Radio Presents: Quadra Music (Thru The Ages)

**Radio** · 06-26-2012, 10:16 PM

*One album per artist/band.
*Major blind-spot from 70's to mid-80's. Seriously, not my favourite era.
*No metal, hip-hop or punk because I'm not well-versed in any of those genres.
*Chose exclusively critically acclaimed albums to reduce the amount of ensuing butthurt.
*NOT EXHAUSTIVE.

Alpha:

"Typical"[1] Alpha Genres: Progressive rock, psychedelic pop, math rock, shoegaze, progressive metal, japanoise, harsh noise, IDM, certain brand of pop music similar to of Montreal whatever it's called, early 90's indie rock, Pavement, Sabadoh et al.

Beta:

"Typical"[1] Beta Genres: 70's punk rock, glam rock, grunge, psychedelic rock, 90's hip hop, um drawing a blank.

Gamma:

"Typical"[1] Gamma Genres: post-hardcore, idk, gamma is still the most elusive quadra to me.

Delta:

"Typical"[1] Delta Music: bubble-gum pop, 90's indie pop, twee, singer-songwriter, folk pop, folk jazz, certain brands of punk, (and I guess if Absurd's taste is to be considered) Oi! et al.

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[1] Excludes "contemporary" music or very wide umbrella terms like "indie" or "pop". Also doesn't include styles (i.e. "electronic") but the themes, mood, etc. Stereotyped and exaggerated on purpose.

**Radio** · 06-26-2012, 10:17 PM

This is not finished and I don't intend on ever finishing it. My initial project was to have 25 albums for each quadra with pictures and shit but it took way more effort than I predicted and now I'm sick of it.

I would love it if someone expands on this, and adds more stuff (i.e. bands, albums, songs, w/e) or even provides constructive criticism/comments because that's always cool. I'm pretty sure I missed plenty of bands that others are more familiar with. Feel free to disagree with anything (or everything).

I purposely made use of what quadra stereotype I had in my mind and this is just my impression for each quadra in terms of musicians and pictures and whatever.
@Phthalate

**Galen** · 06-26-2012, 10:47 PM

fuck yeah jethro tull <3

Great stuff, I'll try to contribute too

**Phthalate** · 06-26-2012, 10:50 PM

I want to hump you dry...

SOOOO Hard.

**Pa3s** · 06-26-2012, 11:04 PM

Creedence Clearwater Revival is a Delta Band, imho.

**Galen** · 06-26-2012, 11:05 PM

Alpha

James Blunt

Neil Diamond

Beta

Arcade Fire

Garbage

Gamma

How could we forget Adele?

Suzanne Vega

Florence + The Machine (can only find pictures of Florence Welch but nobody else? w/e)

Delta

Esperanza Spalding

Bryan Adams

Imogen Heap

Coldplay
IMAGE NOT SHOWN FOR RADIO'S BENEFIT

**Radio** · 06-26-2012, 11:29 PM

I forgot to add captions to the original post, that was one of the things I was going to do. Well, whatever now, here's the people in the pictures.

Alpha:

The Beatles (Fe-ISFp, Ti-INTj, Fe-ISFp, Ti-ENFp, from left to right)
Stars (Torquil Campbell: Ti-ENTp, Amy Milan: Fe-ESFj)
Tom Waits (Ne-INTj)
My Bloody Valentine (Belinda Butcher: Ne-ENTp, Kevin Shields: Si-ISFp)
Bjork (Si-ISFp)
Beck (Si-ISFp)
Frank Zappa (Ne-INTj)
Rivers Cuomo (Ti-INTj) and his nerd posse (i.e. Weezer)
Pavement (Stephen Malkmus: some Alpha)
Sufjan Stevens (some Alpha)

Beta:

Miles Davis (some Beta)
Black Flag (Henry Rollins: Se-ESTp)
David Bowie (Ti-ESTp)
Jim Morrison (Ti-ESTp)
The Velvet Undergroud (Lou Reed: Se-ISTj)
Ian Curtis (Ni-INFp)
Nirvana (Kurt Cobain: Fe-INFp)
Soundgarden (Chris Cornell: Beta irrational, others are prolly betas as well)
The Who (beta in general)
Arcade Fire (Win Butler: Ni-INFp)
Dresden Dolls (Amanda Palmer: Ni-ENFj, the dude ISTj or something)

Gamma:

John Coltrane (??-ENTj)
Bob Dylan (Se-ISFj)
Jimi Hendrix (Gamma introvert)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor (Efrim Menuck: Ni-INTp, not sure about rest but prolly somewhere around that)
Elvis Presley (Fi-ESFp)
Kanye West (Fi-ESFp)
Elly Jackson (Ni-INTp)

Delta:

Jethro Tull (Ian Anderson: Te-ESTj)
Eels (E: Ne-INFj)
Gorillaz (Damon Albarn: ??-ESTj)
Iron & Wine (Sam Beam: Si-ISTp)
Gotye (Fi-ENFp)
Joni Mitchel (Fi-INFj)
Ian Anderson again
Elton John (Fi-ENFp)
The Mountain Goats (John Darnielle: Ne-ENFp)
Neutral Milk Hotel (Jeff Mangum: ??-INFj, Julian Koster: Ne-INFj, their producer not in picture Rob Schneider: Ne-ENFp)
Belle and Sebastian (Stuart Murdoch: Te-ISTp)

**redbaron** · 06-26-2012, 11:48 PM

omg really? is David Bowie really SLE? I never heard that before and for some reason I was thinking he's ESI but the weird thing is that I have been in love with him FOREVER. I own all the biographies of him and tapes of all his albums. (tapes, yes, cassette tapes, I'm that old)

Also, I never really understood what people saw in Elvis? Never cared for him. (okay, granted, I wasn't alive in the 50s or 60s but still)

By these lists, I'm alpha/beta all the way.

**stray** · 06-27-2012, 12:02 AM

I'd like to think that I could pick up my guitar right now and thoughtlessly churn out 10 songs better than any of the Delta folk shit posted here (except CCR. They're cool).

That's my contribution.

**Galen** · 06-27-2012, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by stray

I'd like to think that I could pick up my guitar right now and thoughtlessly churn out 10 songs better than any of the Delta folk shit posted here (except CCR. They're cool).

That's my contribution.

Do it.

**stray** · 06-27-2012, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Galen

Do it.

I do it everyday.

I'm not even an arrogant musician, but goddamn.. can you guys post anything with balls to it? None of this rocks at all. It's like both you and Radio just have this thing for bearded guys who look like the Brawny paper towel dude. So you type them Delta ST.

**Galen** · 06-27-2012, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by stray

I do it everyday.

Care to show? If you have good music to share I would like to hear.

Originally Posted by stray

I'm not even an arrogant musician,

And we're off to a good start.

Originally Posted by stray

but goddamn.. can you guys post anything with balls to it? None of this rocks at all.

Do it.

Originally Posted by stray

It's like both you and Radio just have this thing for bearded guys who look like the Brawny paper towel dude. So you type them Delta ST.

I think you'll find I posted one person with a beard, and I didn't even type him Delta. Try again.

**stray** · 06-27-2012, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Galen

Care to show?

No I don't. Music is just my therapy. What I perform isn't the point. It's what I like. And I'm just looking for something that slightly resonates. In this thread and others, you guys keep posting music I've laughed at since I was a kid.

Oh, and I haven't even mentioned Disney yet. Delta is either rednecks or kid's shows it seems.

**Galen** · 06-27-2012, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by stray

And I'm just looking for something that slightly resonates. In this thread and others, you guys keep posting music I've laughed at since I was a kid.

then uh

DO IT

**Pa3s** · 06-27-2012, 12:51 AM

Well dude, saying you could do better than the artists posted here without much effort and not showing anything of it is a bit weak. If you don't want to share it, fine, but don't make such claims then.

**stray** · 06-27-2012, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Galen

then uh

DO IT

The only thing I might do is retype. You fags cramp my style. No wonder why people think this quadra is so boring.

**Galen** · 06-27-2012, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by stray

The only thing I might do is retype. You fags cramp my style. No wonder why people think this quadra is so boring.

cool projection bro

Stop complaining if you're not going to do anything about it

Creepy-pokeball · 06-27-2012, 01:11 AM

LA Roux is Alpha (ENTp 6w7) and I do not believe David Bowie to be Beta. Believe it or not, I believe he is Delta. I also believe Nirvana was mostly Delta, too. The rest seems mostly cohesive.

**PistolShrimp** · 06-27-2012, 01:14 AM

Great list! A few I'd add off the top of my head are:

Alpha:
Andrew Bird (LII)

They Might Be Giants

Beta:
Red Hot Chili Peppers

Die Antwoord (Yolandi is IEI, Ninja is probably SLE or maybe ILE)

Gamma:
Siouxsie and the Banshees (Siouxsie is LIE?)

**stray** · 06-27-2012, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Galen

cool projection bro

Stop complaining if you're not going to do anything about it

Are you expecting me to perform on cue or something?

Granted, my only rebuttal is to call you a fag. Not much better. I know that.

The truth is I get annoyed with all quadra discussion. That this is about music is more annoying. The individual is lost in all of it. You don't know me, nor will I perform so you can find out. But I assure you, I'm not white, have a beard, play folk music, or like Disney movies. And if it's "Ne" and Fi thing to generalize people on these levels, then fuck Deltas for that too.

**Galen** · 06-27-2012, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by stray

Are you expecting me to perform on cue or something?

I'm expecting you to post music you think fits with the subject at hand, or talk about who you think is mistyped. You know, something constructive to the topic at hand instead of idly complaining about it.

Originally Posted by stray

Granted, my only rebuttal is to call you a fag. Not much better. I know that.

oh hoh hoh someone's full of pent up angst this evening

Originally Posted by stray

The truth is I get annoyed with all quadra discussion. That this is about music is more annoying. The individual is lost in all of it. You don't know me, nor will I perform so you can find out.

Of course these are all generalizations and impressions; I don't think Radio or I are trying to say that every person in each quadra will identify with whatever image the bands posted are putting forth.

Originally Posted by stray

But I assure you, I'm not white, have a beard, play folk music, or like Disney movies.

Okay. So?

Originally Posted by stray

And if it's "Ne" and Fi thing to generalize people on these levels, then fuck Deltas for that too.

Nobody here is making that claim.

you e6 is showing, might wanna get that looked at

**Raver** · 06-27-2012, 07:23 AM

Interesting thread Radio. Not familiar with most of the delta bands you posted, but I'm a fan of Gorillaz and Neutral Milk Hotel. I never knew Gorillaz was delta, but they are one of my favorite bands. Demon Days is an incredible album and Neutral Milk Hotel has some great songs.

**Hays** · 06-27-2012, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by stray

The truth is I get annoyed with all quadra discussion. That this is about music is more annoying. The individual is lost in all of it. You don't know me, nor will I perform so you can find out. But I assure you, I'm not white, have a beard, play folk music, or like Disney movies. And if it's "Ne" and Fi thing to generalize people on these levels, then fuck Deltas for that too.

I kind of relate to what you are saying here about Delta making these generalizations that I sometimes think are just off especially with all the Disney talk and cookie jokes:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post877353

**Radio** · 06-27-2012, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Jadae2point0

LA Roux is Alpha (ENTp 6w7) and I do not believe David Bowie to be Beta. Believe it or not, I believe he is Delta. I also believe Nirvana was mostly Delta, too.

interesting! which delta do you think bowie is?

Originally Posted by octo

There are a few I disagree with, in particular of Montreal (arguably the whole project is 99% Kevin Barnes, and imo he's beta NF par excellence... I guess some of the other members are probably Alpha, but Skeletal Lamping is like a beta NF wet dream, gratuitious literary references everywhere, and the whole Georgie Fruit deal)

that's what I initially suspected as well but now I think maybe he's Si-ISFp. His earlier stuff with Elephant 6 is a lot more Ne-ish; The Gay Parade, Coquelicot Asleep in the Poppies, etc. either he went thru a type change after releasing Satanic Panic in the Attic or he's just overdosing on Fe and Ne. also stuff like this persuade me away from beta, and more towards alpha:

i mean you can see bowie glamming it up (assuming he's beta) but it never veers into self-parody. i think betas are generally more wary of that.

Originally Posted by octo

and Damon Albarn (alpha? - too Fe-valuing and open to gender bending/bisexual explorations to be LSE, much more obvious in early Blur but I think he's gotten a lot more sober and sensible in middle age, which might be why he seems a bit delta now...).

heh i don't know which alpha he would be, my impression from interviews was EXTx, sensing, Ne/Si valuing. Doesn't seem spacey enough to be ENTp, to me.

Creepy-pokeball · 06-27-2012, 09:41 AM

My feeling is that he is something unusual, like ENFp 9w1 or something... He seems like a positivist in Etype, and he seems to play out conceptual states rather than live in them completely. I recall him referring to his statge presence as an alter-ego and not him.

**silke** · 06-27-2012, 06:29 PM

these ones are mostly 90s-00s

Alpha - 13 and God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THTLAAz8lsY

Alpha - Mother Mother
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50LShhlkTfw

Alpha - The Qemists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1krmAcCdZ_Y

Alpha - M.I.A.: ISFp sx/so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yuqxl284cg

Alpha - Andrew Bird (INTj) was already mentioned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U7xpGi5SsU

Beta - Bliss N Eso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkkpRE660Ls

Beta - 10 Years, their lead vocalist (the guy in the center) is likely INFp 1w2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPXUeeFXc90

Beta - Stanton Warriors, most other people who have linked me their remixes have been betas so I guess there is something to it, breakbeat does fit with beta theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5_qSX_3P8s

Beta - Asa: finnish rap/hip hop, no idea what the lyrics say but overall it sounds beta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV55HduEOKw

Beta - all of Bill Leeb's (Se-ISTj) projects - Front Line Assembly, Delerium, Noise Unit, Intermix, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvCVv1GmXpw

moar Beta - 30 seconds to mars, The Smiths, Johnny Cash, Tori Amos, PJ Harvey, Pink

either Beta or Gamma - Death in Vegas, music is in NiSe style and their main dude, Richard Fearless, looks like a decisive quadra introvert.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97wDWmqGmPA

Gamma - Incubus: Brandon Boyd - Fi-ISFj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8295rOMvtQI

Mixed Delta-Gamma - Hybrid: their main dude Mike Truman's type is Te-ISTp, their new vocalist Charlotte James is Se-ISFj and Chris - ExTj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b333P57E9Wc

Delta - Foster the People: Mark Foster - ENFp, Fink is also in judicious quadra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTZ7iX4vTQ

Delta - Imogen Heap, ENFp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKZsZkH_MJc

some of the older 60s-70s bands that I would like to get typed but haven't had the time yet

Three Dog Night
Genesis
Uriah Heep

**Pa3s** · 06-27-2012, 06:38 PM

How do you see Rage Against The Machine quadra-wise?

**fen** · 06-27-2012, 08:12 PM

-Alpha-
The Killers

Passion Pit

-Gamma-
Crystal Castles

-Delta-
Now, Now

Of Monsters and Men

* We Were Promised Jetpacks

A Silent Film

Band of Horses

* The Lonely Forest

* - Judicious quadra. Placed in Delta by gut reaction, but not sure if Alpha/Delta.

**HERO** · 09-27-2012, 11:43 AM

- Jorane (Beta/IEI-Fe)

D minor (Scorpio)

- Pixies (?)

G minor (Gemini)

**fen** · 09-28-2012, 09:28 PM

*breathes life into thread*

**Azure Flame** · 09-29-2012, 01:25 AM

Probably not the best I can do to show the contrasts but, whatever fuckit here you go.

ALPHA
Sphongle

BETA
Vast

GAMMA
Type o negative

DELTA
uhh, sigur ros?

**Azure Flame** · 09-29-2012, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by Jadae2point0

LA Roux is Alpha (ENTp 6w7) and I do not believe David Bowie to be Beta. Believe it or not, I believe he is Delta. I also believe Nirvana was mostly Delta, too. The rest seems mostly cohesive.

I'd agree with david bowie. But not with nirvana.

**Korpsy Knievel** · 09-29-2012, 07:55 PM

Fuck "no metal". Each band has an accompanying song and interview.

Alpha: Fates Warning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlCt8lda91c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg4YEVhpR0w

Beta: Queensryche

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c3g6tTYoxM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHmq36EQCF4

Gamma: Down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuuLva2C718
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buEUJ-Mnvhg

Delta: Mono

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuNaByukcNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdSeW_3Sp44

**Absurd** · 09-29-2012, 09:21 PM

**HERO** · 10-11-2012, 06:49 AM

Alanis Morissette (Delta/IEE-Fi):

G Major (Gemini)

Kathleen Edwards (?)

Bb minor (Pisces)

A lot of her songs are like stories too. She really gets into the psychology of at least one of the characters or the narrator, emotionally... I can't think of too many singer/song-writers that do that the same way. She really captures something in a lot of her songs. The song I shared is not necessarily her best or most moving song or whatever, so I don't know if you'd get the idea regarding her strengths....

**Scapegrace** · 10-11-2012, 07:11 AM

This is probably a better example of what Kathleen Edwards does. I really liked Asking for Flowers, but I'm not totally fond of her other albums.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=q9Zkqotzqx0

These girls are the same quadra.

Canadian. No actually I think they are.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zj2ku5wxWVQ

**suedehead** · 03-18-2014, 12:28 AM

The Arcade Fire strikes me as more..static.

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