Please, PROVE ME WRONG
I think there's a chance I might be ILI
Please, PROVE ME WRONG
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
nah
Another expert has fallen. You socionics gurus drop like flies.
lmao that helped a bitOriginally Posted by labster
but these descriptions won't stop re-beckoning meeeeeeeeeee
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
Which descriptions are they? The MBTI ones or the Socionics ones?
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
Socionics and my quest to reconcile the two systems which may not even be possible
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
I see, I say this only because I related to the MBTI INTP descriptions in the past, but the ILI socionics descriptions not as much.
Anyways, I think LII fits you better as you seem to give off Alpha vibes to me as opposed to Gamma vibes./
over
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seems likely from reading your posts imo.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
I don't think you're going to, they're at odds for the most part. It's like tasting an apple and orange saying they're the same in taste when they're clearly not even though both fruit.
By the way, what are you in MBTI?
Ok here's the detailed situation:
Fit INTP and INTJ mbti descriptions for the most part
Fit INTp and INTj descriptions for the most part
Currently correlate Big 5 High/Low Conscientiousness to AT LEAST MBTI J/P
Am definitely Low Conscientiousness and therefore should be INTP MBTI
Am deciding between 2 possible correlations between MBTI and socionics
1. Direct transfer of 4 dichotomies work 100% of time, mbti functions are broken/misdistributed
2. J/P switch works 100% of time mbti functions are same as socionics are same as jung
Have thought 1. is the only possible explanation for the longest time but have been exploring possibility of 2. to reconcile the probably INTP and probably INTj situation
Have no trouble considering INTP as INTj, INTJ as INTp, INFP as INFj INFJ as INFp, ISTJ as ISTp, and ISTP as ISTj.
Get ultimately stuck when trying to consider ISFJ as ISFp and visa versa, and decide once again that #1 is much more likely. This is mostly because I can't consider socionics ISFj to be Low Conscientiousness by any stretch of the definition.
Direct transfer of 4 dichotomies leads me to INTP -> INTp.
So I guess its less about socionics descriptions and more about the correlation. But when I read the descriptions I can't count out either LII or ILI
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
ENTp, Socially introverted.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
Fe values
On these forums and elsewhere Ni tends to monopolize the realm of intuition and Ne is left with everything dumb, comedic, pop-culture-esque, etc. That could be what you have been suffering from.
Also, you probably relate to both irrationality/intuition and Ti ego, right?
Point 2 doesn't fit. If INTP equals INTj, INTJ equals INTp and so on, then ISFJ equals ISFp and ISFP equals ISFj per functions alone.
No comprende.Direct transfer of 4 dichotomies leads me to INTP -> INTp.
Very much yes, but extroverted? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
And "dumb"/comedic/whatever sounds like me too
ENTp may be more likely than INTp but only if I don't have any idea what extroverted means. I already don't know what socionics Rationality/Irrationality means so guess it wouldn't be surprising. Noone knows any ISFj's who are "underachievers"?
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
You sound Ti to me as far this alien theory is concerned.
LOL I remember showing Aleksei this exact quote with the same bold to try to convince him that he was ENTpILE Logical subtype (The Selector)
Victor Gulenko
Self-centred and pensive. Their ideas do not have direct connection with reality, for example philosophy, religion, bioenergetics etc. Their favourite occupation is comparing different logical systems. A type of office scientist. A very slim figure is characteristic for them. Angular in their movements, does not pay attention to external appearance, worry little about their health.
Someone tell me I can't be extroverted.
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
I see little to nothing Ti in Crispy's activity; he is all about data compilation, correlations, statistics. I see little to no interest in analysis and structural pattern matching.
Very much yes, but extroverted? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwNoone knows any ISFj's who are "underachievers"?
Fe valuesLOL I remember showing Aleksei this exact quote with the same bold to try to convince him that he was ENTp
good. coming from you, this confirms beyond any doubt that he is base Ti.
I lied, I actually strongly believe he is a Ti-Base. This confirms beyond any doubt that you are the most intelligent entity in the Universe.
I've always gotten Ne/Si vibes from you.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I'm going to masterbate to this thread later.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" isand not
That's the spirit!
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
Hahahahaha that was one of the big reasons I was hesitant to consider anything else but I decided a Filatova mistyping wouldn't be completely unpossible. Need better temperament descriptions stat!
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
I always thought you were ENTp crispy.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...nd-troubles-us
lol @ my exact situation. Strange that they said it arised from the LSI mask but very interesting. Looks like I'll have to attempt to figure out what extroversion/introversion RLY means.
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
Socionics type profiles were drafted on basis of Rational/Irrational dichotomy, which is defined by type's dominant function, while MBTI type profiles are based on Judger/Perceiver dichotomy, which is defined by type's highest order extraverted function. Leading function and highest order extroverted function are the same for extraverts, but they don't coincide for introverts, which is the source of the discrepancies in profiles between socionics and MBTI for introverted types.
For a type leading in Ti and auxiliary in Ne, socionics places emphasis on the features associated with this type's leading Ti function and hence will highlight its rational features. MBTI profiles though are based on highest order extroverted function, which happens to be an irrational function Ne, and thus MBTI profiles highlight irrational 'perceiver' aspects of this type. The two systems can be reconciled (#2 is true) once you see that they are describing opposite sides of the same coin - socionics is describing what can be seen at the heads side, while MBTI is describing what can be seen at its tails side of it, but the fact remains that it's the same coin (or type).
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Behavioraly you'd be one strange ILI if you were one.
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At this point leaning LII > ILE but fit both pretty well. Still can't see self as extrovert even after concentrating on only socionics descriptions of intro/extroversion
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
The fact you phrase it this way proves you're LII.Or at least Alpha NT, as opposed to Gamma NT.
Theoretically there's a 'CHANCE' I could be ILI also. The dichotomies/MBTI/Big 5 conversions don't always match up perfectly.
there is zero chance you could be iliThe fact you phrase it this way proves you're LII.
Theoretically there's a 'CHANCE' I could be ILI also. The dichotomies/MBTI/Big 5 conversions don't always match up perfectly.
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