Last edited by female; 07-09-2015 at 09:49 AM. Reason: added WA
I've been meaning to try it, but it's pretty expensive and my combo of Revlon Colorstay liquid foundation and MAC Studiofix powder works well for me, so I can't really justify buying it.
Do wanna try it though.
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
Apparently Korea is wayy ahead of the West in terms of skin care. Real BB cream are Korean brands.
I haven't found my favorite bb cream yet but i've tried the following:
skin79 sampler ($10 for 4 small tubes):
pink label - good coverage, pinkish tones
gold label - good coverage, yellowish tones
diamond - a little sheerer but not bad, nicer texture though, goes on smoother i think
pearl - very sheer.
Full size skin79 tubes are pretty reasonably priced btw - like $8-9 or so (i forget the # of oz in that one though)
boscia bb cream (from sephora) - really nice texture... coverage a little sheer but not bad... too pricey.
Dr. Jart ( forget which one exactly, got sample @ sephora too) - liked it but wayyy too pricey and SPF too ridiculously high
BRTC Jasmine Water (ordered a 5-pack of samples off ebay) - excellent coverage. My skin looked really great, very natural. Tried it this past week. Am breaking out a bit today but it could be unrelated. I've been stressed this past wk too and not sleeping enough. Full size tube a little pricier than skin79 creams but much cheaper than western "bb cream".
Missha Signature Real Complete
Skin Food Good Afternoon Rose Lemon tea
Skin Food Platinum Grape Cell
Holika Holika Clearing Petit BB
I am also IN LOVE with the Skin Food Salmon undereye concealer (got on ebay a week ago and cant get enough of it--I finally dont have dark bags under my eyes! At least when it's on... ).
btw most of these i've gotten samples for like $2-3 on ebay. I wasn't going to pay full price for a tube until i found my favorite or at least tried it out against my skin. Everyone's skin is different, so you may like different ones from me.
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haven't tried it yet, but i want to. kind of broke atm unfortunately.
it was recommended to me by a Korean friend who said she got a Korean brand of it at H-mart (the Asian supermarket chain). she does not wear makeup, but she was going through a stressful period and started breaking out very badly, so she wore it to cover & heal the blemishes and redness. she says it's expensive but worth it.
thanks for the tips, @WorkaholicsAnon !
oh and i forgot to mention that yes BB cream is supposed to be like foundation, moisturizer, and primer in one, but skin-healing properties or something like that (depending on the particular one i guess). Some people just use bb cream for all of the above, but I find that it goes on smoother when i have a layer of light moisturizer on underneath (I love Trader Joe's SPF 15 facial moisturizer). I also tend to just apply bb cream to just my trouble areas so i do need spf for the other parts of my face. Your routine might be different. the other nice thing about bb cream is that i've found it blends really well to natural skin tone, even when it initially seems a little off, and even when it covers well, as long as you dont overapply it-- a little goes a long way. You just have to make sure that you get the "light" shade vs the "dark" shade depending on your skin color. Like if you're very fair, opt for the "light" shade. If you're a bit darker or olive skined, opt for the "dark". Sometimes a particular brand only has one shade. You would have to sample it to make sure it's compatible. (actually i recommend that for any of them because there are nuances in the coloring despite what i said above).
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I mean who wouldn't, seeing the actors' and actresses' flawless amazing skin
Also BB cream was mentioned in a couple of shows (City Hunter is one that immediately comes to mind)... "my mom told me to always use bb cream if i want to attract a good husband" lol
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Agree with what WA said about Korean > Western BB creams, and buying samples off eBay.
I've used Skin79 and Missha BB creams, I have a few SkinFood and Face Shop samples in my room that I've been meaning to try.
I actually did a blog post on BB creams a while back which I will start quoting verbatim... basically the main pro of a BB cream is that it combines sunscreen, moisturiser and foundation/concealer. In terms of coverage, they sit somewhere betweem full foundation and tinted moisturiser; however, unlike traditional makeup, they usually claim to improve your skin rather than clog it up. They often contain anti-irritant ingredients as well, so they tend to be good for sensitive skinned gals.
Additionally, some BB creams also contain antiwrinkle (adenosine), blemish-fading (arbutin), and anti-inflammatory (chamomile extract, beta-glucan) ingredients. Some BB creams also claim to minimise pores and control acne. The whitening ingredients tend to not be in a high enough concentration to properly whiten your face, so that's not a big worry.
The biggest drawback is that BB creams tend to only come in 2 or 3 shades - luckily, they tend to blend into your skin, so it's not a huge problem, but using a sample first is recommended. Additionally, since the Korean brands produce their BB creams for an Asian market which loves skin lightening as much as Western girls love their tanners and bronzers, the creams can sometimes look unnaturally light.
Also we need a girly things subforum hkkmr!
Also forgot to mention - you've probably worked out from MUA already that you only use a small amount and blend in with your fingers, it's not meant to be slapped on with a brush, and it needs to be removed properly each night with makeup remover or a good cleanser. I'm not sure what the retail prices of Missha etc are in the US, but here it's a lot cheaper to buy off eBay than go to a shop (about half price), but there are also some imitations online so make sure it's a highly rated seller, preferably from Korea, and there's an indication that it's a genuine/authentic/guaranteed product. I've accidentally bought a fake Missha BB cream before, they refunded my money though.
I've never even heard of BB Cream until about a week ago when I saw it on a commercial...well, now I'm interested. I'm getting really, incredibly bitter about my current makeup routine.
It's not a lot of makeup and I never look overly done, I just struggle like hell with dark circles, acne and allergy eyes (sexy, I know). I just see these women that wake up and look fabulous and I look like a damn trainwreck LOL.Wash face w/Saint Ives Apricot Scrub twice daily
-Cleanse w/ Stridex pads (at night)
-Apply Terminator Acne gel all over face (at night)
-Apply Neutrogena Healthy Skin Anti-Wrinkle Cream SPF 15 (in the morning--love this, omg)
-Put on an eye moisturizer/brightner followed by Mac Concealer to hide dark spots
-Apply Revlon Colorstay foundation
-Physicians formula powder / blush
- And finally, Maybelline Volum Express mascara (I've tried a million mascaras but always come back to this one for some reason--it's not that great, but ok)
Wow, that's pretty long!
I've heard that the Apricot Scrub is generally bad for most skin because it's too coarse and irritating. I have terrible dark circles but I've pretty much given up covering them, it just takes so damn long... if something comes on the market that actually works to fade them I will be all over it! I am the worst morning person, so if I can skip a morning makeup step via evening skincare, I'll do it.
My sister has pretty bad acne, I've given her a bottle of rose hip oil to try out (I got given way too many to review and now I don't think I'm going to finish them before they go off) - it's worked wonders for my skin and now I can go without BB cream most days (but I'm the type to never wear mascara because I'm lazy, so idk if I actually look acceptable...). If it works for her I'll let you know.
Yeah my skin can take a lot though and it never irritated it before so I dunno..I've found that exfoliating really helps control my breakouts. Now the only time I ever break out is when I fall asleep in makeup or it's pms time. Is my list really long? lol what is a normal routine? It's so exhausting...when a friend asks me out it's like UGH do i really want to do all of this? I think i just look old and dead without makeup. But i'm going to look into this BB cream stuff. Sounds interestng.
i do a lot of stuff too.. i didn't find Jessica's routine to be long at all... lol
i have sensitive skin and also struggle with acne. i'm perhaps irrationally skeptical of trying any kind of essential oil because i feel like it'll break me out.
Actually yeah, I'm sure if I list out my routine it'd be long as well haha... I guess it doesn't seem so long in my head because it's broken up over the day, and I try to do as little as possible in the morning...
Morning: splash water on face, blot dry with bath towel, and usually that's it... Kosmea Moisturising Lotion, Covergirl Lash Blast mascara, BB cream and powder if I look crap or I want to look nice that day, but laziness only loses out maybe once every 2 months haha
On the train (yeah, I'm one of those): bimatoprost (generic Latisse, if I remember), blush, lip stain, lip balm, eyeliner... I have this down to 3 minutes
Evening (in shower): makeup remover on eyes, then Neutrogena Foaming Cleanser, then Lush Angels on Bare Skin or DIY Clay Scrub or Kosmea Daily Facial Exfoliant (they're all pretty much the same), every second day or so Laneige Strawberry Yoghurt Peeling Gel <3
Night: 2% Paula's Choice BHA Exfoliant Liquid, rose hip oil, sometimes a moisturiser if I remember or if I'm trying something out, lip balm. If I have a bad pimple I steal my sister's ProActiv benzoyl peroxide.
I used to do a lot more, but then I got a boyfriend who barely notices when I put in effort beyond the above, and I found that my makeup was wrecking my skin (hence the BB cream love) and my skin seemed to prefer a really hands-off approach... as long as I keep feeding it rose hip oil it seems pretty happy.
I never really tried putting oil on my face except for tea tree oil and I didnt really notice much of a difference. You know, one thing I LOVE as an alternate to chemically overdone toners is Witch Hazel. Gosh it's been years since I've used it for some reason and forgot about it til i read this thread and thought about my old routines. It cleanses and tones and really minimizes the look of red spots quit dramatically. And just for contrast, I'd love to see a guys routine. It'd consist of like...3 things, if that.
Usually it's the actual identity of the oil, rather than the fact it's oil, that makes people break out - e.g. coconut oil is notoriously comedogenic, whereas pure mineral oil is amazingly non-comedogenic (example of a scale here: http://illumineat.wordpress.com/2011...edogenic-oils/).
There's a really great blog that I follow: http://gingerrrama.wordpress.com It's written by a girl with sensitive skin who's a regular on MUA, she's researched the crap out of all the things she uses, and usually ends up making her own irritant-free recipes. It's a fascinating read, it's a bit like a concentrated version of all those gems of wisdom you find every so often on MUA...
Anyway, yeah, my face is an oily mess, and adding more oil seems to be the way to go... all the blackheads are happily disappearing with rose hip oil, yay! Athough I'm sure it's to do with the vitamin A content rather than the oiliness, although the oiliness probably helps the blackheads slide out.
Hmm, that's interesting that oily skin responds well to more oil. Mine is very oily also and i would just feel like i was rubbing butter on my face if i put more oil on it,it would just feel wrong. Interesting.
It felt incredibly wrong when I first started doing it. The logic is that if you keep removing oil from your skin, your skin will go into overdrive thinking that it's not producing enough oil, but if you add more oil to your skin, sebum production will decrease accordingly to maintain skin oiliness after an adjustment period. Works great on my face, but my scalp refuses to listen to logic so whenever I try to wash my hair less than once a day everything goes crazy.
I'm currently using ETUDE HOUSE Precious Mineral BB cream (Sheer Silky Skin) which is suitable for oily skin, and I have just bought BB cream from Hanskin as I have read from reviews that Hanskin is very well-known for its range of BB cream and a lot of ladies in Korea swear by it. As for the technique of applying BB cream, unlike normal liquid foundation where you would usually dab it with a sponge and spread the foundation evenly on your face, you need to dot your face with spots of BB cream and pat it evenly throughout your face so that there is a smooth and even coverage.
Here's a video (which I have saved under my "Favorites") on how to apply BB cream:
In case you are considering looking around for BB creams to try, you could probably consider buying them from the english website of Gmarket (http://english.gmarket.co.kr/). It is like the Amazon website of Korea. I have friends who bought from that website and I heard from them that they could combine the shipping from various sellers. From the website, you can compare the prices of the same products from different sellers, and see which sellers are highly rated.
From what I'm told, BB creams are ideal for people who don't like makeup.
I've tested the Too Faced & Smashbox BB creams out at work, and I've found that I preferred the Too Faced one. They're very light & natural, and more of an ideal for the hot summer months. I've been using them on my clients for makeup applications (along with concealer), and they go on nicely. I've even sold a few from that. I have yet to buy one, though. I keep hearing that the Korean brands are much better, and have been thinking about trying some out.
Right now I've been trying to use up my tinted moisturizer. The summers are way too humid where I live, and we're having a heat stroke, so walking outside is basically like walking into a sauna. You start sweating immediately (and this is coming from someone who rarely sweats from the heat). I have really oily skin, so regular liquid foundations are basically a HELL NO... unless of course, I want to look like a cakey, greasy mess. I do liquid foundations during the winter, when the air is dryer.
Recently, I've been using bare minerals with a philosophy primer. I really love it for this kind of weather! Mineral makeup with a good primer never looks greasy, cakey, or heavy on me and it rarely melts off. It also has a very natural finish and it doesn't make you feel like you have a bunch of crap on your face. I've basically been using either mineral makeup, tinted moisturizer or BB creams on my clients. I don't want their face to melting off, either.
I know the pains of having oily skin, especially during these humid summers. I'm always blotting, even if I'm not wearing makeup. One thing that does help with oil production is taking a vitamin A every day. The good side to having oily skin is that you generally won't age as fast, provided you wear a good SPF on your face at all times. People still think I'm 19.
I want to start wearing a bit of make up again, atleast on special occasions where there are cameras . I've gone about a year-and-a-half make-up free. I love the natural look but I also love the even tone of foundation.. so this BB cream sounds perfect. I can't buy make-up off then net and I doubt BB cream or bare minerals is available where I live for under 3x the price..sooo I'll just have to settle for Avon smooth minerals. I'm taking self care a little more seriously now that my self-esteem has gone up abit.. I guess my vanity's back. I reckon their are 5 main "skin sins" and they all start with S in order of the most harmful: sun, smoking, sugar, (lack of) sleep, and stress. Heavy make up is pointless if taking enough care of yourself. Make-ups sole purpose is to make you appear more youthful & fertile.
@Starfall you're dead on about sun protection. I've been doing my own research on the harmful effects of sun exposure & how it accounts for 80% of skin ageing! I'm no longer letting the sun "rape" my porcelain skin I've stopped walking in the sun between 10am and 4pm. I'm a low type II, so I can only get a base tan anyway.. I've *tried* to get a tan in Summer but srsly how stupid of me to damage my skin in the hope of being "bronzed". I avoid UVB like the plague now, wearing spf too because of the unnoticable but deadly UVA rays. My skin has improved an immense amount in such a small time. It's much softer, and the tone is a lot more even. I'm not aaaassss upset when I look at my skin in public mirrors.. but then again overhead fluorescent lighting doesn't do anyone favours.
I saw your pics where you're holding the baby @dolphin, and you have such nice skin! I'm guessing you don't eat too much sugar or get much sun either? I'm not taking any sugar in my coffee anymore and I've cut back on chocolate... coupled with sun protection, I think it's going to make a big difference soon .
IMO, staying away from Smoking is one of the biggest things followed by the sun but I'll take a wrinkle or two when it comes to sunlight--I need it. I just wouldn't advise going to the beach everyday or tanning a ton. Right now, I've already started with the preventative measures to treat wrinkles...why wait til you see them?
Clinique moisturizing gel (for combo/oily skin) and salicylic acid cleanser and treatment. I wear makeup about once a week, so I remove my makeup with Philosophy Purity Made Simple and the Clarisonic brush (which also gives me that weekly exfoliation). I also do a sulfur mask about once a week. It's also a good idea to change/wash your pillow cases at least once a week.
And... I have no experience with BB Cream. I just do really light foundation coverage with a damp sponge.
Yeah cpig, cry because you want to get some BB cream to go with your manicure!
Re: sun - it breaks down collagen Apparently vitamin C serums are pretty good, and you can make them with tablets... anyone tried those? I would but I'm lazy
This is a really cool infographic about sun protection:
Oh, and I have a beauty blog with a science focus if anyone is interested
I wish dudes had makeup...it seems like such a cool thing. I wouldn't use much.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...