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    "All of the art that I love is about peeling back layers, and delving into something that's in a subconscious or dream realm. People like Jan Svankmajer, or the artist Yoshimoto Nara, or David Lynch. You live your everyday life, but then there's also thoughts, feelings, energies you get from other people, ghosts, ancestors and the path you're on... all of those spiritual things that are deeper in the mind than what is just in front of you."

    "I'm not religious, but what interests me is that when people are religious, they need to be able to suspend their disbelief in order to believe in fables and stories. There's an element of naivety there that they need to keep. What I learnt from that has to do with storytelling, being able to escape into other worlds, or feeling emotionally connected to worlds that are symbolic or outside of normal human experience."





    She makes weird spacey goth-pop music. I'm not a huge fan but she's really intelligent and, if not anything else, an original.

    My impression of her is a bit muddled and I can't seem to settle on her type. The one recurring typing in my mind is Fi-ESFp, I'm not sure why. Alhough, maybe any Fi ego could work just as well. She reminds me a bit of @lungs in a way.

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    I only really know her for her song what's a girl to do which slayed me when I was with my ex. mostly her music slides past my ears without catching, but I think she's got an interesting thing going on regardless. anyway, the more you know.

    vi-wise I can see where esfp is coming from. idk though but now I'm curious because the comparison doesn't seem unreasonable

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    She seems reasonably Fi-ESFp to me, has the same sort of rambleyness that SEEs tend to have. Seems fairly Dolphin-ey as well, maybe a touch of Lily Allen in there as well (also seems ESFp to me). Too bad her music isn't great :/
    "And above all, watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you because the greatest secrets are always hidden in the most unlikely places. Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." -Roald Dahl

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    ISFP
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    SEE-Fi make sense for her

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    C'mom! Look her lyrics! She's is ALPHA, A ISFP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeLNuQdfcQw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    ISFP
    DO YOU CONSIDER: YOU CAN NOT MISTAKE?
    DO YOU CONSIDER: YOU CAN NOT MISTAKE?
    (You words - doesn't matter. The matter is - your deeds)
    Anyone who would dare argue with me should be able to pass the test on the basis of Socionics. Otherwise, he will be recognized as a boor.
    Remember: NO CONVERGENCE - NO SCIENCE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaaroslav View Post
    DO YOU CONSIDER: YOU CAN NOT MISTAKE?
     
    DO YOU CONSIDER: I WILL FLY TO WHATEVER GODFORSAKEN HOVEL IN RUSSIA KEEPS THE SNOW OFF YOUR MANGY HEAD AND BEAT YOUR FACE WITH A PRINTED TRANSCRIPT OF YOUR IDIOCY UNTIL YOU LEARN ENGLISH, SHUT THE FUCK UP, OR DIE
    Last edited by mu4; 07-16-2012 at 04:43 AM. Reason: spoilering
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    ^ lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    ISFp. That music video is as strong of visualization and concentration of Si you will ever get.
    She walks in comfortable clothes, at times hugging herself. Some abstract things she apparently doesn't see are interacting with her body. The environment and snapshots of composition of objects is an image of dirty/broken/uncomfortable.

    Song is full of Si also:
    Run in the dark - More bodily senses than sight are heightened.

    "The smell of cinders and rain
    Perfumed almost everything"

    Under a sheet of rain in my heart

    But in a goodbye bed
    With my arms around your neck

    I dream of home - comfort of home as highest value.

    All lines about fire in the heart sounds like Fe to me. Though it was her expressions in interview that convinced me that she is Fe ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esaman View Post
    ...
    Interesting. Those are the very things that made me think Se, rather than Si. The descriptions sound more static > dynamic to me. For comparison, here's a song by Bjork, a commonly accepted Si-ISFp:



    Quote Originally Posted by Moon by Bjork
    As the lukewarm hands of the gods
    Came down and gently picked my adrenaline pearls
    They placed them in their mouths
    And rinsed all of the fear out
    Nourished them with their saliva

    [dynamic, actions, direction]

    Now I'm all rejuvenated and rested
    Now I'm all rejuvenated and rested

    As if the healthiest past-time
    Is being in life-threatening circumstances
    And once again be reborn
    Compare to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel by Bat for Lashes
    And under wild blue skies
    Marble movie skies
    I found a home in your eyes
    We'll never be apart

    And when the fires came
    The smell of cinders and rain
    Perfumed almost everything
    We laughed and laughed and laughed

    [static, descriptive, images]

    And in the golden blue
    Crying took me to
    The darkest place you knew
    And set fire to my heart
    When I read the lyrics to the first song, there's a sense of movement, direction, momentum, things building up towards a certain end; in the second, I hear snapshots, elaborate images, static descriptions of what is. I would sooner think ENFp > ISFp but ESFp fits the best IMO.

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    Taking an extreme example of active Si and judging anything less active and more descriptive as not Si is a folly. It is the sensual + interactive quality that makes something Si.

    "The smell of cinders and rain
    Perfumed almost everything" - that can be argued to be active and interaction

    "And under wild blue skies
    Marble movie skies"

    - yes, that is static. But common, it is absurd to deny Si artist the use of all kind of images.

    * That would make the art one sided, extreme (Bjork)
    * All people have some appreciation of static beauty
    * Static images can be experienced and meant to be experienced interactively/relationally/dynamically/ in Si way.

    For example in the video there are practically still images of burned and wet objects - interactive/dynamic quality of being uncomfortable to touch.
    An image of burned chair with some charred shit occupying it. - I am quite sure that it is meant to imbued a sense of how something that is supposed to be interactively comfortable very much isn't.

    There is no arguing that the central piece of video (her with the shadows) cannot be any more dynamical.
    The song is full of sensual + interactive lines and ISFp values even if there are some things that can judged static.
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    Okay then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    DO YOU CONSIDER: I WILL FLY TO WHATEVER GODFORSAKEN HOVEL IN RUSSIA KEEPS THE SNOW OFF YOUR MANGY HEAD AND BEAT YOUR FACE WITH A PRINTED TRANSCRIPT OF YOUR IDIOCY UNTIL YOU LEARN ENGLISH, SHUT THE FUCK UP, OR DIE
    I SEE: YOU LIKE MY POSTS
    DO YOU CONSIDER: YOU CAN NOT MISTAKE?
    (You words - doesn't matter. The matter is - your deeds)
    Anyone who would dare argue with me should be able to pass the test on the basis of Socionics. Otherwise, he will be recognized as a boor.
    Remember: NO CONVERGENCE - NO SCIENCE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaaroslav View Post
    I SEE: YOU LIKE MY POSTS
    Seriously though, you should see yourself to an english language school.
    Looking for an Archnemesis. Willing applicants contact via PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Ssmall View Post
    Seriously though, you should see yourself to an english language school.
    pwned by a real bilingual slav
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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