Gamma duality descriptions by Gulenko ISFj-ENTj INTp-ESFp

[silke]

A translation of Victor Gulenko's short duality descriptions.


ESI-LIE duality
ILI-SEE duality


++added: see also Duality observations

[Korpsy Knievel]

Completely misses the constant oscillation of fucking and fighting in ILI-SEE duality.

[JWC3]

I AM THE INCREDIBLE EMOTIONAL TANK!

I keep ALL the squishies safe!

Seriously though, this is a dumb description.

[blackburry]

I can't even get through reading it... it's like trying to read ingredients on a carton when I don't care nor know what they even are...
bad translations maybe?

LIE-ESI is kind of robotic. but in an affectionate way.

[ashlesha]

I can even get through reading it... it's like trying to read ingredients on a carton when I don't care nor know what they even are...
bad translations maybe?

LIE-ESI is kind of robotic. but in an affectionate way.

lol, robotic was the word I used in the chat box this morning too.

SEEs might be masochists.

[blackburry]

Of all the ESIs and LIEs I know both types seem to be picky and like a person to behave a certain way.. both like space. both like teasing and sarcastic jokes. neither likes to be suffocated or asked how they're feeling all the friggin time.

[JWC3]

SEEs might be masochists.

*shrugs* Depends on the source. The romantic in me is inclined to agree with you though.

[ashlesha]

*shrugs* Depends on the source. The romantic in me is inclined to agree with you though.

which do you prefer - fucking or fighting?

[JWC3]

which do you prefer - fucking or fighting?

*chuckles* I uh... um... I'd rather not. I just, I'm not really drunk enough to talk about how I feel about either one of those things.

[FDG]

The description makes sense but it seems to be strictly behavioral i.e. doesn't even try to catch any deeper relational nuances. But well, it's okay in its own right.

[InvisibleJim]

ILI should periodically bring in money or other resources, that he collects through various channels and usually from a large territory. Otherwise SEE will start to behave aggressively and unceremoniously

Sounds like those ILIs weren't proviing sufficient jewelery to their mistresses.

[ashlesha]

The description makes sense but it seems to be strictly behavioral i.e. doesn't even try to catch any deeper relational nuances. But well, it's okay in its own right.

where is a good place to read about the deeper relational nuances?

[wacey]

where is a good place to read about the deeper relational nuances?

you always get to the heart of everything it's great.

[Creepy-]

The way this duality is described makes it seem very unappealing, not all of us want to be with gold diggers

[Korpsy Knievel]

The way this duality is described makes it seem very unappealing, not all of us want to be with gold diggers

That's because it describes dumb stereotypes, not actual people. Welcome to socionics.

[FDG]

I was just thinking, this (LIE-ESI) duality description can perhaps be considered really good for business partnerships, since it's so focussed on work. Only marginally applies to romantic relationships, or rather, the "terms" should be translated in non-business language.

[Korpsy Knievel]

I was just thinking, this (LIE-ESI) duality description can perhaps be considered really good for business partnerships, since it's so focussed on work. Only marginally applies to romantic relationships, or rather, the "terms" should be translated in non-business language.

[mu4]

The way this duality is described makes it seem very unappealing, not all of us want to be with gold diggers

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[Alomoes]

Oh nice. Attracting both types huh.

[carrina]

I AM THE INCREDIBLE EMOTIONAL TANK!

I keep ALL the squishies safe!

Seriously though, this is a dumb description.

Yeah I agree. this sucks.

[carrina]

Why Gamma Duality Works:
I watched this whole thing in awe.

[carrina]

where is a good place to read about the deeper relational nuances?

Deep within your introspective heart.

[wacey]

Why Gamma Duality Works:
I watched this whole thing in awe.

Are you horny or something? The whole video is kind of bizarrely erotic, unintentionally so I assume....

"like a swarm of bees, a deep metal wall moves towards its target before penetrating the outer and inner layers..."

[carrina]

Are you horny or something? The whole video is kind of bizarrely erotic, unintentionally so I assume....

"like a swarm of bees, a deep metal wall moves towards its target before penetrating the outer and inner layers..."

HAHA what??
this absolutely didn't cross my mind at all. I'm literally interested in how things work.
I'm highly more interested in humans when it comes to what I find arousing.

(edited to say "highly" instead of "slightly")

[carrina]

I'll share the best duality description i've heard. (SEE/ILI; SLI/IEE)

"The issue of dependency versus space, is a conscious occupation of the ILI/SEE dyad, and also of the SLI/IEE dyad. Both dyads tend toward dependency, and realize individuality. In the ILI/SEE dyad, this dependency arises from a disposition of mercurial obsessiveness in consumption ("obsessive intimacy"; "obsession versus minimalism"). In the SLI/IEE dyad, the dependency arises from mercurial perceived limitations of the world ("interest versus boredom"; "freedom versus restriction"). The delta strategy (of avoidance and noncommitment) mitigates the question of dependency superficially relative to the gamma strategy (of consumption and activity), but not internally. I can not say it much more simply, at least not very easily. It is very difficult to understand if you have not seen it because superficially these types all merely appear "individualistic."
Credit for this explanation goes to aestrivex.