individual in it's categorization. Which always bothers me.
    But like everything else behavioural in socionics, it's not supposed to predict anything with certainty, just identify natural, default behaviours and preferences, where the individual feels comfortable most of the time and what they end up doing most often. Recurring patterns and tendencies in behaviour, not restrictive/prescriptive behavioural limits.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octo View Post
    But like everything else behavioural in socionics, it's not supposed to predict anything with certainty, just identify natural, default behaviours and preferences, where the individual feels comfortable most of the time and what they end up doing most often. Recurring patterns and tendencies in behaviour, not restrictive/prescriptive behavioural limits.
    I suppose I gave them too much credit. You're right. I just don't think they describe a pattern of individual behavior at all. A lot like some extroverts never really want to party and some introverts always do. Well that in mind, I suppose it does describe a pattern but in my experience it's just not a pattern that matches up with reality the way it purports to. For example ITT Agee hating cat n mouse even though he's suppose to love that shit. Maybe agee never ever will love cat and mouse, which is a pattern of behavior that is described by romance styles, but isn't the correct one that is supposed to apply to agee.

    For me personally, I'm all over the place. I can say with some certainty that I don't enjoy being the less forward one, I.E. the victim, as I shouldn't enjoy. I however very much will be incredibly forward, act in a way that incites the other to take care of me, or act to take care of others without entwining my own needs into that behavior. My behavior is much more dependent on my mood and the other person, I adapt to external and internal input. There is no rule to behavioral adaptation.
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